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From Warren Sharp.

He just posted his secondary rankings and the Bears come in at #4. He had the Bears WR Corps at #3, the O-Line at #12 and the Front Seven at #21. So the average of those 4 units is #10. So I don't know what you think of Caleb Williams, the Bears RBs, Santos and Taylor, but they are all at least top half of the league. So saying the Bears have a top 10 roster is not a stretch at all.

The Bears also have the 3rd easiest schedule. So if you have the #10 roster and are playing the 3rd easiest schedule, that has to make you a top 8 team right? It is just simple math. That is a 10-11 win team. 

So projections having the Bears with double digit wins is not that far fetched.

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2 hours ago, adam said:

The Bears also have the 3rd easiest schedule. So if you have the #10 roster and are playing the 3rd easiest schedule, that has to make you a top 8 team right? It is just simple math.

It's difficult to believe (and painful to remember) that just two years ago before Poles began transforming the team, we were considered to have one of the worst roster of players in the league. We were laughed at, and unfortunately, rightfully so. What a difference with Poles as our GM! 

 

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41 minutes ago, Pixote said:

It's difficult to believe (and painful to remember) that just two years ago before Poles began transforming the team, we were considered to have one of the worst roster of players in the league. We were laughed at, and unfortunately, rightfully so. What a difference with Poles as our GM! 

 

It still is hard to believe because if you really look at the entire 53-man, this may be the most talented group top to bottom since 2006 or as far back as 85 or 87.

Here are the last 3 seasons when the offense and defense ranked in the top 10 in scoring:

2018 had the #9 scoring offense and #1 scoring defense. They had Trubisky at QB though so it almost takes this year out already, and the leading WR was Taylor Gabriel. Jordan Howard was the RB1 and Trey Burton was TE1. Gabriel would be WR4 or 5 on this roster. Howard may be RB3, and Burton (who never lived up to potential) is probably TE3. The D-Line (DTs and Edge) is better in 2018, but that's it. Edge - 2024.

2006 had the #2 scoring offense and #3 scoring defense, but again, Grossman at QB. Muhammad at WR1, Berrian at WR2. Nowhere near Moore and Allen. The defense was stacked but I like the current secondary better. The 2006 DBs had Danieal Manning at FS and Ricky Manning at CB2. The 2006 DL was definitely better with Anderson, Brown, Ogunleye, Harris and Tank Johnson. 5 deep. Then Urlacher and Briggs at LB. Overall, the defense still better in 2006, but offense better in 2024. However, when you go to subs, 2024 wins. Sanborn is LB3, Terrell Smith is CB4, Owens is S3, Pickens is DT3, and Booker or Walker are Edge3. So the 2024 depth is better. Edge - 2024.

In 1987, The Bears had the 9th highest scoring offense and 4th highest scoring defense. Payton was 34 yrs old and was outrushed by Neal Anderson. McMahon only played 6 games. The leading WR was Gault with 35 receptions, McKinnon was 2nd with 27. Emery Moorehead at age 33 had 24 receptions to lead TEs. The 2024 offense is much better on paper right now. The defense in 1987 was still elite with Marshall, Dent, Singletary, McMichael, Perry, Wilson, Hampton, Duerson, Gayle, and Bell. The 1987 defense has the edge, but the current secondary is probably better as the CBs were not good in 1987. Considering the declining offense, 2024 looks to have the edge here too. 

So you really have to go back to 1985 when the Bears had the #2 offense and #1 defense to find a team, on paper, top to bottom with the quality of players compared to this 53-man roster. Obviously 1985 is the gold standard when it comes to complete teams, but that was only 3 teams in between that really stack up to the current roster.

Am I crazy or is that a valid observation?

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Pixote said:

It's difficult to believe (and painful to remember) that just two years ago before Poles began transforming the team, we were considered to have one of the worst roster of players in the league. We were laughed at, and unfortunately, rightfully so. What a difference with Poles as our GM! 

 

before its over theres gonna be a Poles statue in front of Soldier Field.

And a Kevin Warren statue in front of the stadium in Arlington heights where we play LOL

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