BearFan PHX Posted October 21 Report Share Posted October 21 3 hours ago, adam said: Mahomes 6 TD, 8 INT this season so far. Hmmm, almost like not having elite skill position players matters. No Pacheco, no Hill, no Rice, Kelce over the hill, and no other reliable WR. everything matters, but in the end, its all about the QB. He's got 6TDs, 8 INTs, and they are 6-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted October 21 Report Share Posted October 21 Stats can be misleading, Mahomes hasnt played well yet the Chiefs are 6-0, they have a great coach and good defense , everything matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 21 Author Report Share Posted October 21 On 10/21/2024 at 6:10 AM, Stinger226 said: Stats can be misleading, Mahomes hasnt played well yet the Chiefs are 6-0, they have a great coach and good defense , everything matters. KC gets a ton of RAW though. No team gets as much as they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted October 21 Report Share Posted October 21 Mahomes is the reason they win, despite how his stats look. Another case of how stats dont really tell the story, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 24 Author Report Share Posted October 24 Super cool article about Williams, one of the better reads with videos that I have seen so far. Nate Tice did a great job putting this together: https://sports.yahoo.com/football-301-playbook-this-is-the-caleb-williams-weve-been-waiting-for-175701617.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 24 Author Report Share Posted October 24 On 10/21/2024 at 11:38 AM, BearFan PHX said: Mahomes is the reason they win, despite how his stats look. Another case of how stats dont really tell the story, Mahomes gets a ton of Ref Assisted Wins (RAW) though. That run on the sideline was complete BS. 3 defenders scared to touch him on the sideline, he sidesteps one and runs for 30+ yards for the winning TD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted October 24 Report Share Posted October 24 47 minutes ago, adam said: Super cool article about Williams, one of the better reads with videos that I have seen so far. Nate Tice did a great job putting this together: https://sports.yahoo.com/football-301-playbook-this-is-the-caleb-williams-weve-been-waiting-for-175701617.html this is the best rebuttal of the old "Caleb doesnt play in structure" narrative I've ever seen. Everyone here is on board now, but you still hear some writers claiming it. It's funny how a story starts and then it becomes truth just because a bunch of writers repeat each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 24 Author Report Share Posted October 24 6 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said: this is the best rebuttal of the old "Caleb doesnt play in structure" narrative I've ever seen. Everyone here is on board now, but you still hear some writers claiming it. It's funny how a story starts and then it becomes truth just because a bunch of writers repeat each other. Caleb is already on QB 401 as a rookie, which is insane. He is still going to have bumps along the way, but we finally got one. It is still hard to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted October 24 Report Share Posted October 24 18 minutes ago, adam said: Caleb is already on QB 401 as a rookie, which is insane. He is still going to have bumps along the way, but we finally got one. It is still hard to believe. imagine where he will be in 2 years. It's a good time to be a Bears fan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted October 25 Report Share Posted October 25 8 hours ago, adam said: Super cool article about Williams, one of the better reads with videos that I have seen so far. Nate Tice did a great job putting this together: https://sports.yahoo.com/football-301-playbook-this-is-the-caleb-williams-weve-been-waiting-for-175701617.html There was some f'n fire in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 25 Author Report Share Posted October 25 12 hours ago, BearFan PHX said: imagine where he will be in 2 years. It's a good time to be a Bears fan! Yeah man, I am pumped, Bears fans have been thru so many years of mediocre QB play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 25 Author Report Share Posted October 25 5 hours ago, AZ54 said: There was some f'n fire in there. Yeah there is, and Nate Tice is not a homer by any means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted October 25 Report Share Posted October 25 11 hours ago, AZ54 said: There was some f'n fire in there. lol AZShelton Fire! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 25 Author Report Share Posted October 25 Awesome review by Gruden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted October 25 Report Share Posted October 25 Caleb needs to average 245 yards per game passing for the rest of the season to reach 4,000 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 25 Author Report Share Posted October 25 5 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said: Caleb needs to average 245 yards per game passing for the rest of the season to reach 4,000 yards. I am assuming he will have at least 2x more 300-yd games. If he does that, he can throw for 226 in 6 others and still be on pace. Like one monster game will make it pretty easy to obtain. If he throws for 350 in one game, then he can go 230 in the rest and hit it. That is how Stroud did it. He had a couple of monster games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted October 25 Report Share Posted October 25 1 hour ago, adam said: I am assuming he will have at least 2x more 300-yd games. If he does that, he can throw for 226 in 6 others and still be on pace. Like one monster game will make it pretty easy to obtain. If he throws for 350 in one game, then he can go 230 in the rest and hit it. That is how Stroud did it. He had a couple of monster games. yup - of course the schedule gets tougher, and he may fall short of 4k, but who is gonna cry if we get 3,800 yards? Not me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 25 Author Report Share Posted October 25 1 hour ago, BearFan PHX said: yup - of course the schedule gets tougher, and he may fall short of 4k, but who is gonna cry if we get 3,800 yards? Not me. If he breaks 3,838 for the team record, that would be the 5th highest yards for rookie QB in NFL history: 1. Luck - 4374 2. Herbert - 4336 3. Stroud - 4108 4. Newton - 4051 5. Winston - 4042 6. Mac Jones - 3801 7. Wentz - 3782 8. Manning - 3739 9. Mayfield - 3725 10. Murray - 3722 22 Passing TDs would be top 10 all-time, 24 would be 4th. So something like 3,900 and 25 TDs would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 30 Author Report Share Posted October 30 Thru 7 games, Caleb now at 1,448 passing yards. That puts him on pace for 3,516 yards with 22 TDs, 12 INTs, and 510 Rushing Yards. To break Erik Kramer's team record, he would need to average 239 yards per game here on out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted October 30 Report Share Posted October 30 6 hours ago, adam said: Thru 7 games, Caleb now at 1,448 passing yards. That puts him on pace for 3,516 yards with 22 TDs, 12 INTs, and 510 Rushing Yards. To break Erik Kramer's team record, he would need to average 239 yards per game here on out. Lots of hand wringing over the coaches. I’m far more concerned Williams is a mental midget like Trubisky was and plays worse the brighter the lights are. FWIW Jayden Daniel’s didn’t impress me either as he looked lost on most of his drop backs too. Now in fairness I did miss about 1/2 the game off and on throughout the broadcast. Finding a good coach is easier than finding a good QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted October 30 Report Share Posted October 30 34 minutes ago, AZ54 said: Lots of hand wringing over the coaches. I’m far more concerned Williams is a mental midget like Trubisky was and plays worse the brighter the lights are. FWIW Jayden Daniel’s didn’t impress me either as he looked lost on most of his drop backs too. Now in fairness I did miss about 1/2 the game off and on throughout the broadcast. Finding a good coach is easier than finding a good QB. no doubt finding a good QB is the hardest. I also agree on your analysis of both QBs in that game. I think CW is learning to process though. games 4-6 were a huge improvement over 1-3, especially against the blitz, so he is showing that hes learning and reading. I think Washington did an excellent job of showing some really advanced looks and confusing Caleb. They basically dared him to beat them with the long ball, and dropped into unconventional looks underneath. And it worked. Caleb will see everything over the season, and hopefully he can learn to adjust. But everything ive seen from him so far says he is smart and processes well. I do think a real concern about him is long ball accuracy. That's something we've seen lacking even in his college film. And you have to be able to punish defenses in every way that they slack on anything in order to be stronger on something else. Hopefully Caleb clears that up. But I dont think he is bad at processing, I just think he came up against a really good defensive plan, and this is part of his rookie growing experiences. At least you can say he has that winner thing since he basically took an offense that wasn't working, and drove the field to win the game twice in the last 10 minutes. But in that game, yes, everything you said is true for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 30 Author Report Share Posted October 30 This Twitter thread is great for understanding what is going on with the offense. Quinten feels like the Bears are not using the McVay system that Waldron came from, but are actually using the NE model based on what he is seeing Caleb do at the line. He could be wrong, but it would make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted October 31 Report Share Posted October 31 4 hours ago, adam said: This Twitter thread is great for understanding what is going on with the offense. That was a great read, and the article linked in the tweet too. Thanks for posting it. I admit some of it goes over my head, for example, I understand the point of calling a 'play' as opposed to calling all the parts, because if people understand the whole play, then you can swap receivers around, or replace them with tight ends or backs and the concept of the play is still known to everyone. that sounds smart. But then he says you dont need specific players to run the offense, and Im not really sure what that means. no matter the concept, or what you call it, lesser players dont make more plays because of how you titled the play? You dont hand the ball to Kramer no matter what you call it Either way, it did make the reader think about all the complexities of calling any play in the NFL and give me more sympathy for Caleb and how much he has to grow. No matter what system they are running, Caleb is still seeing more new defenses than ever, and he has to face them, and then go process film so it's clearer the next time he sees it. I'm sure for example that he's know how certain route concepts work against standard defenses like cover 2, cover 3, man under etc. That's probably been comfortable for him since early in college. But now, defenses are disguising their looks, and playing exotic defenses to confuse him. Exotic defenses have inherent weaknesses, they arent fully sound, and when Caleb can see it, he will punish them for it. This past week, it took him a while to digest what he was seeing. It didnt stop him as a winner from driving the team down the field to win the game twice for us though! I personally wonder if the OL was doing a better job, how much quicker the offense could find the rhythm? Whatever the offense, they have to do a better job of teaching the blocking assignments or rules to the players. And it's kinda clear, we need some more players too. All good stuff to think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted October 31 Report Share Posted October 31 1 hour ago, BearFan PHX said: I personally wonder if the OL was doing a better job, how much quicker the offense could find the rhythm? We need a Trent Williams attitude infusion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted October 31 Report Share Posted October 31 15 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said: We need a Trent Williams attitude infusion... I would not argue with that at all. He might be too old, but if we can get players with that kind of attitude, I'm ALL for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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