OmahaBear Posted November 14 Report Share Posted November 14 I don't much about the guy or if he will be any better.. but I did like his press conference.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted November 14 Report Share Posted November 14 He has 8 games to get something going. It beats leaving Waldrom running the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted November 14 Report Share Posted November 14 He was bad as the Panthers OC last year, but they had terrible players. He made a 30 yr old Thielen into a 1K WR, so he can obviously scheme guys open. The scary thing is he was already the Passing Game Coordinator and that seemed like a total mess. Maybe it was all Waldron. We will see, but it is hard to see how they take the plays that don't work, then somehow change them to work, and have the players in sync with these new plays. It will be interesting, but I would be shocked at a major turnaround at this point. Any improvement is better than nothing, but when you are this bad, almost anything will look like a positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted November 14 Report Share Posted November 14 55 minutes ago, adam said: He was bad as the Panthers OC last year, but they had terrible players. He made a 30 yr old Thielen into a 1K WR, so he can obviously scheme guys open. The scary thing is he was already the Passing Game Coordinator and that seemed like a total mess. Maybe it was all Waldron. We will see, but it is hard to see how they take the plays that don't work, then somehow change them to work, and have the players in sync with these new plays. It will be interesting, but I would be shocked at a major turnaround at this point. Any improvement is better than nothing, but when you are this bad, almost anything will look like a positive. One thing I heard is that he'll be in the booth. I believe that the best place for an OC. They get a better field view and don't have to deal with the emotion/chaos of the sideline, plus their assistants are easier to converse with in the booth. Sometimes adjustments and creativity come from collaboration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 6 hours ago, adam said: He was bad as the Panthers OC last year, but they had terrible players. He made a 30 yr old Thielen into a 1K WR, so he can obviously scheme guys open. The scary thing is he was already the Passing Game Coordinator and that seemed like a total mess. Maybe it was all Waldron. We will see, but it is hard to see how they take the plays that don't work, then somehow change them to work, and have the players in sync with these new plays. It will be interesting, but I would be shocked at a major turnaround at this point. Any improvement is better than nothing, but when you are this bad, almost anything will look like a positive. I heard they didnt want a bunch of different voices in Calebs ear. Joseph and Wadron were the only 2. Flus obvisously had some contact but took a minor role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted Saturday at 08:27 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:27 PM On 11/14/2024 at 9:03 PM, Stinger226 said: I heard they didnt want a bunch of different voices in Calebs ear. Joseph and Wadron were the only 2. Flus obvisously had some contact but took a minor role. How does the Passing Game Coordinator not talk to the QB though? Like aren't those the scouted routes that are drawn up by Brown that they are executing? What am I missing about the Passing Game Coordinator? How does that guy not sit in meetings with Caleb, Waldron, and Joseph? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted Saturday at 08:35 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:35 PM 10 minutes ago, adam said: How does the Passing Game Coordinator not talk to the QB though? Like aren't those the scouted routes that are drawn up by Brown that they are executing? What am I missing about the Passing Game Coordinator? How does that guy not sit in meetings with Caleb, Waldron, and Joseph? organization and culture are terrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted Saturday at 09:47 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 09:47 PM 1 hour ago, adam said: How does the Passing Game Coordinator not talk to the QB though? Like aren't those the scouted routes that are drawn up by Brown that they are executing? What am I missing about the Passing Game Coordinator? How does that guy not sit in meetings with Caleb, Waldron, and Joseph? A lot of it doesnt make sense, Im sure they all do but the OC is the one doing the game plan with Caleb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted Saturday at 11:15 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:15 PM 1 hour ago, Stinger226 said: A lot of it doesnt make sense, Im sure they all do but the OC is the one doing the game plan with Caleb. It really doesn't make sense. 2 hours ago, BearFan PHX said: organization and culture are terrible They said that they had not had an entire "unit" meeting? So they just met in their individual position groups and never had a offensive unit meeting where they are all in it together? No wonder they are all disjointed. I can't imagine not having a full unit meeting at least once or twice a week. Wild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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