BearFan PHX Posted November 28 Report Share Posted November 28 5 minutes ago, Stinger226 said: Another rookie mistake, took to long to run the play. boy are you off base. If youre the head coach and you see it taking too long, you can call that timeout and stop the clock. It's all narrative from you. Yuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted November 28 Report Share Posted November 28 4 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said: boy are you off base. If youre the head coach and you see it taking too long, you can call that timeout and stop the clock. It's all narrative from you. Yuck. Absolutely. You call time out and reset once you hit 10 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted November 28 Report Share Posted November 28 5 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said: boy are you off base. If youre the head coach and you see it taking too long, you can call that timeout and stop the clock. It's all narrative from you. Yuck. Its a total shot storm, coach, OC and QB all could have saved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted November 28 Author Report Share Posted November 28 Unbelievable, no words. Eberflus has to call a timeout there. Seriously, this guy is so far over his head. How many more losses do we need to experience before the organization does something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted November 28 Report Share Posted November 28 Looked like Rome got held up on that play too. They wouldn't call that though because the last PI was questionable. It is completely on the HC. He needs to know the game and he doesn't. He can go be a DC or motivational speaker now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted November 28 Report Share Posted November 28 3 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said: Looked like Rome got held up on that play too. They wouldn't call that though because the last PI was questionable. It is completely on the HC. He needs to know the game and he doesn't. He can go be a DC or motivational speaker now. With 10 days until the next game , perfect time to fire Flus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted November 28 Report Share Posted November 28 6 minutes ago, adam said: Unbelievable, no words. Eberflus has to call a timeout there. Seriously, this guy is so far over his head. How many more losses do we need to experience before the organization does something? 3 people involved in that convesation, Brown should have called it if Flus said go, if not called ,Caleb should have spiked it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChileBear Posted November 28 Report Share Posted November 28 5 minutes ago, Stinger226 said: Its a total shot storm, coach, OC and QB all could have saved it. HC is the final say. 4 minutes ago, Stinger226 said: With 10 days until the next game , perfect time to fire Flus. Your lips to God's ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted November 28 Report Share Posted November 28 If they fire Flus this week, then great, if they dont i really dont care. He needs to be gone for next year, but i dont need some revenge or punishment. The big question is who should be our next HC for next year, and the obvious 1b question is who should make that choice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted November 28 Report Share Posted November 28 Flus will go down in history as the only coach to lose 7 different ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted November 28 Author Report Share Posted November 28 14 minutes ago, Stinger226 said: Flus will go down in history as the only coach to lose 7 different ways. He is the worst coach in NFL history, bar none. No HC has ever lost this many games due to his own game mismanagement. This is now game 10 that the Bears shouldve won but lost in the last 3 years. Unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan2000 Posted November 28 Report Share Posted November 28 Just leave Flus in Detroit. Every week we find a new dumb way to lose. The moment we took a sack with 20 or so seconds on the clock you call the time out. Regroup and call a play to get a closer for a FG. Pint is we had the ball in field goal range down by 3 with time on the clock to try to win it in regulation. Not only do we play ourselves out of that possibility, we screw up so bad that the clock hits 0 with a time out in our pocket. At the very least we should have been able to force overtime. We are the laughing stock of the nfl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted November 28 Report Share Posted November 28 9 minutes ago, adam said: He is the worst coach in NFL history, bar none. No HC has ever lost this many games due to his own game mismanagement. This is now game 10 that the Bears shouldve won but lost in the last 3 years. Unbelievable. Just heard on the radio that coaches in one score games, he's ranked 221 out of 222. 5-17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted November 28 Author Report Share Posted November 28 Also, that phantom horse collar call on Gordon led to a DET TD. The difference in the game too. Never should've came down to the last sequence anyway. Caleb threw for more TDs in the 2nd half against DET than any QB has all year in a full game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted November 28 Author Report Share Posted November 28 2 minutes ago, Stinger226 said: Just heard on the radio that coaches in one score games, he's ranked 221 out of 222. 5-17 He is literally the worst modern day coach in NFL history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted November 28 Report Share Posted November 28 Is Halas Hall talking about firing Flus tonight? I would say someone mentions it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted November 28 Report Share Posted November 28 Virginia is the only one with balls, so it'll have to come from her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted November 28 Report Share Posted November 28 So maybe it gets clearer now. Do we want to let Poles, the guy who kept Eberflus this past offseason, to be the guy that picks the next head coach? I assume we all understand how that single decision is going to shape the next 10 years of this franchise, and Caleb's career in Chicago. To me that one narrow question is the whole thing. If you only look at that small corner of this, you have to be able to say YES to keep Poles despite any other mitigating or positive factors. And I dont see how anyone can. It's not like we didn't know who Flus was last year. The first year, fine, it was a teardown. But last year we KNEW. We saw this same stuff over and over. We could have had Harbaugh, or if we hire Johnson, Kingsbury, Belichick or whoever anyone likes, we could have had them this year already. Poles signed off on Waldron. And Getsy. And HE is the guy responsible for making Waldron keep Morgan as OL coach and run game coordinator. Maybe he's good at some things and bad at others. Fine. He is terrible at picking coaches. Picking our next coach is the most crucial decision the franchise has had in 30+ years. How can he be the guy? Maybe Warren and McCaskey will hold his hand. Maybe theyll bring in Accorsi or Polian to help. Does that sound familiar? Maybe with help they can collectively get the coach decision right. But do we want to have to hold Pole's hand? If you cant trust your guy to get it right, you gotta replace him, dont you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted November 28 Report Share Posted November 28 1 hour ago, BearFan PHX said: So maybe it gets clearer now. Do we want to let Poles, the guy who kept Eberflus this past offseason, to be the guy that picks the next head coach? I assume we all understand how that single decision is going to shape the next 10 years of this franchise, and Caleb's career in Chicago. To me that one narrow question is the whole thing. If you only look at that small corner of this, you have to be able to say YES to keep Poles despite any other mitigating or positive factors. And I dont see how anyone can. It's not like we didn't know who Flus was last year. The first year, fine, it was a teardown. But last year we KNEW. We saw this same stuff over and over. We could have had Harbaugh, or if we hire Johnson, Kingsbury, Belichick or whoever anyone likes, we could have had them this year already. Poles signed off on Waldron. And Getsy. And HE is the guy responsible for making Waldron keep Morgan as OL coach and run game coordinator. Maybe he's good at some things and bad at others. Fine. He is terrible at picking coaches. Picking our next coach is the most crucial decision the franchise has had in 30+ years. How can he be the guy? Maybe Warren and McCaskey will hold his hand. Maybe theyll bring in Accorsi or Polian to help. Does that sound familiar? Maybe with help they can collectively get the coach decision right. But do we want to have to hold Pole's hand? If you cant trust your guy to get it right, you gotta replace him, dont you? Really this is what yor talking about right now? If Poles doesnt fire him before the next game, Im going to join your group of hate everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted November 29 Report Share Posted November 29 3 hours ago, Stinger226 said: Is Halas Hall talking about firing Flus tonight? I would say someone mentions it. Yeah I think depending on tone in locker, they need to really consider it. And I have been one who said just wait until the end. I would not hand it to Brown - he had to focus all his energy on Caleb and the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted November 29 Report Share Posted November 29 4 hours ago, Stinger226 said: Really this is what yor talking about right now? If Poles doesnt fire him before the next game, Im going to join your group of hate everyone. first off I dont hate everyone at all. I like a lot of the roster, and I think the scouting department has done well. I think Ian Cunningham is probably pretty good, and i think Poles has been good at some parts of his job. But the coaching staff is awful, and the question is who should pick the next one. It's simply not true that Im a negative thinker. For example, I dont care if they fire Flus now or at the end of the year. It's not personal with me, I dont hate on Flus, I just think he isnt a good head coach. It's not emotional with me. And since we all know hes gone after this year, the next topic inevitably becomes, who should pick his successor. And I just dont want the guy who picked Eberflus twice, Getsy, Waldron and made Waldron keep Morgan to be the guy that makes that decision. Poles has done lots of things right, but i dont trust him to pick the next head coach, and if he gets that wrong, then Caleb is over for us forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted November 29 Report Share Posted November 29 2 hours ago, BearFan PHX said: first off I dont hate everyone at all. I like a lot of the roster, and I think the scouting department has done well. I think Ian Cunningham is probably pretty good, and i think Poles has been good at some parts of his job. But the coaching staff is awful, and the question is who should pick the next one. It's simply not true that Im a negative thinker. For example, I dont care if they fire Flus now or at the end of the year. It's not personal with me, I dont hate on Flus, I just think he isnt a good head coach. It's not emotional with me. And since we all know hes gone after this year, the next topic inevitably becomes, who should pick his successor. And I just dont want the guy who picked Eberflus twice, Getsy, Waldron and made Waldron keep Morgan to be the guy that makes that decision. Poles has done lots of things right, but i dont trust him to pick the next head coach, and if he gets that wrong, then Caleb is over for us forever. The thing with Poles is did he really pick Eberflus or was that who they interviewed before he was hired and he was encouraged. That has been the Bears issue on how they go about things. I am 50/50 on Poles. He found gems and a few turds. Warren needs to see what his future thoughts are. They have to have a short list of coaches, Poles gas covered bases better than most gms and I feel Eberflus is let go tomorrow and the reins given to Brown or Hoke. Great time to get a look at Brown even if he has little time to keep the offense flowing and controlling the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted November 29 Report Share Posted November 29 Yep, someone was in his ear and it will be broadcasted next week on impractical jokers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted November 29 Report Share Posted November 29 32 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said: The thing with Poles is did he really pick Eberflus or was that who they interviewed before he was hired and he was encouraged. That has been the Bears issue on how they go about things. I am 50/50 on Poles. He found gems and a few turds. Warren needs to see what his future thoughts are. They have to have a short list of coaches, Poles gas covered bases better than most gms and I feel Eberflus is let go tomorrow and the reins given to Brown or Hoke. Great time to get a look at Brown even if he has little time to keep the offense flowing and controlling the team. I agree with you regarding the first time Poles hired Flus. But when he kept him after last year, that was the second time. He also OK'd Getsy, Waldron and forced Waldron to keep Morgan as OL coach and run coordinator. Whoever the next head coach is, no more arranged marriages. Let them pick their staff! Is Poles the right guy to make that decision? And to find the OL we need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted November 29 Report Share Posted November 29 43 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said: I agree with you regarding the first time Poles hired Flus. But when he kept him after last year, that was the second time. He also OK'd Getsy, Waldron and forced Waldron to keep Morgan as OL coach and run coordinator. Whoever the next head coach is, no more arranged marriages. Let them pick their staff! Is Poles the right guy to make that decision? And to find the OL we need? Do you think the mckaskeys were going to let Warren and Poles fire the coach. Have the Bears ever done it? I think it goes hirer up. I like more of what Poles has done with the little resources he has had than the the previous gms since Angelo. Angelo started to sour once Lovie got more power in that dual. I do think Cunningham is more than Poles and would be fine letting flus and poles both go. The Bears have 3-4 years to win a superbowl and now next year will be about learning the new system, so time is closing fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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