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[Stinger226]

30 minutes ago, Lucky Luciano said:

again, i know nearly nothing about the actual real play requirements as you and ashkum are putting forth, but, here are the pluses...

1. size

2. arm length

3. quickness - he certainly would fit the description a pulling guard would require - he can get to the second level as a blocker

4. he supposedly is a good run blocker

5. he would not have the lateral movement or assignments a tackle has for DE's. this SHOULD help him with the type of assignments required by a guard?

I think if they draft a LT high, they let him and jones battle for the spot and loser is swing T. Also Kiran name will come into play since Poles drafted him for competion at LT. One of them may be shifted to OG. Since Poles was in KC when they drafted Trey Smith, i think he goes after him to anchor the right side of the line. him and Wright would bully players on defense. Chiefs effective cap space next yr is 5.7 mil. They just dont have the money to keep Smith. Smith will commmand 20 + mil a yr and I think Poles fits that in his cap space. 

[Lucky Luciano]

8 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

I think if they draft a LT high, they let him and jones battle for the spot and loser is swing T. Also Kiran name will come into play since Poles drafted him for competion at LT. One of them may be shifted to OG. Since Poles was in KC when they drafted Trey Smith, i think he goes after him to anchor the right side of the line. him and Wright would bully players on defense. Chiefs effective cap space next yr is 5.7 mil. They just dont have the money to keep Smith. Smith will commmand 20 + mil a yr and I think Poles fits that in his cap space. 

20 mil for a guard per year??? that would destroy the cap.

[Mongo3451]

11 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

I'm just saying i think Braxton Jones doesnt hold up well against the bull rush, and he would have a harder time with DTs bringing that.

Totally get what you are saying.  There are instances where Braxton holds up well to the bull rush.  From tackle to guard there is a huge disparity in the percentage of times he would be susceptible.  If he gets beat by a bull rush 40% of the time, he's out of the NFL, so let's say he's at 30%.  At guard, it would be closer to 5%.  Who knows, he could be tragically flawed with his set.  Odds just don't tell it that way.

[Stinger226]

4 hours ago, Lucky Luciano said:

20 mil for a guard per year??? that would destroy the cap.

It may not be Trey Smith but any vet help at the top of talent scale will not be cheap. The OL has been a big puddle of mud this yr. Injuries come into play but I think he brings one quality FA to stabilize the OL. he will add a couple rookies but rookies have learning curves. The experiment with Nate Davis a above average talent at 10 mil a yr didnt work out.  He will pay more for a better option. Last year, Lions brought in Kevin Zeitler at 35 for 6 mil but you take chances on older players. We need a fix now while Caleb has 4 more  yrs small cap space left. 

Dave Dalman is a talented center that's a FA this yr and the Falcons will have cap problems next yr. Maybe they go after him. Humphrey is making 18 mil a yr  as the top center and Dalman will get at leat 12+ Maybe they grab him, brig back Jenkins, and draft a pouple of OGs.

Next yr the OL has to be ready to go, they cant experiment anymore, Smith or Dalman would solidify a younger line.