2025 Draft Big Board

[adam]

At this point, it would be a miracle if the Bears drafted outside of the top 10. With that in mind, I wanted to see what type of players were available in the top 10. According to a collection of big boards here is what I came up with:

T. Hunter CB/WR - most likely non-QB to go #1
T. McMillan WR - I feel like the Bears are good at WR with Moore and Odunze and a vet like Allen or someone else can be WR3. 
M. Graham DT - I would love him on the Bears
A. Jeanty RB - Not the ideal position for the Bears, but if he fell to #9, that would be a hard one to pass up.
A. Carter ED - Would be amazing across from Sweat
W. Johnson CB - Not the biggest need but would be nice across from JJ
M. Starks S - Brisker should be back
W. Campbell OT - I want him or Graham as my 1a and 1b
N. Scourton ED - Another nice option across from Sweat
K. Banks OT - I feel like he would be the pick only if Graham, Carter, Campbell, and Scourton were gone.

So no QBs listed in the top 10, even though Sanders, Ward, and Milroe are coming out. There is a good chance that teams looking for a QB will have to bite the bullet, because Sanders, Milroe, and Ward are not lasting to the 2nd round. That helps the Bears as if any QBs go before the Bears pick, a star is falling to the Bears. 

1. LVR - Needs QB
2. NYG - Needs QB
3. NE - 
4. CAR - depends on how they view Young
5. JAX - 
6. TEN - depends on how they view Levis
7. NYJ - Needs QB
8. CLE - stuck with Watson for at least 2025
9. CHI - 
10. NO - Needs QB

The only teams outside of the top 10 that could want a QB are IND, ATL, and possibly even PIT. 

[Mongo3451]

1 hour ago, adam said:

The only teams outside of the top 10 that could want a QB are IND, ATL, and possibly even PIT. 

I don't think any of those teams are looking QB.  Indy has Richardson, ATL has Penix.  Both are too young to give up on.  Steelers possibly, but Russ is getting it done.

[Stinger226]

I have been looking at a ton of draft stuff considering how our season as went. In order of high end talent.

Graham/DT

Campbell/OT

Carter/DE

Banks/OT

I have seen Banks listed in the top 20 more than the top 10. Campbell at the bottom of top 10s a lot. It seemm Graham is a prize and Carter not far behind.There are lots of IOL littered in the second and 3rd rounds. 

So you do you draft BPA or need. Honestly the OL are close enough to top of the talent level to pick at 5-9 depending on where we land. Braxton will never be better than just average but Kiran A. was drafted (2nd round talent) to compete with Braxton. Do we go BPA available with our first pick DT or DE and draft a OT later then add a OG and C in 2nd and 3rd rounds?

 

 

[DABEARSDABOMB]

12 hours ago, adam said:

At this point, it would be a miracle if the Bears drafted outside of the top 10. With that in mind, I wanted to see what type of players were available in the top 10. According to a collection of big boards here is what I came up with:

T. Hunter CB/WR - most likely non-QB to go #1
T. McMillan WR - I feel like the Bears are good at WR with Moore and Odunze and a vet like Allen or someone else can be WR3. 
M. Graham DT - I would love him on the Bears
A. Jeanty RB - Not the ideal position for the Bears, but if he fell to #9, that would be a hard one to pass up.
A. Carter ED - Would be amazing across from Sweat
W. Johnson CB - Not the biggest need but would be nice across from JJ
M. Starks S - Brisker should be back
W. Campbell OT - I want him or Graham as my 1a and 1b
N. Scourton ED - Another nice option across from Sweat
K. Banks OT - I feel like he would be the pick only if Graham, Carter, Campbell, and Scourton were gone.

So no QBs listed in the top 10, even though Sanders, Ward, and Milroe are coming out. There is a good chance that teams looking for a QB will have to bite the bullet, because Sanders, Milroe, and Ward are not lasting to the 2nd round. That helps the Bears as if any QBs go before the Bears pick, a star is falling to the Bears. 

1. LVR - Needs QB
2. NYG - Needs QB
3. NE - 
4. CAR - depends on how they view Young
5. JAX - 
6. TEN - depends on how they view Levis
7. NYJ - Needs QB
8. CLE - stuck with Watson for at least 2025
9. CHI - 
10. NO - Needs QB

The only teams outside of the top 10 that could want a QB are IND, ATL, and possibly even PIT. 

Carolina is not moving away from Young. He has improved a ton this season since his benching. 

[DABEARSDABOMB]

10 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

I have been looking at a ton of draft stuff considering how our season as went. In order of high end talent.

Graham/DT

Campbell/OT

Carter/DE

Banks/OT

I have seen Banks listed in the top 20 more than the top 10. Campbell at the bottom of top 10s a lot. It seemm Graham is a prize and Carter not far behind.There are lots of IOL littered in the second and 3rd rounds. 

So you do you draft BPA or need. Honestly the OL are close enough to top of the talent level to pick at 5-9 depending on where we land. Braxton will never be better than just average but Kiran A. was drafted (2nd round talent) to compete with Braxton. Do we go BPA available with our first pick DT or DE and draft a OT later then add a OG and C in 2nd and 3rd rounds?

 

 

I’m not getting cute - I’m signing a big time olinen and than drafting 2 more…or I am signing Khalil Mack on a short term deal and drafting an OT and OG and and a tackle but I’m not messing around with the trenches. I’m adding 2 top 2 round (or big money free agents) to oline and dline. Push Braxton and Kiran to fight for other roles and really get strong interior and invest. 

[BearFan PHX]

1 hour ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:

I’m not getting cute - I’m signing a big time olinen and than drafting 2 more…or I am signing Khalil Mack on a short term deal and drafting an OT and OG and and a tackle but I’m not messing around with the trenches. I’m adding 2 top 2 round (or big money free agents) to oline and dline. Push Braxton and Kiran to fight for other roles and really get strong interior and invest. 

hell yes

[Stinger226]

9 hours ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:

I’m not getting cute - I’m signing a big time olinen and than drafting 2 more…or I am signing Khalil Mack on a short term deal and drafting an OT and OG and and a tackle but I’m not messing around with the trenches. I’m adding 2 top 2 round (or big money free agents) to oline and dline. Push Braxton and Kiran to fight for other roles and really get strong interior and invest. 

I would like all of those choices. I would like Trey Smith, thinking KC is going have a hard time paying a RG 20 mil a yr with their cap situation. The top rated edge is Mack who is making 25 mil this year and is owed 8.8 mil next year in a voided yr. Not sure he would come back here after being traded. SD is competive and have Harbaugh, dont think he is going to leave SD. Their are few other ones more productive edge not sure worth a big contract. The only edge I could find making mote sacks (7) than Mack was Joel Sweat. IDL may be a better place to upgrade overall play at DT. 

We are going to making 3 top 40 picks and  a 70ish pick. 2 OL and 2 DL. I have seen a lot of mocks already and they are picking RBs,TEs, CBs, so many dumb people out there. 

Booker is developing but hasnt had an impact yet. Pickens is showing up a little at a time, Dexter has 5 sacks and will be among the IDL leaders at seasons end. The great Jalen Carter only has 4.5. Billings will be back. Sweat has nagging injuries that has effected his play.We add a vet and a couple high end rookies and i think the DL will be just fine.

 

[Mongo3451]

13 hours ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:

So you do you draft BPA or need.

BPA at need.  I don't care if Jesus in cleats slips from the top five to the second round, we have to fix the trenches.

[DABEARSDABOMB]

3 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:

BPA at need.  I don't care if Jesus in cleats slips from the top five to the second round, we have to fix the trenches.

My view is - if there isn't a BPA at the need in the trenches, unless someone is way up, than you move on down in the draft.  I will caveat I do think an upgrade at running back would be very useful (but not talking about a FRP).  

[BearFan PHX]

4 minutes ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:

My view is - if there isn't a BPA at the need in the trenches, unless someone is way up, than you move on down in the draft.  I will caveat I do think an upgrade at running back would be very useful (but not talking about a FRP).  

there are a few other places an upgrade would be good too; CB (for stevenson), S (for brisker), LB (for edmunds), WR (for allen), TE (for everett & lewis) but until the OL and DL are significantly upgraded (and we need at least 2 new guys on each) it's hard to want to use draft capital on those positions.

Of course free agency will change all of this. We will add players at all of those positions before the draft. But still, i think we all agree the OL needs a major overhaul, and we need a couple more pieces on the DL before the defense will work.

[Stinger226]

Today we signed Johnathan Ford/DT off of Packers PS which means he is on the 53 man roster. 6-5 340 lbs. A perfect time to steal a guy with 4 weeks ro see if he can play. Packers have a very good DL so hard for other players to get a chance. Also signed Royce Freeman to the practice squad. 6' 238 adding some size until Johnson comes back. One yr with Denver he had 531 yds and 5 TDs so he has experience playing.

[BearFan PHX]

1 hour ago, Stinger226 said:

Today we signed Johnathan Ford/DT off of Packers PS which means he is on the 53 man roster. 6-5 340 lbs. A perfect time to steal a guy with 4 weeks ro see if he can play. Packers have a very good DL so hard for other players to get a chance.

Yeah this was smart. These are the kind of details that Poles does well. I guess any good GM would, but we had some bad ones who never worked this hard on the bottom of the roster.

[Stinger226]

9 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

Yeah this was smart. These are the kind of details that Poles does well. I guess any good GM would, but we had some bad ones who never worked this hard on the bottom of the roster.

Its a big crap shoot at the end of the roster but Billings was never lauded as a major pickup and he may have had the biggest impact of our defense falling off since he went out. I guess the point is, Poles keeps trying to get talent. He has had some success with unknown players like Bagent, Sanborn, Billings, Bill Murray. I wish Murray didnt get hurt he seemed like he could have eventually been a starter. Of course he has misses, all GMs do but these are cheap decisions if they fail.

[AZ54]

19 hours ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:

My view is - if there isn't a BPA at the need in the trenches, unless someone is way up, than you move on down in the draft.  I will caveat I do think an upgrade at running back would be very useful (but not talking about a FRP).  

Agreed.   I'd be fine with a franchise LT, DT, or DE in the top 10.  If they aren't there trade back and go for volume.  For Oline our greatest need is IOL and those are available later in Rd 1 anyway.   Amegadjie has all the traits you look for in a LT so the team might feel like giving him time to develop and rely on Jones as the floor for one more season.  The caveat here is if our defensive scheme changes with the new HC back to a 3-4.   Dexter and Billings are still good and really IDL needs don't change much other than possibly the type of player we'd need.  LB and Edge will.   With $80-90mil to spend this offseason we have flexibility to modify the roster as needed prior to the draft.  

[Stinger226]

2 hours ago, AZ54 said:

Agreed.   I'd be fine with a franchise LT, DT, or DE in the top 10.  If they aren't there trade back and go for volume.  For Oline our greatest need is IOL and those are available later in Rd 1 anyway.   Amegadjie has all the traits you look for in a LT so the team might feel like giving him time to develop and rely on Jones as the floor for one more season.  The caveat here is if our defensive scheme changes with the new HC back to a 3-4.   Dexter and Billings are still good and really IDL needs don't change much other than possibly the type of player we'd need.  LB and Edge will.   With $80-90mil to spend this offseason we have flexibility to modify the roster as needed prior to the draft.  

If Mason Graham-Abdul Carter or Kelvin Banks is there, jump on it, if not, dropping back and getting more shots at blue chip prospects seems like the best idea. 

[BearFan PHX]

6 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

Of course he has misses, all GMs do but these are cheap decisions if they fail.

I never blame a GM for the cheap moves. They are like lottery tickets. Better to have a bunch of them, but they often dont win.

[adam]

On 12/10/2024 at 11:38 AM, Mongo3451 said:

I don't think any of those teams are looking QB.  Indy has Richardson, ATL has Penix.  Both are too young to give up on.  Steelers possibly, but Russ is getting it done.

Yeah you are probably right, which means unless PIT wants to move up, the Bears are standing pat at whatever top 10 pick they have. I am just hoping a QB or two go off the board before they pick. 

[Mongo3451]

45 minutes ago, adam said:

Yeah you are probably right, which means unless PIT wants to move up, the Bears are standing pat at whatever top 10 pick they have. I am just hoping a QB or two go off the board before they pick. 

We can hope Rodgers pulls off a couple wins and the Saints win another.  That may pit them against each other.

[ASHKUM BEAR]

On mock draft simulators, I am seeing QBs like Ewers in round 2.  He will more than likely be a top 15 pick.  QBs always rise and there will be teams with need at the position willing to get their guy.  No one expected ATL to draft QB and it broke a few GMs hearts that wanted Penix.  I do not want to trade down unless we end up top 4.