3x OC Options for HC

[Stinger226]

8 hours ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:

It’s why I think Poles is a loser…he hasn’t gotten the little things right either. Bad usage of draft capital in later rounds and with trades and just wasted picks. Too many luxury picks like two punters, Velus, the trades of picks for guys who don’t produce (Bates, Claypool, some other olinemen, Taylor from Seattle). 
 

A bust like Davis I could get - but given coaches warned him and he ignored - he gets no pass for that. 
 

Poles only plus is he got good value for the number one pick. Any GM could have done that - that wasn’t hard and involved no skill. When it comes to real moves he has shit the bed on all the little things including putting bad oline around Fields (and a year plus with shitty skill position talent) and than doing same with Caleb (from oline). And even getting Keenan - Mooney was in-house and impacted by Fields but he is crushing it in Atlanta. 
 

Look at Poles quotes at what went wrong - he was watching the camp and couldn’t see it. It’s not like this year Flus got shittier with the small details - Poles doesn’t know what to recognize. He is just as much a part of the problem. 

Poles carry responsibility for a lot of things that's happened but don't think his bosses are holding him responsible. I think if they were getting rid of him they would have already done it. So we have to hope he has learned from mistakes made. Ryan Pace totally screwed up here and went to work in ATL as president of football operations and seems to be helping them turn things around there. People learn from mistakes. The key is the coach choice.

[BearFan PHX]

2 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

I think if they were getting rid of him they would have already done it.

I understand that logic, but there are some scenarios, like what if they really want a coach like Johnson, and he says he will only take the job if you bring in his guy? Then i think Poles could be let go. ANd since you dont know which coach you want yet, and which Gm they might want, they could be keeping Poles around until they know those things, and cut him loose after that.

So while I agree if they were going to fire him for his performance in and of itself, they might have done it already, or in the next week, if they fire him to make room for a new guy, they might still hold on to him until the new guy is chosen and we hear who he wants?

[BearFan PHX]

14 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:

 

This all day. A head coach is a lot more than a coordinator or a scheme. We need a head coach desperately. I cant say that Ben Johnson doesnt have those skills, but I just dont know. I know Vrabel does, but then you have to find the right coordinator to develop Caleb and hope he sticks around.

So either way there are unknowns. This is not an easy decision in my eyes.

[Alaskan Grizzly]

I think right now I’m for the idea of Carroll as HC and maybe someone like Brown coming back as OC.  For some reason the offense ran a lot better when Brown was just doing OC duties.  

[Stinger226]

19 minutes ago, Alaskan Grizzly said:

I think right now I’m for the idea of Carroll as HC and maybe someone like Brown coming back as OC.  For some reason the offense ran a lot better when Brown was just doing OC duties.  

He has some upside but not as a HC. Carroll, Gruden, Johnson or Vrabel would all be fine with me. No one knows how they will do until it happens. 

[Bears4Ever_34]

Vrabel has to be the front runner for the New England job now that they fired Mayo. Bears better get their shit together and fire Ryan Poles ASAP before Ben Johnson takes the Jags job.