Please no.. McCarthy..

[OmahaBear]

Teams making moves to interview multiple people..  and we go here.. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43312864/sources-bears-request-interview-cowboys-mike-mccarthy

 

 

[Stinger226]

I don't like the massive list of candidates, and if McCarthy comes here I will take a hiatus on being a bear's fan. 

[DABEARSDABOMB]

McCarthy is a proven good coach. Talking to him and getting his view points is a no brainer. Is he great…no, but he is good and you should speak with him. 

[Lucky Luciano]

1 hour ago, OmahaBear said:

Teams making moves to interview multiple people..  and we go here.. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43312864/sources-bears-request-interview-cowboys-mike-mccarthy

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Besides McCarthy, the Bears also reportedly requested to interview Detroit Lions offensive coordinator Ben Johnson during Detroit's bye week. According to Schefter, the Bears also requested interviews with Pittsburgh Steelers offensive coordinator Arthur Smith and Vikings defensive coordinator Brian Flores. Interim head coach Thomas Brown will also receive a formal interview, according to GM Ryan Poles.

Todd Archer, ESPN Staff WriterJan 6, 2025, 04:09 PM ET

NO mccarthy. this guy is average at BEST. who couldn't win with HOF qb's? what is his record without favre and rogers? he's a blockhead. if they pick this guy from all the available coaches this franchise is toast for another decade.

add to bad choices... arthur smith? as the falcons HC, he got fired from there after 3 years for a dismal record, and we are interviewing him with expectations of the same?

do we really need flores a defensive coach overseeing our qb? really? thomas brown as our HC? you freaking kidding me? this is the crap that is typical of the bears. drag your feet with some demented interview agenda because you are too stupid to already know who you want, after how many weeks of an interim head coach, while the best get hired immediately by another team because that way they think they can save face by saying the best were already taken. not our fault. just more BS.

[Stinger226]

5 hours ago, Lucky Luciano said:

NO mccarthy. this guy is average at BEST. who couldn't win with HOF qb's? what is his record without favre and rogers? he's a blockhead. if they pick this guy from all the available coaches this franchise is toast for another decade.

add to bad choices... arthur smith? as the falcons HC, he got fired from there after 3 years for a dismal record, and we are interviewing him with expectations of the same?

do we really need flores a defensive coach overseeing our qb? really? thomas brown as our HC? you freaking kidding me? this is the crap that is typical of the bears. drag your feet with some demented interview agenda because you are too stupid to already know who you want, after how many weeks of an interim head coach, while the best get hired immediately by another team because that way they think they can save face by saying the best were already taken. not our fault. just more BS.

Hopefully this time is different, I think they will grab a high level name and not the Browns or McCarthy. Also I wouldn't want Ron Rivera either..

[AZ54]

6 hours ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:

McCarthy is a proven good coach. Talking to him and getting his view points is a no brainer. Is he great…no, but he is good and you should speak with him. 

We need to remember what the team did last year when we interviewed OCs because that's how we found Thomas Brown.  While he's not yet HC material, nor even OC material he's on that path and I do think he's a good coach.  He just needs more time.  McCarthy could just as easily be an OC target for one of our HC candidates.   He's clearly not a HC I'd want but like many other very seasoned coaches he might step back to being an OC and be just fine running the offense for someone like Mike Vrabel.    

[BearFan PHX]

1 hour ago, AZ54 said:

We need to remember what the team did last year when we interviewed OCs because that's how we found Thomas Brown.  While he's not yet HC material, nor even OC material he's on that path and I do think he's a good coach.  He just needs more time.  McCarthy could just as easily be an OC target for one of our HC candidates.   He's clearly not a HC I'd want but like many other very seasoned coaches he might step back to being an OC and be just fine running the offense for someone like Mike Vrabel.    

This is a good point - you get your OC interviews done at the same time, and get some free consulting in the process.

[Stinger226]

1 hour ago, AZ54 said:

We need to remember what the team did last year when we interviewed OCs because that's how we found Thomas Brown.  While he's not yet HC material, nor even OC material he's on that path and I do think he's a good coach.  He just needs more time.  McCarthy could just as easily be an OC target for one of our HC candidates.   He's clearly not a HC I'd want but like many other very seasoned coaches he might step back to being an OC and be just fine running the offense for someone like Mike Vrabel.    

The more input you get on different coaches perspective, good or bad, can help you going forward. All candidates not getting HC jobs, like you said are available to work here in a different job if the new HC desires that.

[BearFan PHX]

1 hour ago, Stinger226 said:

The more input you get on different coaches perspective, good or bad, can help you going forward. All candidates not getting HC jobs, like you said are available to work here in a different job if the new HC desires that.

yes, it's just smart to do your due diligence even if you know that's not gonna be your guy.

thats why we should at least have TALKED to Harbaugh. Wouldnt we have wanted to know what his plan would have been? i mean hes only the 5th highest winning percentage of all time or something like that.

[Lucky Luciano]

10 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

Hopefully this time is different, I think they will grab a high level name and not the Browns or McCarthy. Also I wouldn't want Ron Rivera either..

if we got an offensive coach like johnson rivera would be a very nice fit as DC.

[adam]

Is this the list so far?

1. Johnson
2. Vrabel
3. Monken
4. Flores
5. McCarthy
6. Petzing
7. Glenn
8. Shaw
9. Smith
10. Weaver
11. Brown
12. Kafka

[AZ54]

9 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

yes, it's just smart to do your due diligence even if you know that's not gonna be your guy.

thats why we should at least have TALKED to Harbaugh. Wouldnt we have wanted to know what his plan would have been? i mean hes only the 5th highest winning percentage of all time or something like that.

I can't argue against that point even though I knew Warren would never approve of hiring him.  

[BearFan PHX]

47 minutes ago, AZ54 said:

I can't argue against that point even though I knew Warren would never approve of hiring him.  

and I know Harbaugh is polarizing, so i get it - but for me, if it came down to who can help this franchise more, Harbaugh or Warren, it's an easy call to dump Warren LOL

[Mongo3451]

2 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

and I know Harbaugh is polarizing, so i get it - but for me, if it came down to who can help this franchise more, Harbaugh or Warren, it's an easy call to dump Warren LOL

Yup, it's like when Lawrence Taylor was late for the bus.  The guy walking in with him got the ass chewing.  One better is that Michael Jordan would purposely let the person walk on the bus before him and the dude would still get the ass chewing... Lol

[BearFan PHX]

1 hour ago, Mongo3451 said:

Yup, it's like when Lawrence Taylor was late for the bus.  The guy walking in with him got the ass chewing.  One better is that Michael Jordan would purposely let the person walk on the bus before him and the dude would still get the ass chewing... Lol

lol

Scottie!

On the flip side, Belichick was famous for laying into brady in front of everyone, and that does have a great effect on your team, as long as your QB has thick skin. it wouldnt work with Kyler Murray for example. But I like what ive seen of Caleb taking responsibility, and covering for the OL even. Hes a real leader.

[Bears4Ever_34]

Unpopular opinion, but Mike McCarthy is a pretty good coach. It's funny to me the discrepancy between how the general public views a guy like McCarthy and how they view Mike Tomlin. If you compare their resumes side by side, they are eerily similar.

McCarthy:

-18 seasons
- .608 regular season win%
- .500 playoff win %
- 1 Superbowl

Tomlin:

-18 seasons
- .630 regular season win %
- .444 playoff win %
- 1 Superbowl

He wouldn't be my 1st or 2nd choice, but the Bears could do a lot worse. There also would be something poetic about Caleb Williams being coached by the man who developed his favorite player into a Hall of Famer.

[DABEARSDABOMB]

6 minutes ago, Bears4Ever_34 said:

Unpopular opinion, but Mike McCarthy is a really good coach. It's funny to me the discrepancy between how the general public views a guy like McCarthy and how they view Mike Tomlin. If you compare their resumes side by side, they are eerily similar.

McCarthy:

-18 seasons
- .608 regular season win%
- .500 playoff win %
- 1 Superbowl

Tomlin:

-18 seasons
- .630 regular season win %
- .444 playoff win %
- 1 Superbowl

He wouldn't be my 1st or 2nd choice, but the Bears could do a lot worse. There also would be something poetic about Caleb Williams being coached by the man who developed his favorite player into a Hall of Famer.

He is probably the safest hire of all the coaches. He's worked with 3 high level QB's and played a huge part in 2 of theirs success (huge part of Rodgers & Dak had his best years under Mike).  He's won a superbowl - made the playoffs a ton - high winning percentage.  Yes - he has some issues that maybe keep him from being great, but its not like Jerry is the best in the world either. 

Bottom line - they could do a lot worse.  McCarthy has a good floor and I'd feel pretty good about Caleb's development...maybe in 4 years you need to move on from Mike to someone who can take them to next level -but I think Mike would put Caleb and the rest of the team on a pretty good path forward.  I also think he's pretty good at bringing on good assistants.  

By the way - Poles press conference today. I don't know how to describe it - but he gives me absolutely zero confidence.  None. In fact I have negative confidence in his ability at this point.  

[Bears4Ever_34]

11 hours ago, adam said:

Is this the list so far?

1. Johnson
2. Vrabel
3. Monken
4. Flores
5. McCarthy
6. Petzing
7. Glenn
8. Shaw
9. Smith
10. Weaver
11. Brown
12. Kafka

Joe Brady was requested today, and Pete Carroll is reportedly interviewing Thursday. This list is way too long, and, once again, leaves me with the feeling that this organization has no idea what they're doing. They interviewed 10 offensive coordinator candidates last year and ended up with Shane Waldron. Just hire Ben Johnson and let's get this thing over with.

[DABEARSDABOMB]

12 minutes ago, Bears4Ever_34 said:

Joe Brady was requested today, and Pete Carroll is reportedly interviewing Thursday. This list is way too long, and, once again, leaves me with the feeling that this organization has no idea what they're doing. They interviewed 10 offensive coordinator candidates last year and ended up with Shane Waldron. Just hire Ben Johnson and let's get this thing over with.

Its this - I think they focus on people who interview like a Corporate executive and don't focus on the right things that matter.  I don't mind if you are interviewing these people for a purpose and have a "real" list which is say 3-5 people and the others are more of a "intelligence" list. This could be - we want to gather intel on views they had on x or y, or learn something specific and or even just get some early insights around how they might fit on a potential staff in a non HC role. But if you are legitimately looking at all of them and going to go off best interview than you are really throwing out tons of track record and realness for who put in the best prep for an interview (especially when some of these people are in the middle of prepping for playoffs, etc).  

Its why Pete, McCarthy, Vrabel are super high on my list - all would be good gets.  Issues and risks with all of them - but they are people who move us forward as an org in my mind.  Johnson or Brady or Bucs OC are guys who have risk but could be awesome too.  

[AZ54]

36 minutes ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:

He is probably the safest hire of all the coaches. He's worked with 3 high level QB's and played a huge part in 2 of theirs success (huge part of Rodgers & Dak had his best years under Mike).  He's won a superbowl - made the playoffs a ton - high winning percentage.  Yes - he has some issues that maybe keep him from being great, but its not like Jerry is the best in the world either. 

Bottom line - they could do a lot worse.  McCarthy has a good floor and I'd feel pretty good about Caleb's development...maybe in 4 years you need to move on from Mike to someone who can take them to next level -but I think Mike would put Caleb and the rest of the team on a pretty good path forward.  I also think he's pretty good at bringing on good assistants.  

By the way - Poles press conference today. I don't know how to describe it - but he gives me absolutely zero confidence.  None. In fact I have negative confidence in his ability at this point.  

And IIRC he also had issues with his defenses over the years.  IMO the resume says he's an OC candidate. 

[ASHKUM BEAR]

The Cowboys denied the Bears permission to interview McCarthy.

I think he would be a top 5-6 candidate.  So losing this opportunity hurts.  

https://www.nfl.com/news/cowboys-denied-bears-permission-to-interview-mike-mccarthy-for-head-coach-vacancy

[DABEARSDABOMB]

20 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

The Cowboys denied the Bears permission to interview McCarthy.

I think he would be a top 5-6 candidate.  So losing this opportunity hurts.  

https://www.nfl.com/news/cowboys-denied-bears-permission-to-interview-mike-mccarthy-for-head-coach-vacancy

The only risk is if the wait for him they lose out on another candidate. I don’t think Johnson will be gone in next week but Vrabel might be. 
 

But I think McCarthy is a legit plan B if they don’t like their plan A’s (Johnson / Vrabel / Pete).

[Stinger226]

2 hours ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

The Cowboys denied the Bears permission to interview McCarthy.

I think he would be a top 5-6 candidate.  So losing this opportunity hurts.  

https://www.nfl.com/news/cowboys-denied-bears-permission-to-interview-mike-mccarthy-for-head-coach-vacancy

Next week he becomes available, his contract with Dallas runs out then. If they denied access probably means he's staying in Dallas.

[Stinger226]

It seems, with Warren input,  they're trying to find a diamond in the rough like McConnell was hired in Minnesota. Just go get the best candidate and not screw around. 

For me: Vrabel - Johnson -David Shaw ( the more I read about him the more I like him). I would say Gruden but doesn't appear to have been contacted.

[Mongo3451]

Why the holy hell are we interviewing 13 freaking people for the HC position?  The real candidates must be shaking their heads.  Not a good look.  Just stupid...