AZ54 Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 We have to see how FA plays out but I would like find a good 3rd WR in the draft. Jaylen Noel would fit in well as a nice compliment with DJ and Rome. He has a little bit of DJ Moore's style to his game and can work all levels of the field with speed and good ball tracking skills. Since I watched quite a few games during the season, he has occasional drops usually because he's trying run before completing the catch. He's likely a 3rd Rd pick. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jaylin-noel/32004e4f-4537-8255-74e9-bfa22151ef3a https://thedraftnetwork.com/2024/06/27/jaylin-noel-scouting-report-nfl-draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 at first blush, he's a little guy, but he has some twitch to him. Maybe he could provide some of the slot role that Allen gave us last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 9 Author Report Share Posted March 9 4 hours ago, AZ54 said: We have to see how FA plays out but I would like find a good 3rd WR in the draft. Jaylen Noel would fit in well as a nice compliment with DJ and Rome. He has a little bit of DJ Moore's style to his game and can work all levels of the field with speed and good ball tracking skills. Since I watched quite a few games during the season, he has occasional drops usually because he's trying run before completing the catch. He's likely a 3rd Rd pick. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jaylin-noel/32004e4f-4537-8255-74e9-bfa22151ef3a https://thedraftnetwork.com/2024/06/27/jaylin-noel-scouting-report-nfl-draft I look at prospects and never noticed him. I like when members introduce you to new names. I've been watching a lot of tape on Derrick Harmon/ DT , I would love drafting him but he seems to be moving up draft boards.https://youtu.be/ivkCa_dXJlM?si=3vL7icKhJfxeIaIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ASHKUM BEAR Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 5 hours ago, AZ54 said: We have to see how FA plays out but I would like find a good 3rd WR in the draft. Jaylen Noel would fit in well as a nice compliment with DJ and Rome. He has a little bit of DJ Moore's style to his game and can work all levels of the field with speed and good ball tracking skills. Since I watched quite a few games during the season, he has occasional drops usually because he's trying run before completing the catch. He's likely a 3rd Rd pick. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jaylin-noel/32004e4f-4537-8255-74e9-bfa22151ef3a https://thedraftnetwork.com/2024/06/27/jaylin-noel-scouting-report-nfl-draft I just took him in a draft buzz mock. I read more into his profile and I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 9 Author Report Share Posted March 9 9 hours ago, ASHKUM BEAR said: I just took him in a draft buzz mock. I read more into his profile and I like it. My 3 favorite DTs are Harmon, Kenneth Grant and TJ Sanders. Harmon and Grant probably go first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 9 Author Report Share Posted March 9 I just listened to a podcast and heard that Joshua Grey/OG played for one of our new OL coaches last year. He was the best OL at the Shrine game stated by Eric Edholm. He is listed as the 193 ranked player in the draft. Expect us to draft him at 145. Guard or potential center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 Start looking at safeties. With our cap space rapidly moving into the trenches we aren’t likely to keep a big contract at safety next year. Plus I doubt the team will feel confident giving Brisker a big second contract with his concussion history. LB is the other 2026 cost cutting we’ll see but age and health issues are less of a concern right now than safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 8 hours ago, AZ54 said: Start looking at safeties. With our cap space rapidly moving into the trenches we aren’t likely to keep a big contract at safety next year. Plus I doubt the team will feel confident giving Brisker a big second contract with his concussion history. LB is the other 2026 cost cutting we’ll see but age and health issues are less of a concern right now than safety. Safety has always been on my radar and the draft seems relatively deep there. As much as I would love to see Brisker be a core leader on this team, he and the team has to consider his health. The sad part is that he knows he needs to survive a year to get paid to secure everything he has already gone thru. Possibly why he sat out the last part of the season. I think round 3 could be a sweet spot to start. Few names below. Round2 maybe a Xavier Watts from ND gets the nod. Kevin Winston Jr Penn St 6-1 215 Lathom Ransom Ohio St 6-0 206 Billy Bowman OK 5-9 192 Malachi Moore Alabama 5-11 196 Jaquan Brisker measured at 6-1 200. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 12 Author Report Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, ASHKUM BEAR said: Safety has always been on my radar and the draft seems relatively deep there. As much as I would love to see Brisker be a core leader on this team, he and the team has to consider his health. The sad part is that he knows he needs to survive a year to get paid to secure everything he has already gone thru. Possibly why he sat out the last part of the season. I think round 3 could be a sweet spot to start. Few names below. Round2 maybe a Xavier Watts from ND gets the nod. Kevin Winston Jr Penn St 6-1 215 Lathom Ransom Ohio St 6-0 206 Billy Bowman OK 5-9 192 Malachi Moore Alabama 5-11 196 Jaquan Brisker measured at 6-1 200. I think they address S but not with our top picks. Because we added in the trenches in FA doesn't mean it's fixed. We need a couple prospects to develop as our older players drop off. We have Kiran A, Bill Murray, Chris Glaser, Jordan McFadden, Joshua Miles and Ryan Bates on the roster. Any of those future starters? I think Kiran and Murray are the only ones I trust to maybe be future starters.We need a Zabel or Mbow, plus what ever LT that they like to develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawhizz Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 24 minutes ago, Stinger226 said: I think they address S but not with our top picks. Because we added in the trenches in FA doesn't mean it's fixed. We need a couple prospects to develop as our older players drop off. We have Kiran A, Bill Murray, Chris Glaser, Jordan McFadden, Joshua Miles and Ryan Bates on the roster. Any of those future starters? I think Kiran and Murray are the only ones I trust to maybe be future starters.We need a Zabel or Mbow, plus what ever LT that they like to develop. Kiran is the LT they are hoping to develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 20 minutes ago, dawhizz said: Kiran is the LT they are hoping to develop. right. he never had a chance to learn anything before they threw him to the fire last year. He went from injured/not practicing to his first NFL games. That said, I wouldnt be shocked if we took a LT in the first couple of rounds, maybe even a guy like Kelvin Banks Jr at #10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 14 Author Report Share Posted March 14 On 3/12/2025 at 12:00 PM, BearFan PHX said: right. he never had a chance to learn anything before they threw him to the fire last year. He went from injured/not practicing to his first NFL games. That said, I wouldnt be shocked if we took a LT in the first couple of rounds, maybe even a guy like Kelvin Banks Jr at #10 I think someone like Zabel that could literally be fit in any spot on the OL would be an ideal pick. Someone that could play at least a couple spots. As much as we a solid front five, if someone gets hurt we need upgrade of backup that replace a starter in a year or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted March 14 Report Share Posted March 14 19 minutes ago, Stinger226 said: I think someone like Zabel that could literally be fit in any spot on the OL would be an ideal pick. Someone that could play at least a couple spots. As much as we a solid front five, if someone gets hurt we need upgrade of backup that replace a starter in a year or two. Zabel would be great to have but using a first round pick who will not have a starting spot for at least 3 years is not a good investment for our near term Superbowl window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted March 14 Report Share Posted March 14 11 minutes ago, AZ54 said: Zabel would be great to have but using a first round pick who will not have a starting spot for at least 3 years is not a good investment for our near term Superbowl window. This is my view. He is a utility guy - can’t give a first round pick to a guy who doesn’t project a starter in the next year (and an elite starter at that). Would much rather take a shot at Simmons - high high upside presuming he is healthy. Or the Missouri tackle - shorter arms but elite LT athleticism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted March 14 Report Share Posted March 14 2 hours ago, DABEARSDABOMB said: This is my view. He is a utility guy - can’t give a first round pick to a guy who doesn’t project a starter in the next year (and an elite starter at that). Would much rather take a shot at Simmons - high high upside presuming he is healthy. Or the Missouri tackle - shorter arms but elite LT athleticism. I agree. I don’t think either of them will be worse than Jones. So at a minimum you keep the same performance at LT for a relatively low price. If there is upside then that’s a win win situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted March 14 Report Share Posted March 14 18 minutes ago, AZ54 said: I agree. I don’t think either of them will be worse than Jones. So at a minimum you keep the same performance at LT for a relatively low price. If there is upside then that’s a win win situation. thats an interesting way to look at it. I generally feel like you need even more from a top ten pick, especially since if all goes to plan, we wont have another one for a while. But there is a logic to what youre saying too. Upgrade a premium position, even if the player is never a superstar. Solid and affordable is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 14 Author Report Share Posted March 14 6 hours ago, AZ54 said: Zabel would be great to have but using a first round pick who will not have a starting spot for at least 3 years is not a good investment for our near term Superbowl window. Since we signed Jackson to extra years, I thought he would be a one and done and figured him for that spot next year. I'm not saying to take him at 10 but with trade backs, in the 20s. He could very well end up at LT also. All we need is one starter to go down to throw the OL in chaos. A potential starter at any spot is still a good idea. I heard Olin Kreutz talking and the eagles drafted Cam Jurgins to take Kelce s spot 2 years before he did. All the OL is basically here for 3 years minus Braxton but what if every year has one major injury, he fill in anywhere. He won't be there in the second round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawhizz Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 Useful note on the DEs that the Saints drafted/acquired when Dennis Allen was there. 6’4” 260 lbs. seems like the typical minimum size. On one hand, assuming Allen had some input on the choices, it seems to suggest against the drafting of the smaller/lighter edge players like Mike Green, Jalon Walker, and Donovan Ezeiruaku. On the other hand besides Young and (eventually) Hendrickson, most of these guys didn’t work out, so maybe a change in philosophy is in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 8 minutes ago, dawhizz said: Useful note on the DEs that the Saints drafted/acquired when Dennis Allen was there. 6’4” 260 lbs. seems like the typical minimum size. On one hand, assuming Allen had some input on the choices, it seems to suggest against the drafting of the smaller/lighter edge players like Mike Green, Jalon Walker, and Donovan Ezeiruaku. On the other hand besides Young and (eventually) Hendrickson, most of these guys didn’t work out, so maybe a change in philosophy is in order. Thanks for the this. I was discounting the 260 players as too small, but maybe 260 is the cutoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 On 3/14/2025 at 1:44 AM, Stinger226 said: Since we signed Jackson to extra years, I thought he would be a one and done and figured him for that spot next year. I'm not saying to take him at 10 but with trade backs, in the 20s. He could very well end up at LT also. All we need is one starter to go down to throw the OL in chaos. A potential starter at any spot is still a good idea. I heard Olin Kreutz talking and the eagles drafted Cam Jurgins to take Kelce s spot 2 years before he did. All the OL is basically here for 3 years minus Braxton but what if every year has one major injury, he fill in anywhere. He won't be there in the second round. If I were adding to Superbowl competitive roster I'd likely take a different route. For now I'm prioritizing building a playoff roster and we've still got holes at DE/DT rotation, and a definite need for a starting S next year. ILB will be a need next year as well. Even drafting another good TE who will see 20-30% of the snaps adds game winning value each week. As opposed to drafting a 1st RD IOL who sits for 3 years or until we have an injury. They also didn't know if Kelce was coming back for that last year. Again, we're talking 1st Rd value here. None of this means don't draft depth later but we were about to pay huge money to KC's former 5th Rd pick to play RG. Our Oline starters have come from rounds 1,2,3,4, and 5. I expect my GM to be capable of finding that depth later in the draft. I expect our very accomplished and highly sought-after Oline coach to prove his worth as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 Generically, in terms of position, Id like a LT, but Im not sure any are worth the 10th pick. I like Banks the best, but he isnt as sure a thing as Wright was for example. In terms of talent level, I like McMillan a lot. Is there a true stud DL out there that isnt set to go top 5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 22 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said: Generically, in terms of position, Id like a LT, but Im not sure any are worth the 10th pick. I like Banks the best, but he isnt as sure a thing as Wright was for example. In terms of talent level, I like McMillan a lot. Is there a true stud DL out there that isnt set to go top 5? Walter Nolen and Kenneth Grant are the two to watch. Nolen is a little bit better at 3-tech but can slide to any position on the line even DE. "Prospect Projection: Day 1 — Pro Bowl Caliber" https://thedraftnetwork.com/2024/06/19/walter-nolen-scouting-report-nfl-draft https://thedraftnetwork.com/2024/06/18/kenneth-grant-scouting-report-nfl-draft Prospect Projection: Day 1 — Pro Bowl Caliber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 19 minutes ago, AZ54 said: Walter Nolen and Kenneth Grant are the two to watch. Nolen is a little bit better at 3-tech but can slide to any position on the line even DE. "Prospect Projection: Day 1 — Pro Bowl Caliber" https://thedraftnetwork.com/2024/06/19/walter-nolen-scouting-report-nfl-draft https://thedraftnetwork.com/2024/06/18/kenneth-grant-scouting-report-nfl-draft Prospect Projection: Day 1 — Pro Bowl Caliber Thank you AZ, Ill see if I can find some film on them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 1 hour ago, BearFan PHX said: Thank you AZ, Ill see if I can find some film on them! Given what we just saw in the Superbowl it's surprising more Bears fans are not clamoring to make our Dline that good. Having Jarrett and Dayo, adding Nolen or Grant puts us on that path for the next few seasons. Tack on a 2nd Rd DE and I'll be very happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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