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52 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

very interesting.

check out his ranking on winning percentage (37th all time) vs other notable coaches. Hes been doing it a long time, big sample size, and he beats out guys like Landry, McVey, Carroll, Holmgren, Parcells, Noll.

His .608 all time winning percentage compares favorably to

Bill Walsh .609
Marty Schottenheimer .613
Sean Payton .618

If you remove head coaches with fewer than 8 years experience (smaller sample size compared to McCarthy's 18 years), his rank would be 26th all time.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches

That same list also highlights how good Mike Tomlin is.  And think about how many of those wins came after Big Ben was banged up / retired. Now his ability to develop QB's isn't his strength, but what he's done with everything else kind of says, if you gave him a QB, he's going to do incredibly well.  I really think both are there for the taking (one would require a trade but could be the perfect change of scenery for Tomlin).

Quite frankly I see a scenario that Cowboys get Johnson, Bears get McCarthy and ultimately it is a win for everyone involved (except Lions who lose a really bright mind). Johnson is probably a real good fit in Dallas - where he'd be walking into a really good built system / approach, real talent, etc and be able to use his differentiated scheme to bring them up a level...meanwhile those same things without the right infrastructure have him out of a job in Chicago in 3 years.  

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9 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:

The longer we wait, the less coveted our job will be.  Interviewing so many people is just ridiculous.

Before they changed the rules - this would have been true. Under the new rules I don't think this is true anymore.  No one under contract can be interviewed in person (whether you are on a playoff team or out of the playoffs) until JANUARY 20th.  So the only real head coaching candidates that you could have had an actual IN PERSON head coaching interview with up until today would be Pete Caroll and Mike Vrabel (since NEITHER were under contract). 

The Pats interviewed a few guys who were not in the league (Byron Leftwich and someone else - don't recall) to go along with Vrabel and Bears for example met with Ron Rivera in person...but otherwise for anyone employed by an NFL team as a coach, its purely zoom. Now Mike McCarthy hits the street today (officially)...well technically I guess until tomorrow unless Cowboys let him start process today.  

Now where it gets interesting is those limited guys that can be interviewed in person...do you hire them without getting an in-person with your preferred candidate or a highly thought of candidate)...that is the question. For example - say you are Poles/Warren and you are debating between McCarthy and Ben Johnson....do you wait until the later of January 20th (or when the Lions are knocked out of the playoffs) so you can finally meet with your other candidate or do you decide you just are going to go with McCarthy?  

Saints for example - could decide hey, we know we don't have the perfect job so we run a risk that we can't get our main person so maybe they accelerate now and get McCarthy while Bears wait and than Cowboys still pounce on Johnson. That is where it gets interesting...but these new rules are theortically designed to try and SLOW down the hiring process as to not penalize those assistants on playoff teams.  

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