BearFan PHX Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 It's not signed sealed or delivered yet, but it sounds like Dennis Allen is our likely DC. He's been a head coach twice, so it's not likely he will get another head coaching job soon. He's an aggressive coach who wont sit back in zone all the time. We will live and die by this, but at least our players will get the chance to compete and dominate. Here's an article about his scheme that goes pretty deep in details. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-new-orleans-saints-dennis-allen-defense-buccaneers-tom-brady-week-15-2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 I think he is a good hire if it happens. I like aggressive coaches. I wonder if they're any players that played for him available in free agency? Do you think he would consider Tom Brown as a assistant coach? Not OC but QB coach, he was doing fine with Caleb until he was made to be HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted January 21 Author Report Share Posted January 21 8 minutes ago, Stinger226 said: I think he is a good hire if it happens. I like aggressive coaches. I wonder if they're any players that played for him available in free agency? Do you think he would consider Tom Brown as a assistant coach? Not OC but QB coach, he was doing fine with Caleb until he was made to be HC. yeah, I am sick of always sitting back in a zone on 3rd down. if you have a fearsome front four, that can work, but then again anything works in that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 7 hours ago, BearFan PHX said: It's not signed sealed or delivered yet, but it sounds like Dennis Allen is our likely DC. He's been a head coach twice, so it's not likely he will get another head coaching job soon. He's an aggressive coach who wont sit back in zone all the time. We will live and die by this, but at least our players will get the chance to compete and dominate. Here's an article about his scheme that goes pretty deep in details. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-new-orleans-saints-dennis-allen-defense-buccaneers-tom-brady-week-15-2021 I love having a former HC and strong and aggressive DC around. He led some real good defenses under Sean Payton despite Saints always pouring a ton of resources into the offense. Plus I just like how Ben has the swagger and comfort to have strong coaches like this around him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, Stinger226 said: I think he is a good hire if it happens. I like aggressive coaches. I wonder if they're any players that played for him available in free agency? Do you think he would consider Tom Brown as an assistant coach? Not OC but QB coach, he was doing fine with Caleb until he was made to be HC. Don’t mind Brown and think he will end up getting a head coaching job one day - but I think Bears need to move on from him. Let Johnson bring in his own guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted January 21 Author Report Share Posted January 21 18 minutes ago, DABEARSDABOMB said: I love having a former HC and strong and aggressive DC around. He led some real good defenses under Sean Payton despite Saints always pouring a ton of resources into the offense. Plus I just like how Ben has the swagger and comfort to have strong coaches like this around him. having a former HC to advise a rookie HC is a great idea. Also I like that he is so aggressive. Im SO sick of sitting back in a zone on 3rd down. We will get burned sometimes too, but at least the players can compete. He also has a rep for getting into QBs heads, and he has been especially successful against Brady, so thats a good sign too. Having to play a more aggressive defense in practice will be good for Caleb too. It wont all be text book zones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted January 21 Author Report Share Posted January 21 19 minutes ago, DABEARSDABOMB said: Let Johnson bring in his own guys. Yeah you have to. The days of the Bears front office thinking they know best have GOT to be over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 20 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said: Yeah you have to. The days of the Bears front office thinking they know best have GOT to be over. Asking about Tom Brown working here refers to Johnson wanting him here, the brass interfering in hires is over. I suggest seeing he worked with Caleb in a positive way may incite Johnson to hire him as a QB coach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Sounds like bears have to interview some candidates before this can be official. But Allen is known as an aggressive DC - pretty blitz heavy with exotic schemes. Chase Young had a bounce back season - finished the year real strong. Could be an option to help with pass rush and if Bears get Allen and Saints special teams guy they at least should know whether he’s worth it or not (say a 2hr deal since I don’t think Chase was good enough to get a huge long term deal). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted January 21 Author Report Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Stinger226 said: Asking about Tom Brown working here refers to Johnson wanting him here, the brass interfering in hires is over. I suggest seeing he worked with Caleb in a positive way may incite Johnson to hire him as a QB coach? I dont think its a matter of him being good so much as teaching Johnson's way of thinking, and i have no reason to think brown is familiar with Johnson's style, terminology and approach? Obviously if Johnson wants him, I'm all for it - whoever he wants. But DBDB is right, it has to be Johnson's call from the beginning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted January 21 Author Report Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, DABEARSDABOMB said: Sounds like bears have to interview some candidates before this can be official. But Allen is known as an aggressive DC - pretty blitz heavy with exotic schemes. Chase Young had a bounce back season - finished the year real strong. Could be an option to help with pass rush and if Bears get Allen and Saints special teams guy they at least should know whether he’s worth it or not (say a 2hr deal since I don’t think Chase was good enough to get a huge long term deal). yeah one of the benefits of new coaches is what they know about players on other teams for sure. And coaches especially. I expect Johnson to bring in a top notch OL coach. That will make a huge difference for us. Johnson really knows run blocking schemes, and has successful run blocking rules, and we have been trash at that for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 I seen where someone mentioned the OL coach of Lions as the new OC. It would be a promotion and Ben is calling the plays anyway. Never heard of a OL becoming a OC before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Stinger226 said: I seen where someone mentioned the OL coach of Lions as the new OC. It would be a promotion and Ben is calling the plays anyway. Never heard of a OL becoming a OC before. I would personally love it if they hired Fraley as our OC. All pro center who coached an all pro center. Gimme Dennis Allen too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Allen would be a great hire, someone with HC experience and is one of the better defensive play callers in the NFL. So the Bears could possibly have 2x top 5 play callers on both sides of the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 8 hours ago, adam said: So the Bears could possibly have 2x top 5 play callers on both sides of the ball. Yeah that's kinda shocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 Johnson had to know early he was coming here to have the lineup card ready to go. No one will say it, but as soon as our season ended, all parties had to know he was coming here. That's why there was no money negotiation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 7 hours ago, Stinger226 said: Johnson had to know early he was coming here to have the lineup card ready to go. No one will say it, but as soon as our season ended, all parties had to know he was coming here. That's why there was no money negotiation. The Lion fans are furious and want tampering. They believe they lost because he was more concerned about his next job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 8 hours ago, ASHKUM BEAR said: The Lion fans are furious and want tampering. They believe they lost because he was more concerned about his next job. Ben had a big influence on the defense in that game. It had to be disappointing too when he called those interception plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 I’m reading that Fraley is not coming to the Bears as OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted January 22 Author Report Share Posted January 22 2 hours ago, CrackerDog said: I’m reading that Fraley is not coming to the Bears as OC. well he is getting a second interview at Seattle, so it's unclear at the very least. Too bad, because after what i saw from the Lions, I really trust Fraley. A great OL coach is necessary, and hopefully Ben Johnson can identify a great one and persuade him to come here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 3 hours ago, CrackerDog said: I’m reading that Fraley is not coming to the Bears as OC. The problem with people saying Farley isn't coming here is the same people that said Johnson was going to the Raiders. Rumors are just rumors, it has to play out. The only reason he may not come here is if he wants to call plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted January 23 Author Report Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Stinger226 said: The problem with people saying Farley isn't coming here is the same people that said Johnson was going to the Raiders. Rumors are just rumors, it has to play out. The only reason he may not come here is if he wants to call plays. yes, thats a big deal, ask Eric Bienemy. If he was sure he wanted to come here, he'd probably have signed already, so I think there is something to the idea he is looking elsewhere - but nothing is done until it's done, youre right about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 100% agree with you guys on rumors being just that. And today I see he may be coming. Who knows. I don’t want him calling plays, at least not right away. His real value would be helping design the offense with excellent blocking schemes. Don’t care if he goes elsewhere if he really wants play calling responsibilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted January 24 Author Report Share Posted January 24 I guess we have asked to interview two other defensive coaches. The Rams' defensive backs coach Aubrey Pleasant, and the Vikings defensive backs coach Daronte Jones. Both candidates are black, and I haven't heard any more rumors about Dennis Allen interviewing anywhere else. Each of these guys is a legitimate candidate to interview (unlike, say, Eddie George) each coming from good defenses and being well thought of. But with the silence around Allen, I can't help but wonder if these are Rooney rule interviews. FWIW, for a coordinator's spot it only takes one interview to satisfy the Rooney rule, and also, the Vikings have not agreed to let Jones interview, at least not yet. Also Aubrey Pleasant hasn't interviewed yet either, so Jones could be a back upcontingency, or an attempt to get inside info on the Vikings too. All this to say that this silence doesn't mean Allen is out of the running, and maybe the Rooney rule is the reason for the silence/delay in the absence of info about Allen being active elsewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 Remember the rules require at least 2 minorities be interviewed for all coordinator positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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