Sell me on someone - anyone - at #10

[AZ54]

6 minutes ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:

I really think unless they have Avery high grade on an LT or DE there, or they have the TE or RB super elite - they are best moving down (but they need another team willing to move up).

The one wildcard - is there an elite LB or DB available? If so - even if not a position of need, I can see Bear surprising us there.

 

But given needs and depth (with lack of elite likely at 10)…if they can get something to move back 7-10 spots, I think it would be worth it. Than take the back or move back one more time and take Hampton and than go with a TE, Guard, Tackle (Simmons) and a linemen or two with the slew of 2nd and 3rds they would have from moving back. 

There is a lot of agreement on that strategy but trades require two teams to agree.  This thread is about what we should do if we’re stuck at 10.  I’m curious who you would write down on your draft card?

[DABEARSDABOMB]

5 minutes ago, AZ54 said:

There is a lot of agreement on that strategy but trades require two teams to agree.  This thread is about what we should do if we’re stuck at 10.  I’m curious who you would write down on your draft card?

I agree. It would take a team who needs a wideout or has a high grade on an interior linemen or a better grade on one of the tackles than the Bears (imo). 

[Stinger226]

6 hours ago, AZ54 said:

There is a lot of agreement on that strategy but trades require two teams to agree.  This thread is about what we should do if we’re stuck at 10.  I’m curious who you would write down on your draft card?

If we stay at 10 BPA seems more than likely. I think Membou is the second OL off the board,then Banks- Booker. I don't think Pearce fits Allen's defense so would they grab Grant or Nolen, the next best DTs. It could be Jeanty or Warren but I don't think they will do that. There's a few WRs slated top 10 but we have 2 star WRs, are we  going add a third to detract from them? I don't think so. The CB Will Johnson may be the wildcard and replace Stevenson that still has something to prove.

[adam]

I know OL should always be considered, but Poles did draft Amegadjie with a 3rd round pick last year. Knowing his rookie year was going to basically be a red shirt season coming back from injury, he should still be penciled in as the primary backup OT and as the potential replacement for Jones if they don't extend him.

If that is the plan, I doubt the Bears draft an OL in the first 3 picks, but I could be wrong.

[Stinger226]

If it really is BPA, likely it's not a OL at # 10. With all spots covered as starters in the OL (assumed they let Braxton/ Kiran play out), it's probably DL ( Jarrett is 32, Billings has one year left, Pickens hasn't shown up yet) . Will Johnson should be there and Stevenson has questions and Gordon has one more year left. 

We need to draft one quality OL in the top 3 that is multi positional. We have to add to the OL room every year. That's how you sustain success. 

DE is always a possibility but a couple highly rated Stewart and Williams leave me with concerns. 

I would be okay if we took Grant at 10. I think a Landon Jackson could be a perfect fit but 10 is too early.

[jason]

On 3/13/2025 at 3:34 PM, adam said:

The Bears last 3 first-round picks are all on offense. I know that is not the highest priority, but to have a balanced roster, that probably needs to even out over time. Like if they have equal grades on two different players, one offense, one defense, I would not be surprised if they went defense at #10 (or after a trade back). 

I know what you’re saying, but odds don’t work like that. It’s like betting roulette red because it’s roughly 50/50 and the last roll was black. 

The D has been decent to good, and the O has been horrible. Keep drafting O until that side of the ball scares opponents. Just once in my adult life I’d like to see a Bears offense that is consistently in the top tier of the league.

[dawhizz]

The more I think about it, the pick that would make the most sense to me conceptually is Jalen Walker from Georgia. With Sanborn gone, there isn’t a clear starter with Edmunds and Edwards, and Walker could be a LB in early downs and then rush from the edge on passing downs, plus could be a real asset as a pass rusher from the LB spot whenever Allen wants to deploy him. 

[Mongo3451]

38 minutes ago, dawhizz said:

The more I think about it, the pick that would make the most sense to me conceptually is Jalen Walker from Georgia. With Sanborn gone, there isn’t a clear starter with Edmunds and Edwards, and Walker could be a LB in early downs and then rush from the edge on passing downs, plus could be a real asset as a pass rusher from the LB spot whenever Allen wants to deploy him. 

Interesting.  I watched an interview with him last week.  He talked about being a weapon in any defense.  For some dang reason I never put him with us.  I like him...

[dawhizz]

23 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:

Interesting.  I watched an interview with him last week.  He talked about being a weapon in any defense.  For some dang reason I never put him with us.  I like him...

Yeah. I don’t know how I feel about all that resource allocation to LB after signing Edwards and Edmunds last year and now committing a top ten pick to what is nominally an off ball LB, but it’s the easiest way for me to justify taking any of the edge players early if I think he can also offer early down value and move around and even be a nickel defender on TEs plus be a threat to rush. I don’t think you can take a small edge top ten and expect him to play every down in the Allen defense, and as I’ve said I’m underwhelmed by the production of the bigger edges being projected in the early first round. 
 

I’ll mention that I’ve heard Jihaad Campbell as a first round guy who offers a similar skill set to Walker so I’m interested to look more at him. 

[BearFan PHX]

It's good that we are looking at all sorts of positions. It means our roster is pretty solid, it means we wont have to reach for a position, and it means other teams dont know what we will do either. We are in good shape heading into the draft.

Those two second rounders are going to bear fruit too. They could go anywhere.

[Mongo3451]

4 hours ago, dawhizz said:

Yeah. I don’t know how I feel about all that resource allocation to LB after signing Edwards and Edmunds last year and now committing a top ten pick to what is nominally an off ball LB, but it’s the easiest way for me to justify taking any of the edge players early if I think he can also offer early down value and move around and even be a nickel defender on TEs plus be a threat to rush. I don’t think you can take a small edge top ten and expect him to play every down in the Allen defense, and as I’ve said I’m underwhelmed by the production of the bigger edges being projected in the early first round. 
 

I’ll mention that I’ve heard Jihaad Campbell as a first round guy who offers a similar skill set to Walker so I’m interested to look more at him. 

The more I think about it, it may be a fit.  Fill the Sanborn role until they go into nickel, then turn him loose at EDGE.  If he could be a 10 sack 75 tackle guy, that would be great.

[AZ54]

We don't need a skinny little ILB, just take the highest graded DT in the draft at 10 (per NFL.com).  I did watch some highlights of Jalon Walker plus an entire game against Alabama.  I like him, just not at 10 and probably not in the first round at all given our needs.   As much as I like his quick twitch around the pocket IMO he's more of an accessory pass rusher.  He gets controlled a lot around the LOS.  If I'm dropping back to around 20 and I go edge i'd be taking James Pearce Jr. who also has enough athleticism to drop into coverage a bit but offers more at the LOS.   If we have the horses up front on the Dline we don't need a 1st Rd ILB behind them to shine.  

 

[DABEARSDABOMB]

Myles Williams or Cambell are who I really want at 10. If I can’t get one of them - I’m moving down for Simmons. 

[BearFan PHX]

28 minutes ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:

Myles Williams or Cambell are who I really want at 10. If I can’t get one of them - I’m moving down for Simmons. 

no love for Kelvin Banks Jr?

[Stinger226]

1 hour ago, AZ54 said:

We don't need a skinny little ILB, just take the highest graded DT in the draft at 10 (per NFL.com).  I did watch some highlights of Jalon Walker plus an entire game against Alabama.  I like him, just not at 10 and probably not in the first round at all given our needs.   As much as I like his quick twitch around the pocket IMO he's more of an accessory pass rusher.  He gets controlled a lot around the LOS.  If I'm dropping back to around 20 and I go edge i'd be taking James Pearce Jr. who also has enough athleticism to drop into coverage a bit but offers more at the LOS.   If we have the horses up front on the Dline we don't need a 1st Rd ILB behind them to shine.  

 

I always like your sensabilty. LB? That's never going to happen. We could upgrade at many positions but LB isn't a weakness. We are not into upgrading strengths in our process timeline. I totally believe DT is the spot to get a true difference maker. I would take any of those DTs, 3 of 4 should be there.

Baun was a prove it LB last year for eagles, played great on the cheap and got some money now. We are going over the skis drafting to strengths. 

I still think we add a high profile multiple position OL in the second round to build the depth going forward. 

The only OL at 10 is Campbell and no one else. Simmons and Banks are the only true LTs and I don't think valued at 10. Now if we move back, anything is on the table because we also add picks.

RB is very deep and a waste at 10 for a back that will fit in a 2 back system. Trenches still has to be the priority for the first few picks. If we draft a RB, TE, WR, I'll like it but it can't be the priority. 

Here's a video that touches on all of thoughts. Zimmerman and Brad Biggs. Very interesting 

 

[DABEARSDABOMB]

41 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

no love for Kelvin Banks Jr?

I haven’t watched the tape - so my opinion is purely based on some oline scouts I tend to like who seem to question his ability to stick at LT. I don’t see that same question with Campbell. 
 

But being clear - I still have homework to do and could change my mind. 

[BearFan PHX]

24 minutes ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:

I haven’t watched the tape - so my opinion is purely based on some oline scouts I tend to like who seem to question his ability to stick at LT. I don’t see that same question with Campbell. 
 

But being clear - I still have homework to do and could change my mind. 

fair enough - I wasnt looking to disagree, just wondering why. After watching tape I totally soured on Campbell, and Banks looked better to me. ANd like you, Im looking for more data, which is why I asked

[DABEARSDABOMB]

38 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

fair enough - I wasnt looking to disagree, just wondering why. After watching tape I totally soured on Campbell, and Banks looked better to me. ANd like you, Im looking for more data, which is why I asked

Simmons is the one I actually like the most but obviously coming back from injury. Reality is I can get on board with anyone they think will stick at LT and be good. Don’t want to take a guard prospect in round 1 given the other moves they made. 
 

Missouri tackle has very good athleticism if they think he can grade out at LT as well. 
 

Would also be fine with Mason Graham at 10 but can’t see him there. 

[DABEARSDABOMB]

And as importantly I have zero interest in a RB at 10. Zero. 
 

The Boston College DE had a ton of sacks and on field production as well which I like. But Mykel Williams tools are elite - he is young, production not quite there but I think he has Chandler Jones upside. 
 

 

[AZ54]

10 minutes ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:

And as importantly I have zero interest in a RB at 10. Zero. 
 

The Boston College DE had a ton of sacks and on field production as well which I like. But Mykel Williams tools are elite - he is young, production not quite there but I think he has Chandler Jones upside. 
 

 

He appears to be lazy on some plays.  Or maybe going through the motions is a better description.  I wonder what happens when he has $20 million to spend?   

[DABEARSDABOMB]

10 minutes ago, AZ54 said:

He appears to be lazy on some plays.  Or maybe going through the motions is a better description.  I wonder what happens when he has $20 million to spend?   

Are you referring to Mykel? 

[AZ54]

6 minutes ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:

Are you referring to Mykel? 

Yes.  Let me add I’ve watched Georgia vs Texas and Alabama.  I see too many plays where he’s just blocked. There’s no counter move.  Whereas someone like Scourton just keeps battling. 

[DABEARSDABOMB]

6 minutes ago, AZ54 said:

Yes

He’s 20 so I think question is whether it is maturity or not. But haven’t heard any major knocks. Physical specimen who should be a 3 down end. Very good athlete and he is massive. Great fit for Allen’s scheme. 30 percent of his tackles were for a loss. 

[DABEARSDABOMB]

20 minutes ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:

He’s 20 so I think question is whether it is maturity or not. But haven’t heard any major knocks. Physical specimen who should be a 3 down end. Very good athlete and he is massive. Great fit for Allen’s scheme. 30 percent of his tackles were for a loss. 

The other thing about Williams - he got hurt his first game last year and played basically the entire season on one healthy leg. Could have not played but he gritted through it and still played well. Tells me he has grit, toughness and character. 

[DABEARSDABOMB]

In my ideal world - I could draft Mykel, Simmons and Treveyon Henderson with my first 3 picks. Mykel being a trade down and add grab and Simmons being someone we move back into back half of round 1 for (using some of the capital from our original trade down). 
 

Henderson is the back I’m leaning too - he’s got speed and good receiving skills out of backfield - plus still plenty of mileage left. 
 

I think all 3 of those picks have legit blue chip tools - all have some level of risk as well. 
 

Note: Bears are perfect for Simmons. Jones and Kiran can push each other while Simmons eases in - Kiran can always kick into guard as I recall some teams liked him there as well.