BearFan PHX Posted Thursday at 12:01 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 12:01 AM This is excellent news. We really are going to be a team for several years. Edwards has been playing very well. I wonder how long Edmunds will stick around, we are paying him a fortune. He's got all the measurables, but his production has been lacking. Maybe the new scheme and coaches will unlock him, otherwise, his days could be numbered - probably after this year. It gets very cheap to cut him next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted Thursday at 12:21 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 12:21 AM Edmonds hasn't played up to the contract but he hasn't been playing bad. Allen may be the answer to getting our monies worth. The only left is to resign Thuney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted Thursday at 12:43 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 12:43 AM I love this move. Edwards has played above his current deal, now locked up for 3 more years. The 2026 Defense has Sweat, Odeyingbo, Jarrett, Dexter, Edmunds, Edwards, Gordon, Johnson, and Stevenson. Safety is the only position without a starter signed thru at least 2026. Edmunds probably a cap casualty, but that is a ton of continuity on the defensive side of the ball. Safety may be a higher priority with Brisker's health and Byard's age. The entire starting offense is also signed thru 2026 besides Thuney and the LT. So right now 9 of 11 on offense and defense signed thru 2026. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted Thursday at 12:48 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 12:48 AM 7 minutes ago, adam said: I love this move. Edwards has played above his current deal, now locked up for 3 more years. The 2026 Defense has Sweat, Odeyingbo, Jarrett, Dexter, Edmunds, Edwards, Gordon, Johnson, and Stevenson. Safety is the only position without a starter signed thru at least 2026. Edmunds probably a cap casualty, but that is a ton of continuity on the defensive side of the ball. Safety may be a higher priority with Brisker's health and Byard's age. The entire starting offense is also signed thru 2026 besides Thuney and the LT. So right now 9 of 11 on offense and defense signed thru 2026. Poles has identified the core players and sign them. Brisker's health is the key to need at S , if healthy, he will be here next year also. If Byard plays well, he did last year, they could bring him back. Backups are solid NFL players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted Thursday at 12:56 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 12:56 AM Good signing with solid value. Same with Gordon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted Thursday at 02:29 AM Author Report Share Posted Thursday at 02:29 AM It's good to have a team play together for multiple years too. thats a talent multiplier. I think Poles has a very clear plan for how to do things and I think hes done a great job at that, he just sucks at picking coaches and players LOL but with support from the staff it should all work out well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted Thursday at 02:31 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 02:31 AM 2 hours ago, BearFan PHX said: This is excellent news. We really are going to be a team for several years. Edwards has been playing very well. I wonder how long Edmunds will stick around, we are paying him a fortune. He's got all the measurables, but his production has been lacking. Maybe the new scheme and coaches will unlock him, otherwise, his days could be numbered - probably after this year. It gets very cheap to cut him next year. I believe I read the Edmunds had to play deep, like Urlacher in Flus's D. Which would have taken him out of the immediate action for runs since the D lines gap responsibilities would funnel the ball to Edward's. Allen's D is ran different and supposedly Edmunds and Edward's will be open to attack the ball. The DBs would be more man It will be interesting to watch this form. It might fit Stevenson and Johnson better too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted Thursday at 03:22 AM Author Report Share Posted Thursday at 03:22 AM 54 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said: I believe I read the Edmunds had to play deep, like Urlacher in Flus's D. Which would have taken him out of the immediate action for runs since the D lines gap responsibilities would funnel the ball to Edward's. Allen's D is ran different and supposedly Edmunds and Edward's will be open to attack the ball. The DBs would be more man It will be interesting to watch this form. It might fit Stevenson and Johnson better too. I always wanted Edmunds to play the Urlacher role as long as we were playing cover 2, but I saw Flus always had him at even depth with Edmunds. Like a perfect zone on a chalkboard - which only works for feeble minds like Flus'. I don't think they used him well at all. So I have hope that in the new scheme he will thrive. I wanted us to draft him over Roquan that year. He has all the tools, but he has to prove it on the field, cuz his production has been awful. There's reason for hope this year for Edmunds, but he hasnt shown it yet, so it's on him to step up, or move on after this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted Thursday at 03:32 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 03:32 AM 2 hours ago, Mongo3451 said: Good signing with solid value. Same with Gordon. Have you seen the contract details? I'm surprised by this. Edwards is too slow to cover on the boundary so this makes me wonder if the plan is to move him inside...that's if Allen doesn't care about a MLB who can cover the deep middle. I can't say I know anything about his scheme other than what's said here I just find this a curious move for an aging but still decent LB. He's not going to get faster after he turns 30. The plan here would be to cut Edmunds and draft his replacement, or sign a value FA. Veterans want to play for us now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted Thursday at 04:23 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 04:23 AM Wow...never thought he'd get that much money.... 2yr $20mil. https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2025/4/16/24410177/chicago-bears-roster-tj-edwards-extension-2026-nfl-free-agency Estimating a $10mil cap hit/yr puts us at $44mil in cap space for 2026 with 30 players on the roster according to OTC. Cutting Edmunds gets us back to $59mil in cap space. I expect Thuney gets a big chunk but we can still have some fun next offseason. The question is does LT also get a big chunk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted Thursday at 05:44 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 05:44 AM 2 hours ago, AZ54 said: Have you seen the contract details? I'm surprised by this. Edwards is too slow to cover on the boundary so this makes me wonder if the plan is to move him inside...that's if Allen doesn't care about a MLB who can cover the deep middle. I can't say I know anything about his scheme other than what's said here I just find this a curious move for an aging but still decent LB. He's not going to get faster after he turns 30. The plan here would be to cut Edmunds and draft his replacement, or sign a value FA. Veterans want to play for us now. Any player addition now on defense is with DAs blessing.i don't know that much about DAs to say who is and isn't going to be effective. If we go by value, he was the best signing Poles has made since he's been here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted Thursday at 01:51 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 01:51 PM 10 hours ago, AZ54 said: Have you seen the contract details? I'm surprised by this. Edwards is too slow to cover on the boundary so this makes me wonder if the plan is to move him inside...that's if Allen doesn't care about a MLB who can cover the deep middle. I can't say I know anything about his scheme other than what's said here I just find this a curious move for an aging but still decent LB. He's not going to get faster after he turns 30. The plan here would be to cut Edmunds and draft his replacement, or sign a value FA. Veterans want to play for us now. Yes, on the contract details. I'm confused on your concern with this signing. He's our leading tackler and covers the area you say he's too slow for. As far as Edmunds is concerned; I would bring him in for a pay cut or outright cut. He quit on the team last year, so that showed the football world his character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted Thursday at 04:57 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 04:57 PM Last year was a shit show, everyone gets a fresh start with new coaches. Lots of people quit last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted Thursday at 06:42 PM Author Report Share Posted Thursday at 06:42 PM Even without quitting Edmunds has failed to live up to his massive potential, both here and in Buffalo. He has this year to show otherwise in a new scheme, but he is on a prove it or lose it probation. Im not betting against him, but he has to show it this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted Thursday at 06:57 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 06:57 PM 5 hours ago, Mongo3451 said: Yes, on the contract details. I'm confused on your concern with this signing. He's our leading tackler and covers the area you say he's too slow for. As far as Edmunds is concerned; I would bring him in for a pay cut or outright cut. He quit on the team last year, so that showed the football world his character. For sure we disagree. I see him chasing from behind when routes go downfield. Love him within 10 yards of the LOS. If our pass rush is good enough we don’t have to worry about double moves on routes from RBs then he’s good. Staying in phase with RBs downfield was something Roquan was good at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted Thursday at 08:02 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 08:02 PM 1 hour ago, AZ54 said: For sure we disagree. I see him chasing from behind when routes go downfield. Love him within 10 yards of the LOS. If our pass rush is good enough we don’t have to worry about double moves on routes from RBs then he’s good. Staying in phase with RBs downfield was something Roquan was good at. OLB's aren't meant to cover RB's downfield for very long without safety help. Using Roquan as an example is a little off since he's the ILB, with the primary responsibility of the inline TE. Varied schemes and coverage can be an outlier in responsibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted Thursday at 10:03 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:03 PM 7 hours ago, Mongo3451 said: Yes, on the contract details. I'm confused on your concern with this signing. He's our leading tackler and covers the area you say he's too slow for. As far as Edmunds is concerned; I would bring him in for a pay cut or outright cut. He quit on the team last year, so that showed the football world his character. The talk is to move Edward's to Mike and Edmunds to Will. Edmunds may not like it, but his size and athleticism are better for coverage (that Will LBs do more in Allen's D). As for drafting someone high to be the 3rd LB to replace Sanborn, it's not a priority in a D that is in Nickel 60%. They will use a 7th rd pick to get a backer like Nick Martin, Oklahoma St who can blitz. Kyler Gordon will see more time on the field being that CB/S/LB making plays like CJ Gardner-Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted Thursday at 10:17 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:17 PM 19 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said: The talk is to move Edward's to Mike and Edmunds to Will. Edmunds may not like it, but his size and athleticism are better for coverage (that Will LBs do more in Allen's D). As for drafting someone high to be the 3rd LB to replace Sanborn, it's not a priority in a D that is in Nickel 60%. They will use a 7th rd pick to get a backer like Nick Martin, Oklahoma St who can blitz. Kyler Gordon will see more time on the field being that CB/S/LB making plays like CJ Gardner-Johnson. I'd like to read the article. Do you have source or link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted Thursday at 11:05 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 11:05 PM 2 hours ago, Mongo3451 said: I'd like to read the article. Do you have source or link? It was talked about on the score this afternoon. Not sure if Clay Harbor was in on that but he was on to talk draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted Friday at 12:15 AM Report Share Posted Friday at 12:15 AM 4 hours ago, Mongo3451 said: OLB's aren't meant to cover RB's downfield for very long without safety help. Using Roquan as an example is a little off since he's the ILB, with the primary responsibility of the inline TE. Varied schemes and coverage can be an outlier in responsibility. Which in my post I alluded to the fact this contract makes that something I expect Dennis Allen to do with TJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted Friday at 06:19 AM Report Share Posted Friday at 06:19 AM 11 hours ago, AZ54 said: For sure we disagree. I see him chasing from behind when routes go downfield. Love him within 10 yards of the LOS. If our pass rush is good enough we don’t have to worry about double moves on routes from RBs then he’s good. Staying in phase with RBs downfield was something Roquan was good at. Are you describing a zone Def? The other teams were targeting the gap in the zone where the underneath guy passed responsbity to the down field zones. We are predominantly man this year and I expect the underneath players to engage WRs right away instead of letting WRs get to their routes. More aggressive, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted Friday at 08:16 AM Author Report Share Posted Friday at 08:16 AM I dont think we will be predominantly man this year? I just think we will have all kinds of looks, cover 2 and cover 3 are complimentary when you go back and forth. if they call a play to get the seam in cover 2 for example, in cover 3 theres a guy right there. I think its about mixing it up and bringing pressure more than just pure man and blitzing every down. i expect hybrids too. the good teams run those and they may not be fully sound but theyre confusing as hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted Friday at 12:53 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 12:53 PM 4 hours ago, BearFan PHX said: I dont think we will be predominantly man this year? I just think we will have all kinds of looks, cover 2 and cover 3 are complimentary when you go back and forth. if they call a play to get the seam in cover 2 for example, in cover 3 theres a guy right there. I think its about mixing it up and bringing pressure more than just pure man and blitzing every down. i expect hybrids too. the good teams run those and they may not be fully sound but theyre confusing as hell Of course they will mix coverages but I read somewhere DA runs 70% man. I'll try to find the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted Friday at 06:46 PM Author Report Share Posted Friday at 06:46 PM 5 hours ago, Stinger226 said: Of course they will mix coverages but I read somewhere DA runs 70% man. I'll try to find the article. yeah, please do I had no idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted Saturday at 05:40 AM Report Share Posted Saturday at 05:40 AM Solid 2 year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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