Poles war room

[Stinger226]

Needs: IOL, depth future starter 

            OT,  depth, competition at LT

            QB, none 

             RB, duel back role starter 

              WR, added depth, speed 

               TE, depth #2 (weapon)

               DE, edge ( starter capable)

               DT, depth ( NT) starter                              capable 

               LB, depth future starter 

               CB, depth

                 S, depth future starter 

Priority: DE - RB- LT- NT - S- WR- TE - LB 

6 blue chip players: Hunter - Graham - Walker - Jeanty - Warren - Carter 

2 top 10 QBS Ward and Sanders 

Next 6: Campbell - Membou - Banks - Golden -  McMillan - Barron 

Next 6- S Stewart - Loveland -M Williams -Emmanwori- Nolen - Pierce 

If a blue chip player falls, they take him. That will determine the next 3 picks. 

Trade back extra 2nd round pick 5 top 72  picks for need.

Top 100 big board 

OL: Campbell, Membou, Banks, Conerly, Ersery, Simmons , Grant, Belton, Pierce 

WR: Golden, jaylon Noel, Tai Fenton, Kyle Williams, Jalon Lane , Tre Harris 

RB: Jeanty, Hampton, Johnson, Henderson, Judkins, Skattebo, Brashard Smith

TE: Warren, Loveland, Arroyo, Taylor, Ferguson , Conyers 

 

 

[BearFan PHX]

We need a bonafide starter at LT. That position is not covered.

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1 hour ago, BearFan PHX said:

We need a bonafide starter at LT. That position is not covered.

You're entitled to your opinion, some people don't agree with you. I don't think the bears agree as a #10 LT pick is necessary. They will take a prospect to add competition. 

They had a starting LT that statistically is average. They drafted a 3 rd round pick last year to compete with Braxton. They will draft a 2 nd  round LT prospect to mix in. 

Campbell and Membou probably aren't pro bowl types at LT. Banks can be a starter but how much better of a prospect is he over Kiran A? I could be totally in left field on this, but I think the bears don't prioritize LT with the prospects this year. 

The OL  coach spoke yesterday and talked well of both LTs on the team and was asked about upgrading the position. He said the OTs positions are easier to give help with. WR, TE , RB for support but also said they are looking at OTs to draft.

Does any of that sound like it's an emergency to get a LT? It doesn't to me. 

[BearFan PHX]

So of course we disagree, and that's cool.

But I think the more the Bears talk about how happy they are with Braxton here a week before the draft, the better the chance of drafting an OT early - it's lying season, and if they werent looking at OT theyd want everyone to think they were?

Doesnt prove anything of course, and even if it did, I have no idea how the draft falls, and if Jeanty is there whether hes the pick anyway even if I am right about LT. Id expect Ersery in the 2nd then, if he's still available, but even if Banks is everything I say he is, he still isn't the only player with talent in the draft.

And this kind of goes back to a (friendly) debate you and I were having a few months ago, where i said they revamp the whole OL except for Wright, and you said theyd keep Tevin, and Bates would be healthy and Braxton would be LT. So far theyve overhauled a lot of it. Let's see if they finish that job.

I just dont think that you can add Kiran and Braxton together because they dont both play at once. Whoever you put out there has to block that blind side, and Jones has shown he is susceptible to bull rushes, and you saw how Caleb was running for his life last year, not just from Braxton of course, but from all of them.

So I think I predicted 4 new OL starters, and you had 1 or 2, and we are at 3 right now, so we'll see if it continues. I think the disciplined thing to do is to replace Jones, but I get the allure of Jeanty if he is there, so it may not be with 10, but probably by our last pick of the 2nd round. But I cant see passing ojn Banks for Warren or something like that. Maybe a DL is worth it. But not because we dont need a LT, but because someone else might just be a dominant player you cant pass up at 10?

But in no way do i think we are set with Jones who may not even be ready for camp with his injury.

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2 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

So of course we disagree, and that's cool.

But I think the more the Bears talk about how happy they are with Braxton here a week before the draft, the better the chance of drafting an OT early - it's lying season, and if they werent looking at OT theyd want everyone to think they were?

Doesnt prove anything of course, and even if it did, I have no idea how the draft falls, and if Jeanty is there whether hes the pick anyway even if I am right about LT. Id expect Ersery in the 2nd then, if he's still available, but even if Banks is everything I say he is, he still isn't the only player with talent in the draft.

And this kind of goes back to a (friendly) debate you and I were having a few months ago, where i said they revamp the whole OL except for Wright, and you said theyd keep Tevin, and Bates would be healthy and Braxton would be LT. So far theyve overhauled a lot of it. Let's see if they finish that job.

I just dont think that you can add Kiran and Braxton together because they dont both play at once. Whoever you put out there has to block that blind side, and Jones has shown he is susceptible to bull rushes, and you saw how Caleb was running for his life last year, not just from Braxton of course, but from all of them.

So I think I predicted 4 new OL starters, and you had 1 or 2, and we are at 3 right now, so we'll see if it continues. I think the disciplined thing to do is to replace Jones, but I get the allure of Jeanty if he is there, so it may not be with 10, but probably by our last pick of the 2nd round. But I cant see passing ojn Banks for Warren or something like that. Maybe a DL is worth it. But not because we dont need a LT, but because someone else might just be a dominant player you cant pass up at 10?

But in no way do i think we are set with Jones who may not even be ready for camp with his injury.

I  did and then they signed 3 IOL and it changed the conversation. I've never said Braxton is the goat and we don't need to draft anyone. My comments are related to Kiran A already being on the team and inline to take over if Braxton doesn't get better. I think they draft a true LT but just not in the first round. Jones leaves after this year, Kiran next up draftee gives him competition. 

Question, do you think whoever the LT is , they will play better with an all pro next to him?

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Defense positions: big board 

DE-  Jaylon Walker,Tyrek Williams, James Pierce, Shemar Stewart, , Landon Jackson, Nic Scourton, JT Tumoloau, jack Sawyer, princely Umanmielen, Bradyn Swinson 

DT: Mason Graham, Derrick Harmon, Kenneth Grant, Walter Nolen, Darius Alexander, Alfred Collins, Omar Norman Lott

LB ' Danny Srutsman, 

CB: 

S: Xavier Watts, Kevin Winston, Andrew Mukuba, Lathan Ransom, Jaylon Reed