Want _dont want _ surprise and what they will do

[Stinger226]

I want)  a great pass rusher, that would add so much to the defense, could be DE or DT. Tyrek Williams or James Pierce 

Don't want) Shemar Stewart, I hate players with no production 

Surprise) Matt Golden, this team is missing that one speed merchant Ben had in Detroit. He is now rated in the teens.

They do) trade back and get Kenneth Grant or Walter Nolen. I think they need one more rotation guy at DT. Billings -Jarret-Dexter , missing the 4 th DT 

[AZ54]

From a true BPA value standpoint, and after all I've seen and read over the last few months I'd have to say Mathew Golden makes the most sense at 10.   Having a legit 3rd WR is a need as well.  Rome, DJ, and Golden is an insane trio for Caleb to throw to.   My heart still prefers Nolen or even Wiliams, with a fallback to Banks since I want to build the trenches.   I'll probably change my mind tomorrow. 

 

[Stinger226]

I looked at the speed of all our WRs and only Duvernay is under 4.4. 4.39. I had seen Golden ran a 4.25 at his pro day and 4.29 at the combine. If he wants speed and  another weapon, Golden is easily the choice. There's only a couple speed WRs he is the second highest rated wideout after McMillan.  TE, DE, RB ,DT and OL has good choices in the 2nd and 3 rd. Also Draft Buzz gives him a 67% blocking grade, something Ben said was necessary for his WRs.

I have mentioned before to not sleep on this as our pick.

[BearFan PHX]

There are several special players like Jeanty, Golden, maybe some DL that may be worth taking no matter what. They are just that good.

I think we should have done something in FA at LT if that's the way we're going, but i cant tell anyone that taking Jeanty or Golden is a bad idea. They are studs. 100% - If we trade UP for Jeanty, we will all cry, but if he turns out to be Walter Payton 2.0 we will all be really glad it happened. I can see it.

But I also think LT is a glaring need, and giving Caleb consistent time unmolested for the next 5 years is a really good idea too.

Jeanty is a stud, but there are HBs to be had in the 2nd round who are great. I like Kaleb Johnson personally, but Henderson is OK too, and Skatebo is pretty fun to watch.

I dont think there will be any starting LTs let by say pick 26 or earlier. 20 to be safe.

[Stinger226]

2 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

There are several special players like Jeanty, Golden, maybe some DL that may be worth taking no matter what. They are just that good.

I think we should have done something in FA at LT if that's the way we're going, but i cant tell anyone that taking Jeanty or Golden is a bad idea. They are studs. 100% - If we trade UP for Jeanty, we will all cry, but if he turns out to be Walter Payton 2.0 we will all be really glad it happened. I can see it.

But I also think LT is a glaring need, and giving Caleb consistent time unmolested for the next 5 years is a really good idea too.

Jeanty is a stud, but there are HBs to be had in the 2nd round who are great. I like Kaleb Johnson personally, but Henderson is OK too, and Skatebo is pretty fun to watch.

I dont think there will be any starting LTs let by say pick 26 or earlier. 20 to be safe.

To be honest, there's many different players to be happy about if we get them. When the dust settles, I want 4 good players with our first 4 picks.if they screw that up we won't know for a few years. I'm hopeful they get it right.

[Lucky Luciano]

5 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

There are several special players like Jeanty, Golden, maybe some DL that may be worth taking no matter what. They are just that good.
 

there is NO way we draft a WR at 10. we would be wasting either this pick or last years in odu. that would mean we have 2 top ten receiver contracts coming due at nearly the same time. with all the other holes to fill, WR this high is NOT one we need that high. if they do that they are insane.

[ASHKUM BEAR]

2 hours ago, Lucky Luciano said:

there is NO way we draft a WR at 10. we would be wasting either this pick or last years in odu. that would mean we have 2 top ten receiver contracts coming due at nearly the same time. with all the other holes to fill, WR this high is NOT one we need that high. if they do that they are insane.

I tend to agree, then you look at if they draft a 3rd round guy that blows the league up and they are in a worse situation were both Odunze and the rookie contract is up the same year.  

The only way they go round 1 WR is if they have that player graded as special and will add points.   

If the QB cannot sit in the pocket, then it doesn't matter who is running routes bc the QB will be scrambling like the last 3 or more years.