DaBearSox Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Probably the dumbest Idea I've ever heard of. DING DING DING I understand you're just throwing it out there, but Hester who scored a high % (for one player) of our total points this year (if someone wants to do the math)....for Anderson (a really unproven QB with barely any experience) and a 2nd and 3rd round pick who wont contribute for 2-3 years???? Just the field position alone is worth keeping him. Remember the year before we drafted him when our kick returners were complete shit and we were stuck starting on the 15 every drive??? Thank God we had TJ that year to get us out of the hole 25% of the time.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balta1701-A Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 It's also worth considering that we still really have no idea what Hester's ceiling is. If Hester's ceiling is "The best kick returner in the history of the NFL", then that's a solid guy to have. Top 10 value as others have said. But what happens if he finally starts picking up some of the WR stuff? What happens if he's not only the best kick returner in the history of the NFL but he starts giving your team 5-10 touchdowns a season out of the WR slot? Hester in the WR role is pretty much as unproven as any draft pick right now. In a couple years, he could be very good at 2 slots, and then what is he worth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 It's also worth considering that we still really have no idea what Hester's ceiling is. If Hester's ceiling is "The best kick returner in the history of the NFL", then that's a solid guy to have. Top 10 value as others have said. But what happens if he finally starts picking up some of the WR stuff? What happens if he's not only the best kick returner in the history of the NFL but he starts giving your team 5-10 touchdowns a season out of the WR slot? Hester in the WR role is pretty much as unproven as any draft pick right now. In a couple years, he could be very good at 2 slots, and then what is he worth? My only worry with Hester is if he starts playing WR more, will that degrade his return abilities? Right now he is fresh on runbacks, but if he starts taking more hits, will he be less effective on returns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixote Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 I look at it in a different way. Instead of asking if now is the time to trade Hester, I think it is time to ask if it is time to rework his contract. Hester is a tremendous ST player who "MAY" become an important piece of the puzzle on offense (the jury is still out). If he has a big year in the WR role this year his price to resign him goes soaring. If we can convince him to renew his contract now, we could possibly wind up with a real bargain. If he has a big year as WR we are in a win win situation. We have a valuable WR/KR at a bargain price or, if he becomes discontent knowing he blew it by resigning before emerging as a WR, because we resign him at a reasonable price, we could then get a huge return for him in trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Good idea Pix! I look at it in a different way. Instead of asking if now is the time to trade Hester, I think it is time to ask if it is time to rework his contract. Hester is a tremendous ST player who "MAY" become an important piece of the puzzle on offense (the jury is still out). If he has a big year in the WR role this year his price to resign him goes soaring. If we can convince him to renew his contract now, we could possibly wind up with a real bargain. If he has a big year as WR we are in a win win situation. We have a valuable WR/KR at a bargain price or, if he becomes discontent knowing he blew it by resigning before emerging as a WR, because we resign him at a reasonable price, we could then get a huge return for him in trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Good idea Pix! That is a good idea! :] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradjock Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 I look at it in a different way. Instead of asking if now is the time to trade Hester, I think it is time to ask if it is time to rework his contract. Hester is a tremendous ST player who "MAY" become an important piece of the puzzle on offense (the jury is still out). If he has a big year in the WR role this year his price to resign him goes soaring. If we can convince him to renew his contract now, we could possibly wind up with a real bargain. If he has a big year as WR we are in a win win situation. We have a valuable WR/KR at a bargain price or, if he becomes discontent knowing he blew it by resigning before emerging as a WR, because we resign him at a reasonable price, we could then get a huge return for him in trade. I think we'd all LOVE it if that happened but I can't see it happening. Isn't the uncapped year supposed to happen in 2010? I base that on what I've been reading from profootballtalk.com. Hester is already a super-star in this league. Imagine what will happen if he becomes a great WR??? More importantly, what will happen if Dan Snyder can become George Steinbrenner and buy everyone. How much is Hester worth when the spending limits are off??? In most cases I think guys are nuts to pass up big money deals to hold out for a little more. It's not worth the risk. But in Hester's case, his full potential is still untapped. We signed Urlacher to a huge deal well before his contract was set to expire. But at the time, he was a pro-bowl LB. How do you set a price tag on Hester right now? Like I said, I would LOVE to see it. I just don't think it'll happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 I think we'd all LOVE it if that happened but I can't see it happening. Isn't the uncapped year supposed to happen in 2010? I base that on what I've been reading from profootballtalk.com. Hester is already a super-star in this league. Imagine what will happen if he becomes a great WR??? More importantly, what will happen if Dan Snyder can become George Steinbrenner and buy everyone. How much is Hester worth when the spending limits are off??? In most cases I think guys are nuts to pass up big money deals to hold out for a little more. It's not worth the risk. But in Hester's case, his full potential is still untapped. We signed Urlacher to a huge deal well before his contract was set to expire. But at the time, he was a pro-bowl LB. How do you set a price tag on Hester right now? Like I said, I would LOVE to see it. I just don't think it'll happen. For a player though, all it takes is one hit and his career can be over. If Hester is offered a deal and passes on it, he is risking a lot more than he would be gaining by waiting for more money. There are more bad things that can happen than good. What if he flops as a WR and his return skills decline because teams scheme against him better? His value would drop. If he gets injured, his value will drop. So for him, it seems like now would be the best time to cash in. Also, if he does a 4 or 5 year deal and becomes an elite receiver, at least he will have a little peace of mind. Deal or No Deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDaddy Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Who do you expect to get for Hester then? Besides picks, that's all we could get. Listen, if teams start kicking to Rashied, or whoever we have back there on kicks with Hester, he's a non factor. If teams start punting it out of bounds every time, he's a non factor. Why not trade him now? His value will never be higher. Teams don't kick to Hester because they don't fear this offense. Hester will NEVER be a non factor because teams will kick out of bounds on kickoffs and try the same on punts. Either way, we start with excellent field position. If we ever get an offense that's capable of doing some damage to teams that kick away from Hester and give us great field position, that will stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balta1701-A Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Teams don't kick to Hester because they don't fear this offense. Hester will NEVER be a non factor because teams will kick out of bounds on kickoffs and try the same on punts. Either way, we start with excellent field position. If we ever get an offense that's capable of doing some damage to teams that kick away from Hester and give us great field position, that will stop. Btw, the Bears led the league last year in average starting field position. And in points scored on special teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDaddy Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Teams don't kick to Hester because they don't fear this offense. Hester will NEVER be a non factor because teams will kick out of bounds on kickoffs and try the same on punts. Either way, we start with excellent field position. If we ever get an offense that's capable of doing some damage to teams that kick away from Hester and give us great field position, that will stop. One other thing, Hester will continue to put asses in seast and help sell merchandise. He might just become the next face of the Bears. I do see some of the logic in trading Hester but you are assuming that we will never have an offense capable of making anyone pay for giving us that great field position. While that might be right, we have to try and believe our offensive woes will end. I know, there is no tooth fairy is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBearSox Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 One other thing, Hester will continue to put asses in seast and help sell merchandise. He might just become the next face of the Bears. I do see some of the logic in trading Hester but you are assuming that we will never have an offense capable of making anyone pay for giving us that great field position. While that might be right, we have to try and believe our offensive woes will end. I know, there is no tooth fairy is there? EXACTLY the #23 is Chicago's finest 1: Michael Jordan 2: Ryne Sandburg 3: Devin Hester (should take over that #2 position) 4: Robin Ventura 5: (insert blackhawk player here) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balta1701-A Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 4: Robin Ventura/2005 World Series MVP Jermaine Dye Fixed that for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted February 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 One other thing, Hester will continue to put asses in seast and help sell merchandise. He might just become the next face of the Bears. I do see some of the logic in trading Hester but you are assuming that we will never have an offense capable of making anyone pay for giving us that great field position. While that might be right, we have to try and believe our offensive woes will end. I know, there is no tooth fairy is there? Yeah b/c without Hester, we wouldn't sell out every game or sell jerseys, hats, or shirts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Yeah b/c without Hester, we wouldn't sell out every game or sell jerseys, hats, or shirts. Hester attracts the casual fans and helps sell merchandise to others outside of the Chicago area. I'm in Texas and the only 2 Bears jerseys I see down here are Urlacher and Hester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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