Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Just reported on SC the Vikings, Bears, and Falcons (I think ATL was the 3rd team) all want McNabb. However, a journalist from Philly says they will keep him 1 more year. To make the Eagles change their mind, what would you give up for him? I'd sign and trade Rex and trade our 2nd and one of our 3rds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Signing & trading Rex I don't think will work. Kolb is the starter there if McNabb goes, and Rex wants to start somewhere. But, I would love to see the Bears deal fo McNabb as long as they don't give away the bank. Just reported on SC the Vikings, Bears, and Falcons (I think ATL was the 3rd team) all want McNabb. However, a journalist from Philly says they will keep him 1 more year. To make the Eagles change their mind, what would you give up for him? I'd sign and trade Rex and trade our 2nd and one of our 3rds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LT2_3 Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Just reported on SC the Vikings, Bears, and Falcons (I think ATL was the 3rd team) all want McNabb. However, a journalist from Philly says they will keep him 1 more year. To make the Eagles change their mind, what would you give up for him? I'd sign and trade Rex and trade our 2nd and one of our 3rds. Why are you even including Rex in the discussion? He's a free agent. We have no claim on his rights whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balta1701-A Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Anything but the first rounder which they'd be sure to ask for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 McNabb might as well just stay there if he's staying for one more year, otherwise nobody will want him as an even older McNabb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyyle23 Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Just reported on SC the Vikings, Bears, and Falcons (I think ATL was the 3rd team) all want McNabb. However, a journalist from Philly says they will keep him 1 more year. To make the Eagles change their mind, what would you give up for him? I'd sign and trade Rex and trade our 2nd and one of our 3rds. How many times have you traded the Bears 2nd and 3rd Round picks (and either Anderson or Brown) since the season ended? Just wondering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted February 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 How many times have you traded the Bears 2nd and 3rd Round picks (and either Anderson or Brown) since the season ended? Just wondering Sorry I'm trying to think of ways to make this team a contender, jagbag. Fine. Since I haven't traded away our 6th and 7th, let me take back the 2nd/3rd trade idea for McNabb and say that we'll trade our 6th and 7th for McNabb. Yes, b/c that will definitley land him in Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted February 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Why are you even including Rex in the discussion? He's a free agent. We have no claim on his rights whatsoever. Sign Rex, 2 weeks later put him in the deal. Is that not possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Sign Rex, 2 weeks later put him in the deal. Is that not possible? Its not that its impossible its just that its way too unlikely. Before Rex would agree to sign here he would sit down and discuss his roll with JA and Lovie and I dont think they would lie to him and he wouldnt sign here if he knew he was gonna get traded right away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradjock Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Sign Rex, 2 weeks later put him in the deal. Is that not possible? Technically it's possible but highly unlikely. First off, we'd have to eat his signing bonus. Why would we do that? Secondly, why wouldn't the team we were dealing with just sign him? Why would they give up something to get him when he was just available? More importantly, NFL teams, more then any other sport, put a premium on "team." Telling a guy "we want you" then dumping his ass two weeks later is not good for team morale, and it's not good for the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Sign-and-Trade is an NBA arrangement with guarantees built in to protect both teams if the deal goes sour. Also, if the trade goes thru, it eliminates any penalty to the trader. The NFL has no such procedure. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyyle23 Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Sorry I'm trying to think of ways to make this team a contender, jagbag. Fine. Since I haven't traded away our 6th and 7th, let me take back the 2nd/3rd trade idea for McNabb and say that we'll trade our 6th and 7th for McNabb. Yes, b/c that will definitley land him in Chicago. LOL, jagbag. Ok. While you are trying to think of ways to make the team a contender, try and think within the rules, and try to understand you cannot sign and trade players as if this was the NBA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Philly might as well dump McNabb now, because they will not get as much for him next year. I just don't see the Bears having enough to deal with though. Also, can the Bears afford to give up high draft picks with so many holes to fill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBearSox Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 I don't really know how I feel about this...I think if we did make a move for him we would be giving up too much for an old man....and he'd probably just come to Chicago to die..... oh, and by the way.....you're all jagbags.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyyle23 Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 I don't really know how I feel about this...I think if we did make a move for him we would be giving up too much for an old man....and he'd probably just come to Chicago to die..... oh, and by the way.....you're all jagbags.... .......Of the Day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted February 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 LOL, jagbag. Ok. While you are trying to think of ways to make the team a contender, try and think within the rules, and try to understand you cannot sign and trade players as if this was the NBA. I know you can't sign and trade, but there isn't a rule against trying to sign a guy, then a few days/weeks later, trading him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bears 88 Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Man, is this guys name ever going to be put to rest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 There is no rule...but it really just doesn't happen in reality. I know you can't sign and trade, but there isn't a rule against trying to sign a guy, then a few days/weeks later, trading him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Give it time, the offseason's around the corner! Man, is this guys name ever going to be put to rest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfoligno Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 It's a pointless argument. There is technically no rule to prevent it, but in reality, you simply will not see it. There is ZERO reason for a player to agree to this. Rules were created in the NBA for such deals, but do not apply in football. Hey, there is no rule that says I can't hook up w/ Angelina Jolie, but...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Wait! My rule book says you can't hook up with Anjelina! Only I can! It's a pointless argument. There is technically no rule to prevent it, but in reality, you simply will not see it. There is ZERO reason for a player to agree to this. Rules were created in the NBA for such deals, but do not apply in football. Hey, there is no rule that says I can't hook up w/ Angelina Jolie, but...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfoligno Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Actually, I think my wife may have a rule book that also applies, and I am pretty sure there is a more harsh penalty for breaking her rule book than yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Boxer Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 I don't really know how I feel about this...I think if we did make a move for him we would be giving up too much for an old man....and he'd probably just come to Chicago to die..... oh, and by the way.....you're all jagbags.... what the hell is a jagbag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LT2_3 Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 I know you can't sign and trade, but there isn't a rule against trying to sign a guy, then a few days/weeks later, trading him. There is no rule that technically prevents it, but if the player doesn't like it, he just fails to report. Teams put contingency clasues in their trade deals about this. An example is Darwin Walker who was traded to the Bills and refused to report. Then the Bills made a deal with us, so he reported so they could complete the deal. If Walker had not liked that deal either, he would have reverted back to the Eagles. In this case, Grossman could fail to report and the whole trade would get cancelled. The bottom line is that you just can't treat players like commodites to that extreme. It's impractical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LT2_3 Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 what the hell is a jagbag? It's a local sports radioism. I believe it refers to the scrotum of someone who masturbates. I'm not exactly sure why that would be a bad thing inherently though, I've always figured it came from general 7th grade mentality of sports radio. I believe the translation into British would be a "wanker bollocks". Unfortunately that doesn't rhyme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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