PFT- Speculates on Briggs and Warner

[madlithuanian]

There's mention that SF isn't interested in Briggs. I figure it to be a smokescreen since they will get their hands slapped by the NFL soon I imagine. If true, I suppose it increases the chances of our singing him.

 

They also mention the possibility of the Bears trading for Warner in their note on Orton. Sounds like an interesting possibility...that probably should have happened years ago, and not now.

 

 

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

[nfoligno]

First, I believe it was basically personal speculation on what would be a good move for Chicago, as opposed to anything they had heard. I do not believe they said there was an indication we were looking at Warner, but just that it is a move they feel would make sense.

 

Second, while they say SF has not spoken w/ Briggs or his agent, they also said it is possible SF is avoiding early contact w/ Briggs due to prior tampering allegations, but that they will jump back into the mix once FA period officially begins.

[madlithuanian]

True... I just think the move is too little too late at this point in theory or in practice.

 

That's what I was thinking...SF is just laying low due to their indescretion.

 

First, I believe it was basically personal speculation on what would be a good move for Chicago, as opposed to anything they had heard. I do not believe they said there was an indication we were looking at Warner, but just that it is a move they feel would make sense.

 

Second, while they say SF has not spoken w/ Briggs or his agent, they also said it is possible SF is avoiding early contact w/ Briggs due to prior tampering allegations, but that they will jump back into the mix once FA period officially begins.

[nfoligno]

W/ regard to Briggs, the only way I see him coming back is if the market for him is simply FAR less than what Rosenarce and Briggs believes it will be. If Wash decides not to be a big player, it is possible the market will not be as great. If teams look to make Briggs rich, but not elite defensive player rich as Briggs expects, maybe we can get back into the picture. Personally, I think Briggs is simply gone.

 

Berrian I think is another matter. While the market is weak for WRs in FA, it is looking up for the draft. W/ a better, and deeper draft than expected for WRs, that might push the FA market down a bit. Berrian, while he may be the best on the market, is not a proven #1 stud, and simply may not get the bank breaking offers he wants. If that comes to pass, I think we could step in and make an offer that could appeal to him.

[Da Bears 88]

Warner? Um..........why?

[nfoligno]

My thinking exactly. We have Rex Grossman and Kyle Orton.

 

What has Warner ever done?

[chwtom]

It wouldn't make sense to acquire any qb through trade (whether Warner, McNabb or whoever) now that they've signed both Orton and Rex to short-term incentive contracts. Both those guys signed short term deals with the thought that they could compete to start against eachother this year, and parlay any success into a long term deal if they did well.

 

It makes perfect sense to do that if you are going to draft a rookie and let him sit a year. It makes no sense to do that if you are going to bring in a superior qb via trade.

 

The writing is on the wall that the Bears will ditch Griese and draft someone in the first 2 rounds in the draft as the "qb of the future". I don't agree with this plan, but that seems to be their plan.

[madlithuanian]

I hear ya. My gut feeling is same as yours and that Briggs'll be gone.

 

I also agree on Berrian. I think it's more of a chance he'll stay than Briggs. I still think we'll probably get out-bid, and he'll go fot the money...but it wouldn't surprise me if he stuck around. Maybe not tagging him may give him warm fuzzies, and give us a hometown discount.

 

 

W/ regard to Briggs, the only way I see him coming back is if the market for him is simply FAR less than what Rosenarce and Briggs believes it will be. If Wash decides not to be a big player, it is possible the market will not be as great. If teams look to make Briggs rich, but not elite defensive player rich as Briggs expects, maybe we can get back into the picture. Personally, I think Briggs is simply gone.

 

Berrian I think is another matter. While the market is weak for WRs in FA, it is looking up for the draft. W/ a better, and deeper draft than expected for WRs, that might push the FA market down a bit. Berrian, while he may be the best on the market, is not a proven #1 stud, and simply may not get the bank breaking offers he wants. If that comes to pass, I think we could step in and make an offer that could appeal to him.

[madlithuanian]

I agree, except about getitng McNabb. I'd nab him if we could. I just like him. But, I fully understand wanting not to.

 

I think you're spot on with the "plan". Just curious, why don't you like the plan? What would you prefer they do?

 

It wouldn't make sense to acquire any qb through trade (whether Warner, McNabb or whoever) now that they've signed both Orton and Rex to short-term incentive contracts. Both those guys signed short term deals with the thought that they could compete to start against eachother this year, and parlay any success into a long term deal if they did well.

 

It makes perfect sense to do that if you are going to draft a rookie and let him sit a year. It makes no sense to do that if you are going to bring in a superior qb via trade.

 

The writing is on the wall that the Bears will ditch Griese and draft someone in the first 2 rounds in the draft as the "qb of the future". I don't agree with this plan, but that seems to be their plan.

[madlithuanian]

My spider-powers are sensing sarcasm...

 

My thinking exactly. We have Rex Grossman and Kyle Orton.

 

What has Warner ever done?

[Dabears33]

That was the first time that someone actually came up with another scenario to fix the Bears QB situation. I've been asking all the other skeptics about what the Bears should have done rather than getting Grossman back for a small price and competition. And their answers are..........I don't know. Then they mention Anderson or McNabb, which aren't really on the market.

 

This was a good crack and a different way to think about the situation, but I wouldn't like the decision. We had our chance to get Warner, but he went to Arizona instead. Now we'd have to give up a draft pick for a guy that was thought to be washed up 2 years ago. We made the right move. It might not be the best move, but in our circumstances, it could have been worse. We could be going into Training Camp with Orton, Todd Collins and Draft Pick(just throwing out names on the market). We are holding onto that glimmer of hope that Grossman will snap out of him coma. Maybe a little competition in Orton and a future QB might do it.

[madlithuanian]

I've heard some folks bring up Volek...I think that would have been interesting. But with Rex signed, I don't think it makes sense.

 

That was the first time that someone actually came up with another scenario to fix the Bears QB situation. I've been asking all the other skeptics about what the Bears should have done rather than getting Grossman back for a small price and competition. And their answers are..........I don't know. Then they mention Anderson or McNabb, which aren't really on the market.

 

This was a good crack and a different way to think about the situation, but I wouldn't like the decision. We had our chance to get Warner, but he went to Arizona instead. Now we'd have to give up a draft pick for a guy that was thought to be washed up 2 years ago. We made the right move. It might not be the best move, but in our circumstances, it could have been worse. We could be going into Training Camp with Orton, Todd Collins and Draft Pick(just throwing out names on the market). We are holding onto that glimmer of hope that Grossman will snap out of him coma. Maybe a little competition in Orton and a future QB might do it.