'TD' Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/2008...-on-faneca.html Jets close in on Faneca The free-agent signing period opened at midnight, and the Jets were expected the strike quickly. The target: Steelers LG Alan Faneca. The Jets are poised to make Faneca an $8 million-a-year offer and, barring an upset, they will get their man. The official announcement may not happen for a day or two, but those in the know believe it’s a fait accompli. It’s never done until the ink is on the paper, but the Jets are expected to outbid the Rams and 49ers. Faneca, 31, is a seven-time Pro Bowl selection. He would fill a gaping hole at left guard, sliding between LT D’Brickashaw Ferguson and C Nick Mangold. Now look for them to pursue the Lions’ Damien Woody to play right tackle. He has been a guard and center most of his career - he was benched at guard midway through last season - but played the final five games of 2007 at right tackle. And did a pretty good job, I’m told. Clearly, with the Jonathan Vilma, Kris Jenkins and Faneca moves (Jenkins isn’t quite a done deal, I’m told), the Jets intend to be major players this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 I would have liked Faneca, but let the Jets have the 32 year old for all that money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 While other teams are improving, JA is sitting on his hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 I forgot whi mentioned it...but JA tends to strike fast. Given that we've not done anything yet...it probalby means we aren't going to do much in FA. I could be wrong...but it would appear that's how it's chaking out to be. Maybe he's waiting on the spending spree, and then will cherry pick. But, it is frustrating nonetheless. While other teams are improving, JA is sitting on his hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfoligno Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Issue I have is, the reason I read NY is so high on Faneca, is the same damn reason I said we should be. Is an upgrade to OG worth the money being talked about. No? But NY and some other teams have seen more than the upgrade at OG. NY has Brickshaw Ferguson at LT and Mangold at Center. They believe both are potentially great players, but have not played up to their potential. The believe is adding Faneca will not only upgrade the OG position, but will help their LT and Center take that next step forward. Look at Minny. They already had Birk, who was a stud. McKinnie was a stud in the making, but most didn't feel he was as consistent as he should be. After adding Hutchinson, McKinnie's development seemed to leap foward, and the trio formed a dominating side. Cle is another example, and the one I was looking at us modeling after. Everyone talks about how they draft Joe Thomas, and how he became a stud LT in his rookie year, but there is another side to this few have talked about (though the NFL Netword had a piece about it). Cle also spent money and signed Eric Steinbach in FA, and then drafted Joe Thomas. While Joe may have been a stud LT regardless, the opinion in Cle is that it was Steinbach at his side that helped Joe become such a stud so soon. I am looking at a solid to great OT class in the draft, and logic says we are a good bet to draft one. While Bell, Scott or some other FAs may well provide us a solid OG, I am not sure any would help a rookie develop as well as Faneca would. So to me, the money it would take to sign Faneca would prove a value, not only in the upgrade at OG, but also in how it would likely help the development of a rookie LT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Issue I have is, the reason I read NY is so high on Faneca, is the same damn reason I said we should be. Is an upgrade to OG worth the money being talked about. No? But NY and some other teams have seen more than the upgrade at OG. NY has Brickshaw Ferguson at LT and Mangold at Center. They believe both are potentially great players, but have not played up to their potential. The believe is adding Faneca will not only upgrade the OG position, but will help their LT and Center take that next step forward. Look at Minny. They already had Birk, who was a stud. McKinnie was a stud in the making, but most didn't feel he was as consistent as he should be. After adding Hutchinson, McKinnie's development seemed to leap foward, and the trio formed a dominating side. Cle is another example, and the one I was looking at us modeling after. Everyone talks about how they draft Joe Thomas, and how he became a stud LT in his rookie year, but there is another side to this few have talked about (though the NFL Netword had a piece about it). Cle also spent money and signed Eric Steinbach in FA, and then drafted Joe Thomas. While Joe may have been a stud LT regardless, the opinion in Cle is that it was Steinbach at his side that helped Joe become such a stud so soon. I am looking at a solid to great OT class in the draft, and logic says we are a good bet to draft one. While Bell, Scott or some other FAs may well provide us a solid OG, I am not sure any would help a rookie develop as well as Faneca would. So to me, the money it would take to sign Faneca would prove a value, not only in the upgrade at OG, but also in how it would likely help the development of a rookie LT. Agree 100%. Almost no price was too high for Faneca IMO. The intangibles he was going to bring were worth just as much as his ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfoligno Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 I would add this as well. We have a ton of cap space, yet I do not see that many FAs we are likely to sign that will cost much. To me, that means we can front load a good chunk of Faneca's deal so that while it would cost us today, would not be as painful after. I would much rather we spend the money on Faneca, rather than extending a bunch of players who were not even FAs. While the money spent on Alex Brown, Clark and Orton was not big, it add up. And we are looking at potential new deals for Harris and Urlacher as well. Sorry, but the status quo doesn't seem great to me, and I would rather we spend big on a player like Faneca, rather than spending a ton of our 2008 cap on extending players who are not even FAs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 It truly is frustrating... I would add this as well. We have a ton of cap space, yet I do not see that many FAs we are likely to sign that will cost much. To me, that means we can front load a good chunk of Faneca's deal so that while it would cost us today, would not be as painful after. I would much rather we spend the money on Faneca, rather than extending a bunch of players who were not even FAs. While the money spent on Alex Brown, Clark and Orton was not big, it add up. And we are looking at potential new deals for Harris and Urlacher as well. Sorry, but the status quo doesn't seem great to me, and I would rather we spend big on a player like Faneca, rather than spending a ton of our 2008 cap on extending players who are not even FAs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 It truly is frustrating... You can say that again. I'm a season ticket holder and the ineptitude of JA, offseason after offseason, to bring in a big name FA is really starting to pi$$ me off. They continue to raise ticket prices yet they never spend any of the money. Get your act together, Angelo, ya bum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 I really want to cut JA some slack, but I find it to be difficult to do so after these last couple seasons... You can say that again. I'm a season ticket holder and the ineptitude of JA, offseason after offseason, to bring in a big name FA is really starting to pi$$ me off. They continue to raise ticket prices yet they never spend any of the money. Get your act together, Angelo, ya bum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ostrogoth Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Alan Faneca isn't making any free agent visits until he's ready to sign a contract. The Jets have offered four years for $32 million with about $20 in guarantees. The Rams and 49ers are also reportedly making offers. Faneca's agent will present the deals to his client Saturday, and a decision will come by Sunday at the latest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Alan Faneca isn't making any free agent visits until he's ready to sign a contract. The Jets have offered four years for $32 million with about $20 in guarantees. The Rams and 49ers are also reportedly making offers. Faneca's agent will present the deals to his client Saturday, and a decision will come by Sunday at the latest. In that case, maybe we'll give him 5 years, $40 million with $22 million in guarantees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Faneca agrees in principle to Jets deal of 4/$32. Ugh. The Bears should've matched that. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3271283 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bears 88 Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Faneca agrees in principle to Jets deal of 4/$32. Ugh. The Bears should've matched that. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3271283 We need to get younger on the OLine not older again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connorbear Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 You can say that again. I'm a season ticket holder and the ineptitude of JA, offseason after offseason, to bring in a big name FA is really starting to pi$$ me off. They continue to raise ticket prices yet they never spend any of the money. Get your act together, Angelo, ya bum. Please spare me. They spend up to the cap every yr. I'm a season ticket holder as well - what does that have to do with our front office??? Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Please spare me. They spend up to the cap every yr. I'm a season ticket holder as well - what does that have to do with our front office??? Peace And yet they raise ticket prices again, only on day one not to make one offer, or to even meet with a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3271283 4 years, $32, with $23 guaranteed. Maybe I would not of liked us to get him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Already posted here: http://www.talkbears.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1919 Also, its the Jets not the Giants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 That's a "Faneca deal close" thread, not a "Faneca and Jets agree to terms" thread, like this is. Yeah, I see now that I put a "G" at the end of "NY" and not a "J". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixote Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3271283 4 years, $32, with $23 guaranteed. Maybe I would not of liked us to get him... If he were 25, 26, 27 years old maybe, but to pay that much for a 31 year old guard, well, some have said he is a kick butt OG and surely has 4 or 5 more good years left in the tank. Isn't that the same mentality that got the Bears into the pickle they are in now with their OL, ignoring age and thinking they were all just going to continue to play as they did in the past even though we had the oldest OL in the NFL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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