madlithuanian Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Good deal! Mad Lith After reading Papa Bear I looked up & read a bit on Hill. The link for the Kavanaugh I gave is a link to the Clan Kavanagh website. I'm a Kavanagh so I read a bit on him too. Looking to get his book too The Humility of Greatness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 You could probably make a case for Jimbo Covert, Jay Hilgenberg and Dave Duerson in there. I'd probably take Butler over Gould too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 I'd happily swap Bortz for Covert! Hilgenberg was a must until I read more about Turner... I love Duerson too. But I felt Borwn and Plank were more than worthy. Heck, even Fencik is up there. You could probably make a case for Jimbo Covert, Jay Hilgenberg and Dave Duerson in there. I'd probably take Butler over Gould too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adibear Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 I'd happily swap Bortz for Covert! Hilgenberg was a must until I read more about Turner... I love Duerson too. But I felt Borwn and Plank were more than worthy. Heck, even Fencik is up there. Dave Duerson's wife, Alicia Duerson at the after the Superbowl party went to Buddy Ryan and thank him for for all he had done to make her husband a better player..Ryan snapped "he wouldnt have played a minute if Todd Bell had been here",he turned on his heels and left Alicia shacking her head at his rudeness.I never liked Ryan,IMO he was a big headed twat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Then again, didn't Duerson get nailed for beating his wife? Ryan was a jerk...but a damn brilliant one. Dave Duerson's wife, Alicia Duerson at the after the Superbowl party went to Buddy Ryan and thank him for for all he had done to make her husband a better player..Ryan snapped "he wouldnt have played a minute if Todd Bell had been here",he turned on his heels and left Alicia shacking her head at his rudeness.I never liked Ryan,IMO he was a big headed twat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adibear Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Ryan was a jerk...but a damn brilliant one. he was shite Head Coach..Philly had a great D but a piss poor Offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 True enough...but he was a defensive genius. He should never have left CHicago! he was shite Head Coach..Philly had a great D but a piss poor Offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChileBear Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Then again, didn't Duerson get nailed for beating his wife? Ryan was a jerk...but a damn brilliant one. Agree. Ryan will never win any social graces award! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 I read Singletary's book not too long ago and evern Ryan was a big jerk to him... But at the end, he had gained respect. I look at Ryan like an old fashioned drill sargeant... Hard to love, easy to respect. Agree. Ryan will never win any social graces award! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adibear Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 I read Singletary's book not too long ago and evern Ryan was a big jerk to him... But at the end, he had gained respect. I look at Ryan like an old fashioned drill sargeant... Hard to love, easy to respect. funny but I see Ryan as the grumpy old fart that sits on the park bench feeding the ducks..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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