Haynes on Ced

[AZ54]

Pretty damning stuff but probably won't shock anyone on this board.

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/be...SPT-bear15.stng

 

''Cedric has always been lazy,'' Haynes said. ''Cedric was lazy when he first got to Chicago, and I guarantee you he is lazy now. It's the work ethic that a lot of teammates didn't like. When I was there and things didn't work out, I always showed up and I always worked hard. I tried really hard, and I never complained.''

 

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For the first time publicly, Haynes acknowledged he was the source of a Sun-Times story in August 2006 that revealed Benson had left Soldier Field at the beginning of a preseason game against the Chargers. The story was confirmed independently with a second player still active in the league. It was the first time feelings about Benson inside the locker room leaked out. The common belief was he was a coddled player used to preferential treatment and he always would be protected by the club.

 

''That's the way it was,'' Haynes said. ''As an organization, I realized they had a lot of money invested in Ced, and they couldn't get rid of him right away. You knew he wasn't going to change. Everyone thought I was being too judgmental too early. I'm like, 'Look, people don't change. They are who they are.'''

 

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The proof, according to Haynes, can be found not only in Benson's body of work, but also in his body.

 

''He was cutting a lot of corners in the weight room, and guys notice that,'' Haynes said. ''He was never cut, and that was one of those things that surprised a lot of people when he first got there. You expect someone to be cut up a little bit, but the fact that he wasn't came to show you, at least us, that there was an issue here. Running backs, you're supposed to be cut.''

[BearFan2000]

nothing surprising here and I'm sure this won't be the last article featuring someone's tell all about Benson. The only named sources will likely be ex-Bears. At this point does it really matter for us Bears Fans. Benson was a lazy turd with very bad judgement. He's no longer a Bear so I don't have much interest in following the aftermath of his being released and even less about where he goes from here. All the he said she said is now in the past or about the past. Time to move on. Benson made his bed now he must lie in it. If he somehow does turn his career around good for him but I somehow doubt it unless he has a major attitude adjustment. But his future whether it be in the NFL or otherwise I could really care less. So as for me this is the last time I'll give it any thought.

[Connorbear]

Pretty damning stuff but probably won't shock anyone on this board.

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/be...SPT-bear15.stng

 

''Cedric has always been lazy,'' Haynes said. ''Cedric was lazy when he first got to Chicago, and I guarantee you he is lazy now. It's the work ethic that a lot of teammates didn't like. When I was there and things didn't work out, I always showed up and I always worked hard. I tried really hard, and I never complained.''

 

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For the first time publicly, Haynes acknowledged he was the source of a Sun-Times story in August 2006 that revealed Benson had left Soldier Field at the beginning of a preseason game against the Chargers. The story was confirmed independently with a second player still active in the league. It was the first time feelings about Benson inside the locker room leaked out. The common belief was he was a coddled player used to preferential treatment and he always would be protected by the club.

 

''That's the way it was,'' Haynes said. ''As an organization, I realized they had a lot of money invested in Ced, and they couldn't get rid of him right away. You knew he wasn't going to change. Everyone thought I was being too judgmental too early. I'm like, 'Look, people don't change. They are who they are.'''

 

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The proof, according to Haynes, can be found not only in Benson's body of work, but also in his body.

 

''He was cutting a lot of corners in the weight room, and guys notice that,'' Haynes said. ''He was never cut, and that was one of those things that surprised a lot of people when he first got there. You expect someone to be cut up a little bit, but the fact that he wasn't came to show you, at least us, that there was an issue here. Running backs, you're supposed to be cut.''

Boy, talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel. Michael Haynes was more concerned with picking out his furniture than learning the defensive playbook according to one of the defensive coaches. Not that I don't believe him but this guy was as big a bust as Ced.

 

Peace

[AZ54]

For me the most important part of this whole process (watching high draft picks bust) is the fact the league absolutely must change the salary structure for rookies. There's absolutely zero incentive to work if your first contract is so high there's little financial incentive to work for the second one. Top ten picks should not be among the highest paid players in the game.

[DrunkBomber]

For me the most important part of this whole process (watching high draft picks bust) is the fact the league absolutely must change the salary structure for rookies. There's absolutely zero incentive to work if your first contract is so high there's little financial incentive to work for the second one. Top ten picks should not be among the highest paid players in the game.

Exactly. When teams have such a large financial commitment to players it makes it almost impossible to cut ties with them if they bust for at least a few years. SO because of this we had to get rid of Jones, a much better back, because we couldnt offer him more money because we had too much invested in Benson. Theres no reason why Jamarcus Russel and Matt Ryan should make more then Tom Brady. I hope this is something that gets ironed out when they make the new CBA in the next few years.

[Guest TerraTor]

You know you're a loser when Michael Haynes is rippin' on you.... i wish payton was alive to kick Bensons ass for daring to play the position he dominated for years

[ParkerBear7]

You know you're a loser when Michael Haynes is rippin' on you.... i wish payton was alive to kick Bensons ass for daring to play the position he dominated for years

 

 

Great Post - Terra!!!

[Pixote]

Seems like our past 1st round draft busts are lining up to take shots.

 

Salaam, Haynes, who next, Enis & McNown? Give me a break.

[Mongo3451]

name='Pixote' date='Jun 15 2008, 10:03 PM' post='40630']

Seems like our past 1st round draft busts are lining up to take shots.

 

Salaam, Haynes, who next, Enis & McNown? Give me a break.

I can see his frustration. At least he had the courtesy to stay hidden until Ced was gone. I always liked the way Haynes was a good guy when with the Bears. The organization pretty much ruined his career by mis-drafting him,then asking him to play scheme he wasn't suited for, then asking him to lose weight, then gain weight etc... I really think he could have made it with a team that played bigger ends or a 3-4. We didn't let him go until he was damaged goods, with no chance to compete. I guess that's the nature of the beast. He's been better to the Bears than the Bears were to him.

[Bears4Ever_34]

Just curious, but what does Haynes mean by "Cut?" Does he mean like bulked up or a different "Cut"?

[Mongo3451]

Just curious, but what does Haynes mean by "Cut?" Does he mean like bulked up or a different "Cut"?

Cut is like, ripped or chisled.(very little fat with popping muscles)

[nfoligno]

Recent stories, I think from coaches, question Haynes to the point of saying he was more interested in picking out furniture than learning the playbook. If he was passive in his training, then might some blame not fall on him.

 

Haynes may not have been ideal, but other DEs who were not perfectly suited for our system did better than him. Heck, Phillip Daniels and Boone each looked better at DE than Haynes, and neither were suited for Angelo's scheme.

 

I also do not buy that Haynes' NFL career was ended due to the way we played him. He left us and played for another team or two, and failed w/ them too. Maybe, instead of the idea we killed his career, maybe he was simply never and NFL player. Good college player who simply was never good enough for the NFL.

 

I agree he was mis-cast in our scheme, but even a mis-cast player I think should have looked better than Haynes. He was not even good agains the run, and could not lock down a run down specialist role. Staff questioning his comittment makes a lot of sense to me.

 

I think the bears were plenty good to him. His bank account is evidence of that. His, per the coaches, lack of committment tells me he may not have been as good to the bears as they were to him.

[AZ54]

Which brings up the question of how bad was the 2005 draft class? That's 7/10 top picks that haven't done much, not nearly enough to warrant their contracts. I don't know the exact number but I bet in combined signing bonuses they garnered over $100 million. That's just bad for business.

 

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...,1243940.column

 

6. I know that the 2005 draft already included nearly as many busts as the foyer at the Pro Football Hall of Fame before Benson joined the list.

 

The group of misses among the top 10 picks includes Pacman Jones (No. 6, Titans), Troy Williamson (No. 7, Vikings) and Mike Williams (No. 10, Lions). The running backs sandwiched around Benson at No. 2 (Ronnie Brown, Dolphins) and No. 5 ( Cadillac Williams, Buccaneers) haven't done enough lately for various reasons to justify their high selections either.

 

Throw in the No. 1 overall pick, shaky quarterback Alex Smith of San Francisco, and the top half of the first round in 2005 serves as Exhibit A in proving how inexact the science of the NFL draft is.

[madlithuanian]

At least we're not the only fool on the block...

 

 

It really does look like a bum draft class. Granted, Ronnie Brown and C. Williams have shown flashes. ...and there's still a chance Alex SMith could develop. But that classs just looks bum overall. It's not like looking back at the class of '83 for QB's!

 

Which brings up the question of how bad was the 2005 draft class? That's 7/10 top picks that haven't done much, not nearly enough to warrant their contracts. I don't know the exact number but I bet in combined signing bonuses they garnered over $100 million. That's just bad for business.

 

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...,1243940.column

 

6. I know that the 2005 draft already included nearly as many busts as the foyer at the Pro Football Hall of Fame before Benson joined the list.

 

The group of misses among the top 10 picks includes Pacman Jones (No. 6, Titans), Troy Williamson (No. 7, Vikings) and Mike Williams (No. 10, Lions). The running backs sandwiched around Benson at No. 2 (Ronnie Brown, Dolphins) and No. 5 ( Cadillac Williams, Buccaneers) haven't done enough lately for various reasons to justify their high selections either.

 

Throw in the No. 1 overall pick, shaky quarterback Alex Smith of San Francisco, and the top half of the first round in 2005 serves as Exhibit A in proving how inexact the science of the NFL draft is.

[azbearsfan]

For me the most important part of this whole process (watching high draft picks bust) is the fact the league absolutely must change the salary structure for rookies. There's absolutely zero incentive to work if your first contract is so high there's little financial incentive to work for the second one. Top ten picks should not be among the highest paid players in the game.

 

 

I couldn't agree more!!!

 

 

 

And since when have Saalam and Haynes become experts on hard work? lol

[AZ54]

Look at it this way, if Haynes is outworking you, you have serious problems.

[Iguana]

Cut is like, ripped or chisled.(very little fat with popping muscles)

 

Not Ced the marshmellow like he was last year

[Iguana]

I couldn't agree more!!!

 

 

 

And since when have Saalam and Haynes become experts on hard work? lol

 

 

They're experts at not working hard......they would know a slacker when they see one. and they see one.