Tank calls Grossman soft and brittle.

[butkusrules]

Tank Disparaging Grossman-its one thing if fans do it , its another when that piece of garbage does it.

 

 

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10925647

 

The former Chicago Bear, Tank "Gatling Gun" Johnson, was tossing the football recently with several other defensive linemen at Dallas' training camp. They were chatting and joking and Johnson's voice boomed loudly. When the topic suddenly turned to Johnson's old teammate, quarterback Rex Grossman, Tank was even less shy.

 

Johnson didn't seem to care that a journalist and several fans were well within earshot. Johnson called Grossman brittle and, in so many words that can't be repeated, he also called him soft.

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One man vs. One fan

Joe Kuzma

"We don't have a quarterback and we just need offense. We don't have offense."

patg006: "The key thing about this year is pressure. There is none. And there is no reason why the Bears shouldn't win 8-10 games."

 

Tell us how you really feel, Tankster?

 

Fast forward to the Bears' preseason game Thursday night against Kansas City on a gorgeous night at Soldier Field. Grossman, Tank's favorite quarterback, was on the sideline as Kyle Orton started. Orton looked solid at one moment and discombobulated in others. Once while scrambling he fumbled the football. The game was a chance for Orton to develop a foothold in the starting lineup and finally force Grossman to take a foothold in oblivion.

 

"I don't think you can hang your hat on one night to win any job," Orton said following Chicago's 24-20 loss to Kansas City. "I thought I played solid and made the right reads and ran the offense. That has been my goal. As long as I continue to do that, I'll be fine."

 

As usual, however, due to the theory Grossman possesses a wicked voodoo doll or compromising photos of competing throwers in a mid-sex act with Yogi Bear in Jellystone Park, Rex is still alive in the quarterback race.

 

He won't go away. Drop a nuke on Grossman and he arises from the radioactive rubble, ready to throw an interception. He laughs at the Andromeda Strain. He spits on your mocking of him. Cockroaches say the only thing that will outlive them is Grossman. No, he won't go away. He just won't freaking go away.

 

It's one of the greater mysteries in football over the past few years. Why hasn't Grossman become an ex-Bear? For that matter, how is Sexy Rexy still in this league?

 

The answer is that the coaching staff is doing everything in its power to help a player with limited ability succeed. The reason why the Bears are doing this is inexplicable.

Out of Nowhere Man

(Caleb Hanie) Quarterback Caleb Hanie is an undrafted rookie from Colorado State and under normal circustances would have little chance of making the team. But these are the quarterback-challenged Bears. There has been the predictable and silly clamor from some Bears fans that Hanie should start. Well, that's just dumb. But Hanie has a solid chance to earn a spot on the roster.

Who is your Out of Nowhere Man?

 

I was once suckered by Grossman's hypnotic appeal several years ago, just like the Bears' coaching staff is. I thought he would dramatically improve and lead Chicago to another Super Bowl appearance.

 

Many fans have clearly tired of Grossman. During one of their recent training camp practices, Grossman was booed. Against the Chiefs he received a lukewarm greeting and was booed after he attempted an errant Brett Favre-like flip of the football while scrambling.

 

Grossman was booed again when, after taking the snap from center, he tripped and fell. It's a scene all too familiar to Bears fans.

 

The Bears have other problems, of course. Their offensive line remains horrid and just got worse with news that tackle Chris Williams, the team's first-round pick, is out for an extended period following surgery to repair a herniated disk in his back. The Bears state privately there's a chance Williams could play this year, but if you believe that then you believe Grossman will one day enter the Hall of Fame.

 

No, Grossman and Orton aren't the only problems, but they remain a symbol of a franchise that has stubbornly stuck to its Grossman guns. There's an arrogance about how the Bears have dealt with this situation. Even if Green Bay would've been willing to trade Favre to Chicago, it seems the Bears weren't all that interested.

Fantasy Writer

Devin Hester

 

Positives: Speed, speed, speed. Those highlight plays Hester makes as a return specialist could happen on offense if he gets the ball in space. With Chicago lacking talent at receiver, Hester has the chance to play a lot. If Rex Grossman wins the job, look for at least 2-3 deep-ball chances in Hester's direction every game.

Negatives: He looked lost on offense last year and could struggle with his routes. Grossman and Kyle Orton aren't exactly good quarterbacks, and either one could miss on getting Hester the ball. He might not beat out Earl Bennett, Rashied Davis or Mark Bradley for playing time.

Outlook: Hester is a decent late-round flier in all Fantasy leagues. If he pans out, he's a steal because of his ability to catch the deep ball and score touchdowns. If not, release him the first time you need someone off the waiver wire.

-- Jamey Eisenberg

Bears draft averages

RB: Matt Forte (67th overall)

QB: None drafted

WR: Devin Hester (147th overall)

TE: Greg Olsen (141st overall)

2008 Fantasy Draft Prep

 

While Lovie Smith is a smart coach and defensive heavyweight, both he and general manager Jerry Angelo have been woeful in nurturing the quarterback position. The New York Giants and Bears were once in very similar circumstances. The Giants struggled to find a franchise thrower post-Phil Simms the same way the Bears have post-Jim McMahon.

 

The Giants had some interim success with players like Kerry Collins, but it took a huge gamble by Ernie Accorsi, the former general manager, to make a bold move to grab Eli Manning. Now they have a thrower for the next decade. The Bears have really taken no such gamble. They've done very little to improve their fortunes.

 

Since the late 1990s the Bears have started Cade McNown, Jim Miller, Chris Chandler, Henry Burris, Kordell Stewart, Chad Hutchinson, Jonathan Quinn (yes the Jonathan Quinn), Craig Krenzel (no relation to Kris Kringle), Orton, Grossman and Brian Griese. That's not exactly a sparking quarterback roll call.

 

The Bears, in all probability, will be forced to change their approach to the position after this year. Neither quarterback is lighting up camp and there's no reason to believe that will change once the season begins. Even the Grossman-tolerant Bears must reach their fill, right. Right? RIGHT?

 

Just remember this Grossman statistic: 32 regular season games and 33 interceptions.

 

Yuck.

[Da Bears 88]

Here something for you Tank, shut your mouth.

 

Quit running your yap acting like you're some All-Pro defensive player.

 

You know what i don't feel sorry for you.

 

I hope you suck in Dallas.

[DrunkBomber]

I saw him on the new season of Hard Knocks and he seems more concerned with messing with rookies than anything else.

[nfoligno]

I saw him on the new season of Hard Knocks and he seems more concerned with messing with rookies than anything else.

 

Say what you all will, but according to most here in Dallas, Tank is having an absolute great camp. Local beat guy said he was having the best camp of any player.

 

As for the comment about Rex, why exactly should we be so quick to dismiss it? One of the things I have so often read about was how the team was 100% supportive of Rex. No matter what, he was their guy. What if that isn't the case?

[Pixote]

Say what you all will, but according to most here in Dallas, Tank is having an absolute great camp. Local beat guy said he was having the best camp of any player.

 

As for the comment about Rex, why exactly should we be so quick to dismiss it? One of the things I have so often read about was how the team was 100% supportive of Rex. No matter what, he was their guy. What if that isn't the case?

 

I always thought Tank would be a stud DT so it would not surprise me if he became a Pro Bowler and very successful as long as he stays out of trouble.

[Da Bears 88]

Say what you all will, but according to most here in Dallas, Tank is having an absolute great camp. Local beat guy said he was having the best camp of any player.

 

As for the comment about Rex, why exactly should we be so quick to dismiss it? One of the things I have so often read about was how the team was 100% supportive of Rex. No matter what, he was their guy. What if that isn't the case?

So, let this clown hammer Rex when he gets it enough from the fans? Brilliant thinking on your part.

 

Tank has no room to talk. He's lucky he's still in the NFL.

 

Good riddance to that piece of crap.

[GrizzlyBear]

Call Grossman Brittle, Tank your undisciplined!!!

[jason]

If Stalin called Hitler evil, would it be any less true because of Stalin's own legacy? I think not.

 

Until Rex steps up in the pocket, there's a good chance that most people on other NFL teams probably agree with Tank.

[GrizzlyBear]

If Stalin called Hitler evil, would it be any less true because of Stalin's own legacy? I think not.

 

Until Rex steps up in the pocket, there's a good chance that most people on other NFL teams probably agree with Tank.

 

Totaly bad example IMHO

[Ed Hochuli 3:16]

So, let this clown hammer Rex when he gets it enough from the fans? Brilliant thinking on your part.

 

Tank has no room to talk. He's lucky he's still in the NFL.

 

Good riddance to that piece of crap.

If Rex wasn't on the Bears, he'd be a 3rd string QB on another team. What's the difference?

[jason]

Totaly bad example IMHO

 

Bad example or not, you miss the point. When someone states something, their statement can't necessarily be disregarded for their own personal issues. Use any example you want. Pick a guy who is widely disregarded or considered a bad character guy, and if he states fact (or damn near fact), then it shouldn't be disregarded because the guy is a bad character.

 

If Tank said water was wet I'd have to agree with him. And Rex, no matter how much we want him to turn into the best QB in the NFL, is timid at best, and weak at worst. Let's take off the rose-colored glasses, stop drinking the koolaid, and just say it: Tank is right - Rex is weak.

 

Does that mean he doesn't have big time talent? No

Does that mean he can't lead a team? No

Does that mean he can't win with good talent around him? No

 

But, once again, let's be honest, the dude's weak. He pitter-pats his feet more than most NFL-calibre QBs. He throws off his back foot more than most NFL QBs. He makes atrocious decisions when in the face of danger far too often to be considered a tough guy. The pressure, the hits, the physicality of it all intimidates him. There is no denying this fact.

 

All that considered, Tank's words ring true.

[Ed Hochuli 3:16]

Here something for you Tank, shut your mouth.

 

Quit running your yap acting like you're some All-Pro defensive player.

 

You know what i don't feel sorry for you.

 

I hope you suck in Dallas.

What's there to feel sorry about?

The fact that his team is arguably the most talented in the conference?

[Da Bears 88]

Call me Rex's biggest golden boy, fan boy whatever.

 

Every time Rex steps onto a field he gets hammered by fans or other teams players.

 

Sure, he deserves it for his silly mistakes. I've come close to breaking my remote every time he's done it.

 

Tank should really concentrate on playing football for Dallas.

 

Him and his big mouth fits in well with TO.

[BearSox]

wow, if I didn't know any better, it'd seem like Tank was talking about Bears 88's mother or something.

[Connorbear]

Maybe if Tank was a better teammate he would still be around.

 

Instead, he is a selfish turd. Screw him.

 

Peace

[BigDaddy]

wow, if I didn't know any better, it'd seem like Tank was talking about Bears 88's mother or something.

 

freak Tank Johnson. He's nothing more than a common street thug. He should know better than to trash a teammate whose done nothing to him. He should have more respect. I know he won't get any lessons in respect playing for the Cowboys. Don't worry, he'll find a way to freak up his situation in Dallas. Just as soon as they start winning and things look bright, he'll make that trip out to a club and get somebody else shot and then his career will be over. Of course he'll be remorseful but in the end, he is what he is.

[Ed Hochuli 3:16]

Call me Rex's biggest golden boy, fan boy whatever.

 

Every time Rex steps onto a field he gets hammered by fans or other teams players.

 

Sure, he deserves it for his silly mistakes. I've come close to breaking my remote every time he's done it.

 

Tank should really concentrate on playing football for Dallas.

 

Him and his big mouth fits in well with TO.

BP #1- Then why were you defending him when he was boo'ed at Soldier Field?

 

BP #2- He obviously is concentrating if nfo's statements are right- he's having a great TC/pre-season.

[nfoligno]

Didn't Rivera say just about the same thing, or maybe he told his players such.

 

At the time, I believe bear fans shredded Rivera, calling him bitter. At some point though, doesn't the blind loyalty of Rex have to be questioned? Rex is ripped from one end of the league to the other. From players to coaches to scouts to GMs to the media. Not all, but wide spread enough. And yet bear fans hear such comments and simply blast the speak, whether its a hall of fame QB, former bear coach or former bear player. Whoever it is, seems to have no credibility in Bear fans mind because it is Rex being attacked.

 

I understand attacking anyone who questions your team or player, but come on. This idea everyone out there is stupid? Tank may not be the best role model, but why are his comments so easily dismissed. What if he were in Dallas talking about how Rex was unfairly criticized, and how Rex could be one of the best QBs in the league. Would these same posters say Tank is not a bear and should just shut up. Hell no. They would use his comments as if they were gospel. But since Tank spoke negative about their savior.....

[nfoligno]

BP #2- He obviously is concentrating if nfo's statements are right- he's having a great TC/pre-season.

 

Randy Galloway, a local guy here (who I can't stand) shredded Jones for adding Tank, but has had to admit he "may" have been wrong, as Tank has been a good boy. Further, in camp, he is looking like a man possessed. Dallas fans are talking about Tank in the pro bowl this year. The hype is high.

 

I said this before, but if Tank talked about how much he loved Rex, or how good he thought Rex was or could be, would posters say Tank should shut up and focus on his own camp. Hell no. But only because Tank speaks negative about Rex is he blasted.

 

Last year, I believe Rivera told his players Rex was mentally soft and would crack under pressure, thus recommended his D to blitz the hell out of him. Bear fans attacked Rivera as a bitter man.

 

If Mike Brown was let go, and told his teamates Rex was weak, wanna bet how fast Bear fans would shred the hell out of Brown? No player who speaks ill of the boy wonder is safe.

[nfoligno]

Maybe if Tank was a better teammate he would still be around.

 

Instead, he is a selfish turd. Screw him.

 

Yea fine. He is a selfish turd. Maybe an alcoholic. A downright jerk. Whatever you want to call him, I've said it twice. But does that mean he is wrong?

[BearSox]

I personally don't care. If what he has to say effects the team in any way, shape, or form... then well shame on the Bears.

[nfoligno]

Totaly bad example IMHO

 

How about this. Tank, a vilified Bear, leaves the team. He talks about what a crap player Benson (still w/ the team) was. How about that for an example.

 

Wanna bet Tank would find far fewer bear fans attacking him. It isn't who is doing the attacking, but who is being attacked.

[Connorbear]

Yea fine. He is a selfish turd. Maybe an alcoholic. A downright jerk. Whatever you want to call him, I've said it twice. But does that mean he is wrong?

I don't really care if he is right or wrong. The point is he shouldn't have said a damn thing. Rex is more of a man and a teammate than he will ever be. No matter what you think of Rex's play, you can't complain about how he has handled himself on and off the field. He has busted his arse to get better and has always stood up and taken the criticism.

 

What point did Tank's words serve???? Tank needs to grow up.

 

Peace

[adam]

The best part:

Drop a nuke on Grossman and he arises from the radioactive rubble, ready to throw an interception.

[jason]

I don't really care if he is right or wrong. The point is he shouldn't have said a damn thing. Rex is more of a man and a teammate than he will ever be. No matter what you think of Rex's play, you can't complain about how he has handled himself on and off the field. He has busted his arse to get better and has always stood up and taken the criticism.

 

What point did Tank's words serve???? Tank needs to grow up.

 

Peace

 

He's busted his ass to get better? Really? I see the same guy, making the same mistakes, dropping the same snaps, throwing off his back foot under pressure.