Da Bears 88 Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 While it's difficult to imagine general manager Jerry Angelo cutting a second-round pick after one year, Bazuin still isn't fully recovered from a knee injury he suffered in rookie minicamp. It swells up from time to time. Complicating matters for him is the need for depth inside at tackle, where the Bears were overrun by injuries last season. If it comes down to keeping an extra interior lineman or an end, the Bears are going to look inside, and Idonije provides roster flexibility. Bazuin spent all of last season on injured reserve and is in a situation where he may need to perform well in the next two games to make a case for himself. Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Can they IR him again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 I don't see why not, unless someone knows something about the IR rules that I don't... But...given what we've all (not) seen from Bazuin...I wouldn't be surprised to see him jetisonned... Can they IR him again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulster Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Jesus...this organization is cursed with draft picks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Not so much on the D side... Bazuin's the biggest disappointment in recent memory. Dusty's been injury prone, but I wouldn't call him a bust. Jesus...this organization is cursed with draft picks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Jesus...this organization is cursed with draft picks How can you even say that? Hester A. Brown M. Brown Urlacher T. Harris Vasher Tillman M. Anderson Hillenmeyer Berrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Actually Hilly was a FA pick up... But sub him with Olsen, and point still made. How can you even say that? Hester A. Brown M. Brown Urlacher T. Harris Vasher Tillman M. Anderson Hillenmeyer Berrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulster Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 only first 3 rounds and starting in 1997 (number before the name is the overall draft pick selection) overall name 1997- 38 John Allred 69 Bob Sapp 1998- 5 Curtis Enis 1999- 12 Cade McNown 48 Russell Davis 71 D'Wayne Bates Maybe even Rex Tucker 2000- 69 Dez White 87 Dustin Lyman 2001- 8 David Terrell 68 Mike Gandy Lucky "The Train" had a good rookie yr 2002- 29 Mark Colombo 72 Roosevelt Williams 93 Terrance Metcalf 2003- 14 Michael Haynes 22 Rex Grossman (still plays like a rookie) 2004- 47 Terry Johnson 2005- 4 Cedric Benson 39 Mark Bradley 2006- 42 Danieal Manning 73 Dusty Dvoracek (has he ever been off the PUP) 2007- 62 Dan Bazuin 94 Michael Okwo (still has time to prosper) 2008- 14 Chris Williams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradjock Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Can they IR him again? Yes. I read the article and thought they were absolute idiots for suggesting we'd cut him. The article even states that we don't really know what he can do because he's not fully rehabilitated yet. Why the hell would you cut a 2nd round draft pick his 2nd year just because he's hurt??? Stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Yes. I read the article and thought they were absolute idiots for suggesting we'd cut him. The article even states that we don't really know what he can do because he's not fully rehabilitated yet. Why the hell would you cut a 2nd round draft pick his 2nd year just because he's hurt??? Stupid. I doubt we cut him also, I believe he signed a 7.65 million dollar contract over 4 years, so we probably still owe about 1-1/2 to 2 million in guarantees. It would sure be a shame to cut him loose before we can really see his talent. If anything, maybe he will go on the PUP list if that is at all possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I don't understand all the bashing of Bazuin who has played a total of about 4 quarters in the NFL. Here's some preseason stats for comparison: tackles/solo sacks Mark AndersonCHI DE 0 0 0 0.0 Dan Bazuin CHI DE 5 5 0 0.0 (missed sack when he overran QB in endzone) Alex Brown CHI DE 2 2 0 1.0 Adewale OgunleyeCHI DE 2 2 0 1.0 Israel Idonije CHI DE 2 2 0 1.0 I keep hearing Bazuin has done nothing yet he has more tackles than Mark Anderson and both are backup DEs. For sure Bazuin is getting more time late in the games than either of the top 3 but Anderson is getting time against backups too. Isn't he supposed to shine then? Sure he had one nice outside/inside move and got pressure on the QB against KC yet Bazuin has done the same. I guess people want to cut Bazuin so we can keep the great Israel Idonije at DE who did this last year: G TCKLS SOLO AST SACKS INT YDS AVG LG TD 16 20 14 6 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 Idonije is going to get a look at DE tomorrow; with his added 30lbs but I suspect he won't be as fast or agile turning the corner as he was last year, and he wasn't good at it last year. We need 4 DEs on our roster because we must have 3 who can rotate within a game. I'll be the one wild card and say that Idonije is getting time at DE because he can be active for game days and still fill in there in case of injury during a game. I don't think it's the coaches intention to use him as the primary DE backup as they did last year. I think Bazuin has been far from awful, as many suggest, and I expect he'll show more progress this game as he did against Seattle. JA won't be too quick to give up on a 2nd Rd pick after 6-8 quarters of football. I want to add that in the last game Idonije showed more at DT with his new physique than I've seen from him in 4 years at either DE or DT. I want to see him repeat that again tomorrow but remember San Fran will be playing backup OG/OT as their starters. DT may be the right spot for him and the combo of Harris, Dusty, Adams, Harrison, and Idonije is looking pretty good to me right now. I'll stick with DE of Brown, Anderson, Bazuin, Ogun Harrison and Bazuin will be inactive on game days until there's an injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 name='AZ54' date='Aug 20 2008, 10:08 PM' post='44584'] I want to add that in the last game Idonije showed more at DT with his new physique than I've seen from him in 4 years at either DE or DT. I want to see him repeat that again tomorrow but remember San Fran will be playing backup OG/OT as their starters. DT may be the right spot for him and the combo of Harris, Dusty, Adams, Harrison, and Idonije is looking pretty good to me right now. I have to eat a little crow on Idonije. He has looked pretty good so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulster Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Jesus...this organization is cursed with draft picks Troy aikon brought this up during the game last night.....Maybe I should get a job with FOX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Bazuin sucked last night. San Fran often lined up the LT and a TE over him and then the TE just blocked down. Sometimes the LT doubled him and others he would pull back to the outside. Not once did I see Bazuin follow the LT and get upfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerBear7 Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 The real shame here is that there probably was a good OL that we could have drafted and developed in his place which could have been really helpful this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Jerry really needs to stop picking guys coming off injury problems in college. See Mark Bradley, Dusty Davorewhatever (is he alive? I dont even know.) Airease Curie, and now this guy.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixote Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Jerry really needs to stop picking guys coming off injury problems in college. See Mark Bradley, Dusty Davorewhatever (is he alive? I dont even know.) Airease Curie, and now this guy.. You must not have watched the game against SF, if you had you would definately know Dusty is alive and well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 How much have things changed? Back in 1985 it was common for day-one draft picks to wait their turn for 1-2, sometimes 3 years before getting on the field. Free agency changed that. Now after Dusty gets IR'd by JA for a minimal issue he gets hurt the next year blocking on a KR and now he's a bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 You must not have watched the game against SF, if you had you would definately know Dusty is alive and well! HE PLAYED? Haha well good.. I didn't get to see the game unfortunately I heard Orton played really well and Kevin Jones had a nice run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixote Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 HE PLAYED? Haha well good.. I didn't get to see the game unfortunately I heard Orton played really well and Kevin Jones had a nice run. He was very good, this guy is going to make an outstanding DT. Great motor, strong, good technique, put next to Tommie, will remind us of Hampton/McMichael combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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