GrizzlyBear Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Ok I have read all the things I can here, From the extreme of one side saying it Orton, to another saying its Turner. The funny thing is we dominated every quarter on time possession and percentage of total net yards. We out played TB in almost every aspect of the game. With exception of the number passes. But our average of net yards per pass was greater then TB. Offensively The Bears are on track as wierd as it may seem, at least by the stats. Defensively its another story. Babich maybe the culprit or maybe Lovie wanting him to run it it a certain way. But either way you look at it, it smells pretty bad. Holding TB to 47 total rushing yards say the D line was preforming in that aspect. But pressure on the QB was non existant and tight coverage on reacievers was abscent as well. All the passes that greise got were fast hit slants all day long. Not one break on the ball to shut it down, no jamming at the line. Could it be the play of our CB's? I doubt it. They have proven to be good solid CB in the past. Both are healthy. To me it has to be the scheme. Its the only thing that makes any sense for a talented team as the Bears to play so lousy and out of sink. Its almost like watching a new system installed. Url has been not himself. Harris has been not himself. The CB's are playing like they are extra cautious. It would have to be coaching. Link to gamelog Take a look at the Game log and see if you come up with the samething as I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 No matter what I look at, I seem to just feel sick to my stomach... Ok I have read all the things I can here, From the extreme of one side saying it Orton, to another saying its Turner. The funny thing is we dominated every quarter on time possession and percentage of total net yards. We out played TB in almost every aspect of the game. With exception of the number passes. But our average of net yards per pass was greater then TB. Offensively The Bears are on track as wierd as it may seem, at least by the stats. Defensively its another story. Babich maybe the culprit or maybe Lovie wanting him to run it it a certain way. But either way you look at it, it smells pretty bad. Holding TB to 47 total rushing yards say the D line was preforming in that aspect. But pressure on the QB was non existant and tight coverage on reacievers was abscent as well. All the passes that greise got were fast hit slants all day long. Not one break on the ball to shut it down, no jamming at the line. Could it be the play of our CB's? I doubt it. They have proven to be good solid CB in the past. Both are healthy. To me it has to be the scheme. Its the only thing that makes any sense for a talented team as the Bears to play so lousy and out of sink. Its almost like watching a new system installed. Url has been not himself. Harris has been not himself. The CB's are playing like they are extra cautious. It would have to be coaching. Link to gamelog Take a look at the Game log and see if you come up with the samething as I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrizzlyBear Posted September 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 I understand completely, The sickness is contagious. So please keep your distance. But the over all of it rather eye opening. The d line was excetional in stopping the run. Saying that it seems like our DB's is the major problem. Is it scheme or is it Lack of talent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TerraTor Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 I understand completely, The sickness is contagious. So please keep your distance. But the over all of it rather eye opening. The d line was excetional in stopping the run. Saying that it seems like our DB's is the major problem. Is it scheme or is it Lack of talent? never blitzing brian griese doesnt help... look what we did to Carolina and Indy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Ha! Yep...some of the numbers look good. Some look bad. It's the "L" that hurts... I think it's more than scheme and talent. It's also motivation and conditioning. Our team lacks motivation (stupid penalties, drops, etc.) , lacks conditioning (just read about TB's reaction to us after the game), lacks good schemes (on D as nfo has spelled out at length, and on O where Turner seems to call at least on bone-head series per game), and talent (Davis' drops, Orton's inaccuracy, no sacks, etc...) It's a molotov cocktail of bad... Seems like it could be something that could turn around. But, I fear it won't and history (last year in particular) will repeat itself. I am hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst. I understand completely, The sickness is contagious. So please keep your distance. But the over all of it rather eye opening. The d line was excetional in stopping the run. Saying that it seems like our DB's is the major problem. Is it scheme or is it Lack of talent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrizzlyBear Posted September 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Ha! Yep...some of the numbers look good. Some look bad. It's the "L" that hurts... I think it's more than scheme and talent. It's also motivation and conditioning. Our team lacks motivation (stupid penalties, drops, etc.) , lacks conditioning (just read about TB's reaction to us after the game), lacks good schemes (on D as nfo has spelled out at length, and on O where Turner seems to call at least on bone-head series per game), and talent (Davis' drops, Orton's inaccuracy, no sacks, etc...) It's a molotov cocktail of bad... Seems like it could be something that could turn around. But, I fear it won't and history (last year in particular) will repeat itself. I am hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst. Been looking for the TB reactions , Where you seeing that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azbearsfan Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 never blitzing brian griese doesnt help... look what we did to Carolina and Indy... Oh they blitzed him.....it just got picked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Im pretty sure we got our asses handed to us in TOP in the 4th quarter and overtime, basically when we got outscored 13-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfoligno Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Nope. Not even close. 4th Quarter. Bears - 8:52. TB - 6:08. OT was the only period we did not win the TOP battle. Im pretty sure we got our asses handed to us in TOP in the 4th quarter and overtime, basically when we got outscored 13-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 I read it in the Trib on line I think... They stated to the effect that the bears players seemed tired... Been looking for the TB reactions , Where you seeing that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 Ok I have read all the things I can here, From the extreme of one side saying it Orton, to another saying its Turner. The funny thing is we dominated every quarter on time possession and percentage of total net yards. We out played TB in almost every aspect of the game. With exception of the number passes. But our average of net yards per pass was greater then TB. Offensively The Bears are on track as wierd as it may seem, at least by the stats. Defensively its another story. Babich maybe the culprit or maybe Lovie wanting him to run it it a certain way. But either way you look at it, it smells pretty bad. Holding TB to 47 total rushing yards say the D line was preforming in that aspect. But pressure on the QB was non existant and tight coverage on reacievers was abscent as well. All the passes that greise got were fast hit slants all day long. Not one break on the ball to shut it down, no jamming at the line. Could it be the play of our CB's? I doubt it. They have proven to be good solid CB in the past. Both are healthy. To me it has to be the scheme. Its the only thing that makes any sense for a talented team as the Bears to play so lousy and out of sink. Its almost like watching a new system installed. Url has been not himself. Harris has been not himself. The CB's are playing like they are extra cautious. It would have to be coaching. Link to gamelog Take a look at the Game log and see if you come up with the samething as I did. There's a saying about stats that equates them with lies. I'd say that in this case, that idea is true. The offense had ten yards or less on a ton of possessions, and when that happens it's just not good enough. The T.O.P. battle is a two way street. You have to look at how long the offense "kept it", and how quickly the defense "gave it back to them". I called out the entire coaching staff, and I feel it was warranted. Both need to step up, but the offense has sucked for quite some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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