chitownman Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Hey Gang, With the retirement supposedly of Brett Favre once again from the Jets, speculation is that Mark Sanchez is going to fall all the way down to the 17th pick which the Jets currently own. I know that we need a lot of help on both sides of the ball however, would it be in our best interest if Sanchez is falling that far down that some how Angelo gets his head out of his ass and moves up one or two spots to grab Sanchez. It would be nice to obtain a great receiver however, if we are not able to get the ball to him down field, what the hell good is the receiver to us? It just seems that as the draft goes on and Sanchez has not moved, that the Bears talk with the teams at 15 & 16 and see if there is a deal that could be made and we get a kid who appears to have great pro potential even if Pete Carroll feels that Sanchez is leaving college to soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Hey Gang, With the retirement supposedly of Brett Favre once again from the Jets, speculation is that Mark Sanchez is going to fall all the way down to the 17th pick which the Jets currently own. I know that we need a lot of help on both sides of the ball however, would it be in our best interest if Sanchez is falling that far down that some how Angelo gets his head out of his ass and moves up one or two spots to grab Sanchez. It would be nice to obtain a great receiver however, if we are not able to get the ball to him down field, what the hell good is the receiver to us? It just seems that as the draft goes on and Sanchez has not moved, that the Bears talk with the teams at 15 & 16 and see if there is a deal that could be made and we get a kid who appears to have great pro potential even if Pete Carroll feels that Sanchez is leaving college to soon. I have said before. I completely agree with you there. But only if he falls. Most mocks have him going top 5. The one thing that Orton blows at is his consistency downfield. This happens to be something that Sanchez is good at. Not saying that he is great at. But I have seen enough games to know that he does know how to get the ball downfield to Hester. Sanchez to Hester could be a REAL LETHAL WEAPON. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 I just don't see it. JA has pretty much focussed on trading down and not up. I can't recall the odd instance where he did, but I htink it was in later rounds. I'm not so sure Sanchez is the man, but even assuming he was, given Angelo's past behavior, there's nothing that makes me think he'd ever trade up in round one. Even if the second coming of Johnny Unitas was staring him square in the eyes on slot before ours... Hey Gang, With the retirement supposedly of Brett Favre once again from the Jets, speculation is that Mark Sanchez is going to fall all the way down to the 17th pick which the Jets currently own. I know that we need a lot of help on both sides of the ball however, would it be in our best interest if Sanchez is falling that far down that some how Angelo gets his head out of his ass and moves up one or two spots to grab Sanchez. It would be nice to obtain a great receiver however, if we are not able to get the ball to him down field, what the hell good is the receiver to us? It just seems that as the draft goes on and Sanchez has not moved, that the Bears talk with the teams at 15 & 16 and see if there is a deal that could be made and we get a kid who appears to have great pro potential even if Pete Carroll feels that Sanchez is leaving college to soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 I think it's something we should do but I don't think it's something JA will do. If Sanchez falls I can see him taking him and saying he was too good to pass up. If he trades up and goes after him then it's saying that we don't think Orton is the man. That doesn't match the retoric coming out of Halas Hall. A 2nd or more likely 3rd Rd pick on a QB fits in easier while giving him the option of going after one in Rd 1 next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balta1701-A Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Given the Bears' QB situation, if Sanchez falls, you make someone dramatically overpay in that 5 minutes for your slot or you take him unless you really don't like him for some reason. We're not in a position to go with our QB rotation in 2010 being: 1. Caleb Hanie, 2. Profit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 I really don't think so...Orton can still be the "man", while grooming the next behind him. At some point, you either continue with Orton is he performs, or you bring on the new kid. Sanchez falls I can see him taking him and saying he was too good to pass up. If he trades up and goes after him then it's saying that we don't think Orton is the man. That doesn't match the retoric coming out of Halas Hall. A 2nd or more likely 3rd Rd pick on a QB fits in easier while giving him the option of going after one in Rd 1 next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 I'd tend to agree.... Given the Bears' QB situation, if Sanchez falls, you make someone dramatically overpay in that 5 minutes for your slot or you take him unless you really don't like him for some reason. We're not in a position to go with our QB rotation in 2010 being: 1. Caleb Hanie, 2. Profit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TerraTor Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Hey Gang, With the retirement suposedly of Brett Favre once again from the Jets, speculation is that Mark Sanchez is going to fall all the way down to the 17th pick which the Jets currently own. I know that we need a lot of help on both sides of the ball however, would it be in our best interest if Sanchez is falling that far down that some how Angelo gets his head out of his ass and moves up one or two spots to grab Sanchez. It would be nice to obtain a great receiver however, if we are not able to get the ball to him down field, what the hell good is the receiver to us? It just seems that as the draft goes on and Sanchez has not moved, that the Bears talk with the teams at 15 & 16 and see if there is a deal that could be made and we get a kid who appears to have great pro potential even if Pete Carroll feels that Sanchez is leaving college to soon. Id vomit on CrackerDog if that happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azbearsfan Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Id vomit on CrackerDog if that happened Yeah I'm not sold on Sanchez at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradjock Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Based on the draft, to move up two spots would probably cost a 2nd rounder . . . at the minimum a 3rd. Hell, possibly a first. Is it really worth it for Sanchez??? This sick part of this is by making the deal, you pretty much have to let him start . . . even if he's an ass-hat. Technically you don't have to, but teams always do it. Remember when we traded Thomas Jones? Thanks for Cedric JA. Remember in the 2006 draft when their were cries to trade up for Vernon Davis at #6? The next year we draft Olsen at #31. Would any of you give up Olsen for Davis right now? Hell now. If you would, you're an idiot. If Sanchez is there at #18 we'd have to think about it. But to hell with trading up. Hey Gang, With the retirement supposedly of Brett Favre once again from the Jets, speculation is that Mark Sanchez is going to fall all the way down to the 17th pick which the Jets currently own. I know that we need a lot of help on both sides of the ball however, would it be in our best interest if Sanchez is falling that far down that some how Angelo gets his head out of his ass and moves up one or two spots to grab Sanchez. It would be nice to obtain a great receiver however, if we are not able to get the ball to him down field, what the hell good is the receiver to us? It just seems that as the draft goes on and Sanchez has not moved, that the Bears talk with the teams at 15 & 16 and see if there is a deal that could be made and we get a kid who appears to have great pro potential even if Pete Carroll feels that Sanchez is leaving college to soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownman Posted February 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Problem is that I have never been sold on Orton all though he did pleasantly surprise me this season until he hurt his ankle. Fortunately I would imagine the mistake of Grossman in Chicago is going to finally be over. We should never spent a first round pick on this dead weight. Haine seems to show promise however, not sure he is the one either. Then we sign Basanez who really is nothing worth a damn and I do not see a viable free-agent available. If Sanchez is there later in the first round I think he has to much upside potential that I would take a chance and see what happens. If we do not get someone decent in 2009, who would be the most sought after QB in 2010. Don't even think of Tebow, I am not sold on that marshmallow. Granted Florida's program is a bit better with Urban Meyer than it was with Steve Spurrier however, just not convinced Tebow will be worth anything either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Based on the draft, to move up two spots would probably cost a 2nd rounder . . . at the minimum a 3rd. Hell, possibly a first. Is it really worth it for Sanchez??? This sick part of this is by making the deal, you pretty much have to let him start . . . even if he's an ass-hat. Technically you don't have to, but teams always do it. Remember when we traded Thomas Jones? Thanks for Cedric JA. Remember in the 2006 draft when their were cries to trade up for Vernon Davis at #6? The next year we draft Olsen at #31. Would any of you give up Olsen for Davis right now? Hell now. If you would, you're an idiot. If Sanchez is there at #18 we'd have to think about it. But to hell with trading up. I can't imagine we'd have to give up a 2nd Rd pick just to swap two spots in Rd 1 (18-16). I'm sure someone smarter than me can find what was given up in past draft day trades like that. What did we get from Buffalo that year we traded down with them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Problem is that I have never been sold on Orton all though he did pleasantly surprise me this season until he hurt his ankle. Fortunately I would imagine the mistake of Grossman in Chicago is going to finally be over. We should never spent a first round pick on this dead weight. Haine seems to show promise however, not sure he is the one either. Then we sign Basanez who really is nothing worth a damn and I do not see a viable free-agent available. If Sanchez is there later in the first round I think he has to much upside potential that I would take a chance and see what happens. If we do not get someone decent in 2009, who would be the most sought after QB in 2010. Don't even think of Tebow, I am not sold on that marshmallow. Granted Florida's program is a bit better with Urban Meyer than it was with Steve Spurrier however, just not convinced Tebow will be worth anything either. I completely agree with you about Tim Tebow. I really like him because of his athleticism but that is pretty much where that stops. We have to keep in mind that Florida's offense does not and will not produce a good pro QB any time soon. I don't think Tebow will make a good QB in this league however I think he possibly turn into a decent TE in the league which it has been rumored that he would move to either RB or TE in his switch to the pros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balta1701-A Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 I can't imagine we'd have to give up a 2nd Rd pick just to swap two spots in Rd 1 (18-16). I'm sure someone smarter than me can find what was given up in past draft day trades like that. What did we get from Buffalo that year we traded down with them? 2006 Bills — Traded 2006 second round pick (#42-Danieal Manning), 2006 third round pick (#73-Dusty Dvoracek) to Bears for 2006 first round pick (#26-John McCargo) on 2006-04-29 With the Bears already having Orton and at least having the (not a good option) franchise tag available, trading up for a QB doesn't strike me as intelligent unless the Bears see something in Sanchez they really, really like. The #3 QB on the list, Josh Freeman from K-State, might be a reasonable option who isn't that far below Sanchez, and he might also drop in to the 2nd depending on his workout performances. Conversely, trading up for a QB doesn't seem like something the Bears would do, and frankly, they have enough need of players that I wouldn't sacrifice a 2nd or 3rd rounder on moving up a little bit to get one. If someone falls, grab him or make someone overpay for your pick. If not, then the Bears have a wide enough variety of needs that they can almost go BPA at their slot and no one will be mad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chwtom Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 If he wouldn't trade up 2 spots last year to get the clear 2nd best LT in the draft in Clady, and instead settled on someone who could've been taken anywhere from 14-30, I don't see him moving up to get an underclassman QB with question marks. Keep in mind its almost unheard of for an underclassman QB to succeed. Aside from big Ben, they almost as a rule fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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