We need to go shoplifting and steal this guy!!!!!

[Wesson44]

CARDINALS SHOPPING BOLDIN

Posted by Mike Florio on March 12, 2009, 3:59 p.m.

Kurt Warner might get to keep his $2 million, after all.

 

A league source tells us that the Arizona Cardinals are shopping receiver Anquan Boldin to potential trade partners.

 

Warner recently has suggested that he’d devote a portion of his salary to signing Boldin to a new contract. (We don’t think Warner really means it.)

 

Boldin, a six-year veteran, is signed through 2010. He has wanted for roughly a year a significant increase from his current range of $2.5 million to $3 million.

 

With teammate Larry Fitzgerald at $10 million per year, Boldin is believed to want at least $9 million annually.

 

Boldin previously has requested a trade. At one point after the Super Bowl, Boldin said that he would not sign a new deal with the Cardinals, and that he wanted to be dealt to a new team. More recently, he had softened in his position, expressing a willingness to consider a new long-term contract to stay with the team

[Ed Hochuli 3:16]

Get Shaffer, Weaver, Boldin, and everyone else, right?

 

Stop with these threads. It's super annoying.

[Wesson44]

Get Shaffer, Weaver, Boldin, and everyone else, right?

 

Stop with these threads. It's super annoying.

Whats annoying is you making comments like that. Hey you don't have to read the things I post. I want to see what others are thinking on the board about making this team better, not just your one sided opinion's.

[Connorbear]

Whats annoying is you making comments like that. Hey you don't have to read the things I post. I want to see what others are thinking on the board about making this team better, not just your one sided opinion's.

Keep posting. Like you said, people can ignore if they do not want to read it.

 

Peace

[Wesson44]

Keep posting. Like you said, people can ignore if they do not want to read it.

 

Peace

Thanks ConnorBear

[akshaz]

Get Shaffer, Weaver, Boldin, and everyone else, right?

 

Stop with these threads. It's super annoying.

 

Uhhh, we ARE in desparate need of help at the WR position. If Boldin is once again available, that is very relevant.

 

It may take a king's ransom to get him though. I'd love to have him. But, does anyone believe that we'll actually pay that type of money?

[Stinger226]

Probably not likely with quite a good draft for WRs but a nice thought considering we have the money and the need. As far as annoying, your thought that DT is a need is annoying, we all have opinions so thats my thought.

[Stinger226]

My reply was for Brianbear, not Wesson44, you cleary have a handle on everything Bears.

[defiantgiant]

Obviously it would be awesome to get a legit, established #1 wideout. The Cards don't have a reason to trade him unless they're cleaning up in the deal, though. He's under contract (relatively cheaply) through 2010. It's true that he's been vocal about wanting out, but he's made it clear that he'll still produce on the field even when he's unhappy about his contract. It sucks that being a professional is kind of working against him, but the fact is that Arizona doesn't have any incentive to trade him unless they're getting huge value in return.

[balta1701-A]

The big problem is...If I'm the Bears, I don't want to give up my first rounder unless I'm getting a top-of-the-line QB. A top of the line WR just isn't enough for me to be willing to go in to next season without additional O-Line help. And if I'm the cardinals, i don't care if he's holding out, I don't give him up unless I'm getting at least a 1st rounder back.

[nfoligno]

The way I would look at it is, if on draft day, the OTs are gone and we are looking at using our 1st round pick on a WR, I would much rather send that 1st to Az and get Boldin. Most of the WRs I like in the draft are referred to as potentially being like Boldin. If we are going to use our 1st on a WR, why not just get the real thing.

 

But I would not want to make a deal prior to the draft. I still think OL is our top need, and like several who could be available in the draft. If all are gone however, I would be all for this trade.

 

Part of me does wonder however whether it would even take a 1st. If az is willing to trade him, which I am not sold on, and the market for him is not a 1st round pick, could we not try to get him for less? What if we talk to Az about packaging our 2nd this year, and another high pick next? Maybe that doesn't get it done, but I would be on the phone talking to Az about it.

 

CARDINALS SHOPPING BOLDIN

Posted by Mike Florio on March 12, 2009, 3:59 p.m.

Kurt Warner might get to keep his $2 million, after all.

 

A league source tells us that the Arizona Cardinals are shopping receiver Anquan Boldin to potential trade partners.

 

Warner recently has suggested that he’d devote a portion of his salary to signing Boldin to a new contract. (We don’t think Warner really means it.)

 

Boldin, a six-year veteran, is signed through 2010. He has wanted for roughly a year a significant increase from his current range of $2.5 million to $3 million.

 

With teammate Larry Fitzgerald at $10 million per year, Boldin is believed to want at least $9 million annually.

 

Boldin previously has requested a trade. At one point after the Super Bowl, Boldin said that he would not sign a new deal with the Cardinals, and that he wanted to be dealt to a new team. More recently, he had softened in his position, expressing a willingness to consider a new long-term contract to stay with the team

[Stinger226]

The way I would look at it is, if on draft day, the OTs are gone and we are looking at using our 1st round pick on a WR, I would much rather send that 1st to Az and get Boldin. Most of the WRs I like in the draft are referred to as potentially being like Boldin. If we are going to use our 1st on a WR, why not just get the real thing.

 

But I would not want to make a deal prior to the draft. I still think OL is our top need, and like several who could be available in the draft. If all are gone however, I would be all for this trade.

 

Part of me does wonder however whether it would even take a 1st. If az is willing to trade him, which I am not sold on, and the market for him is not a 1st round pick, could we not try to get him for less? What if we talk to Az about packaging our 2nd this year, and another high pick next? Maybe that doesn't get it done, but I would be on the phone talking to Az about it.

I think with so many potential Wrs that could be good, that JerryGM would rather draft one than give up a couple of high draft picks and knowing he is getting a high dollar contract with Boldin.If they thought we were close to going to a Superbowl as Lovie professes, then they would go after someone like Boldin, but being we have so many holes to fill, they act more like a rebulding team so go with the draft pick.

[BearSox]

I'd gladly send our 1st and 3rd over to Arizona for Boldin and the money that comes along with him.

 

However, I doubt it. I personally think JA wants Lovie to fail and move on in a different direction, and that doesn't involve making any huge splashes. I think what we are doing this offseason is for the future.

[Ed Hochuli 3:16]

Probably not likely with quite a good draft for WRs but a nice thought considering we have the money and the need. As far as annoying, your thought that DT is a need is annoying, we all have opinions so thats my thought.

So you're satisfied with Adams, Harris, Harrison, and Idonije as our 4 best DT's this upcoming year? On my "how good a player is" line (bad-medicore-average-solid-good-very good), 2 of those guys are solid (Idonije, Adams) and 2 are good (Harris, Harrison) but Tommie becomes medicore when he's hurt which seems like all the time now.

 

But back to this- are all these threads necessary? We're not going to get Shaffer or Boldin. Teams like Minnesota, NYJ, NYG, Philly, and maybe even the Ravens would give up a 1st, a 3rd, and probably a 3rd next year for Boldin. They're desperate. Plus, do you really expect Angelo to send 3 picks, 2 of which are in the first 3 rounds, over for Boldin? LOL. As far as Shaffer goes- we're going to bank on St Clair coming back and that's it.

 

I'm surprised the "Ken Lucas released- GO GET HIM ANGELO WE NEEDZ A DB BADDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!" thread hasn't came out yet.

[Stinger226]

So you're satisfied with Adams, Harris, Harrison, and Idonije as our 4 best DT's this upcoming year? On my "how good a player is" line (bad-medicore-average-solid-good-very good), 2 of those guys are solid (Idonije, Adams) and 2 are good (Harris, Harrison) but Tommie becomes medicore when he's hurt which seems like all the time now.

 

But back to this- are all these threads necessary? We're not going to get Shaffer or Boldin. Teams like Minnesota, NYJ, NYG, Philly, and maybe even the Ravens would give up a 1st, a 3rd, and probably a 3rd next year for Boldin. They're desperate. Plus, do you really expect Angelo to send 3 picks, 2 of which are in the first 3 rounds, over for Boldin? LOL. As far as Shaffer goes- we're going to bank on St Clair coming back and that's it.

 

I'm surprised the "Ken Lucas released- GO GET HIM ANGELO WE NEEDZ A DB BADDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!" thread hasn't came out yet.

All I was trying to say was we have areas of need in several other places before we get to DT. Anytime we can get better at a posiition I m all for it, just should address them first. I donjt think we have enough draft picks to fill all of our needs this year.

[DABEARSDABOMB]

So the Bears aren't going after holt and talk about the need for a #1 WR. Why not show it by putting in a serious offer for Boldin.

[ParkerBear7]

All I was trying to say was we have areas of need in several other places before we get to DT. Anytime we can get better at a posiition I m all for it, just should address them first. I donjt think we have enough draft picks to fill all of our needs this year.

 

 

I absoulutley agree with you Stinger that DT is not as high of a need as OL, WR, OL, WR, FS, DE, LB, CB then FB and finally DT. We have very good depth at DT especiallly when DD is healthy. Also, the DT pos is not as deep as OL, WR, and LB are in the draft so that should also drive our FA and Draft strategies.

 

By the way Ken Lucas would be a great addition and I would loved to be a ble to pull of a trade for Culter and or Boldin!

 

It does not matter how great our "D" is if we can not put points on the board. A strong "D" may get a team to the superbowl but the "O" is going to have to win a superbowl! I am personaly tired of watching a mediocre vanilla offense that can not get first downs let alone score TDs. It is time that this organization steps up and puts a professionl offense together!

[AZ54]

You gotta fork over the cash for Boldin plus this guy is often injured. It's his style of play, the same thing I love about him, that gets him hurt. 2nd Rd pick is what I'd offer and I think if that offer is there on draft day the Cards will take it.

 

As far as the pipe dream that Boldin is available or that we'd go after him it's not unrealistic. The Cards have Fitz and Steve Breaston and behind them they have last years 3rd Rd pick Early Doucet. Breaston had 1000 yards last year. If they think Doucet is ready to step in and play (and my devoted Card fan friend thinks they do) then why wouldn't they trade Boldin now when he has his highest trade value? The alternative is to give him a huge signing bonus and $8-9 mil/yr at which point the cap hit for a future trade doesn't work in the near term? With the 2nd Rd pick they'd get they can draft another WR to fill in the 4th WR spot, or take one in the 3rd Rd again.

 

They just gave Warner $11.5 mil/yr and he did just fine without Boldin during the regular season and again when he went out in the playoffs. Maybe a lot of folks don't realize a big chunk of the Cards playoff run was done without Boldin but that type of thing catches the eye of a GM and head coach. If they figure they can keep 90% of their passing game effectiveness while using that 2nd Rd pick and/or free cash to upgrade their running game or defense by 20% they are going to do it.

[ParkerBear7]

You gotta fork over the cash for Boldin plus this guy is often injured. It's his style of play, the same thing I love about him, that gets him hurt. 2nd Rd pick is what I'd offer and I think if that offer is there on draft day the Cards will take it.

 

As far as the pipe dream that Boldin is available or that we'd go after him it's not unrealistic. The Cards have Fitz and Steve Breaston and behind them they have last years 3rd Rd pick Early Doucet. Breaston had 1000 yards last year. If they think Doucet is ready to step in and play (and my devoted Card fan friend thinks they do) then why wouldn't they trade Boldin now when he has his highest trade value? The alternative is to give him a huge signing bonus and $8-9 mil/yr at which point the cap hit for a future trade doesn't work in the near term? With the 2nd Rd pick they'd get they can draft another WR to fill in the 4th WR spot, or take one in the 3rd Rd again.

 

They just gave Warner $11.5 mil/yr and he did just fine without Boldin during the regular season and again when he went out in the playoffs. Maybe a lot of folks don't realize a big chunk of the Cards playoff run was done without Boldin but that type of thing catches the eye of a GM and head coach. If they figure they can keep 90% of their passing game effectiveness while using that 2nd Rd pick and/or free cash to upgrade their running game or defense by 20% they are going to do it.

 

The only point that I could add is that one could argue that Boldin could stay healthier with a team like Chicago that "gets off the bus running " but seriously he would make this team better. I would choose Cutler iver Boldin if it was possible but I don't think the Bears want to win.

[brletich]

So you're satisfied with Adams, Harris, Harrison, and Idonije as our 4 best DT's this upcoming year? On my "how good a player is" line (bad-medicore-average-solid-good-very good), 2 of those guys are solid (Idonije, Adams) and 2 are good (Harris, Harrison) but Tommie becomes medicore when he's hurt which seems like all the time now.

 

But back to this- are all these threads necessary? We're not going to get Shaffer or Boldin. Teams like Minnesota, NYJ, NYG, Philly, and maybe even the Ravens would give up a 1st, a 3rd, and probably a 3rd next year for Boldin. They're desperate. Plus, do you really expect Angelo to send 3 picks, 2 of which are in the first 3 rounds, over for Boldin? LOL. As far as Shaffer goes- we're going to bank on St Clair coming back and that's it.

 

I'm surprised the "Ken Lucas released- GO GET HIM ANGELO WE NEEDZ A DB BADDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!" thread hasn't came out yet.

 

Maybe they aren't "necessary", but neither is coming to this board. The man put a thread out there about someone at a position of need. Whether we will in reality get the player or not makes no difference. It sparks a discussion, which in this dreadfully slow offseason is something far from annoying.

[Stinger226]

You gotta fork over the cash for Boldin plus this guy is often injured. It's his style of play, the same thing I love about him, that gets him hurt. 2nd Rd pick is what I'd offer and I think if that offer is there on draft day the Cards will take it.

 

As far as the pipe dream that Boldin is available or that we'd go after him it's not unrealistic. The Cards have Fitz and Steve Breaston and behind them they have last years 3rd Rd pick Early Doucet. Breaston had 1000 yards last year. If they think Doucet is ready to step in and play (and my devoted Card fan friend thinks they do) then why wouldn't they trade Boldin now when he has his highest trade value? The alternative is to give him a huge signing bonus and $8-9 mil/yr at which point the cap hit for a future trade doesn't work in the near term? With the 2nd Rd pick they'd get they can draft another WR to fill in the 4th WR spot, or take one in the 3rd Rd again.

 

They just gave Warner $11.5 mil/yr and he did just fine without Boldin during the regular season and again when he went out in the playoffs. Maybe a lot of folks don't realize a big chunk of the Cards playoff run was done without Boldin but that type of thing catches the eye of a GM and head coach. If they figure they can keep 90% of their passing game effectiveness while using that 2nd Rd pick and/or free cash to upgrade their running game or defense by 20% they are going to do it.

I dont think they would give him up for a 2nd rounder unless it is a lot higher than ours. He can bitch all he wants, he cant go anywhere. He complained last year and didnt go anywhere. They are to many teams that need a receiver, to let him go cheaper than they think he might be worth.

[Mongo3451]

I'd gladly send our 1st and 3rd over to Arizona for Boldin and the money that comes along with him.

 

However, I doubt it. I personally think JA wants Lovie to fail and move on in a different direction, and that doesn't involve making any huge splashes. I think what we are doing this offseason is for the future.

Disagree - You don't get to the NFL by having any sort lof osing mentality. The Bears want to win. It's in everyones best interest.

 

 

You gotta fork over the cash for Boldin plus this guy is often injured. It's his style of play, the same thing I love about him, that gets him hurt. 2nd Rd pick is what I'd offer and I think if that offer is there on draft day the Cards will take it.

 

As far as the pipe dream that Boldin is available or that we'd go after him it's not unrealistic. The Cards have Fitz and Steve Breaston and behind them they have last years 3rd Rd pick Early Doucet. Breaston had 1000 yards last year. If they think Doucet is ready to step in and play (and my devoted Card fan friend thinks they do) then why wouldn't they trade Boldin now when he has his highest trade value? The alternative is to give him a huge signing bonus and $8-9 mil/yr at which point the cap hit for a future trade doesn't work in the near term? With the 2nd Rd pick they'd get they can draft another WR to fill in the 4th WR spot, or take one in the 3rd Rd again.

 

They just gave Warner $11.5 mil/yr and he did just fine without Boldin during the regular season and again when he went out in the playoffs. Maybe a lot of folks don't realize a big chunk of the Cards playoff run was done without Boldin but that type of thing catches the eye of a GM and head coach. If they figure they can keep 90% of their passing game effectiveness while using that 2nd Rd pick and/or free cash to upgrade their running game or defense by 20% they are going to do it.

It's does seem possible in light of the Cassell trade. Plus, it makes sense to the Cards to get any value when they can. They save 8 figures by trading him. And get to develop the talent they currently have.

 

 

Maybe they aren't "necessary", but neither is coming to this board. The man put a thread out there about someone at a position of need. Whether we will in reality get the player or not makes no difference. It sparks a discussion, which in this dreadfully slow offseason is something far from annoying.

Agreed, whole heartedly. What one person finds annoying, another may see as an opportunity to communicate their thoughts and share fellowship with friends.

 

 

I dont think they would give him up for a 2nd rounder unless it is a lot higher than ours. He can bitch all he wants, he cant go anywhere. He complained last year and didnt go anywhere. They are to many teams that need a receiver, to let him go cheaper than they think he might be worth.

Keep hope alive Stinger. This could happen for the reasons AZ54 stated. Heck, the Cards could have a guy in mind they really want our 2nd for and pull the trigger. Sometimes GM's just "gotta have em". I've seen wilder things happen.

[Stinger226]

Disagree - You don't get to the NFL by having any sort lof osing mentality. The Bears want to win. It's in everyones best interest.

 

 

 

It's does seem possible in light of the Cassell trade. Plus, it makes sense to the Cards to get any value when they can. They save 8 figures by trading him. And get to develop the talent they currently have.

 

 

 

Agreed, whole heartedly. What one person finds annoying, another may see as an opportunity to communicate their thoughts and share fellowship with friends.

 

 

 

Keep hope alive Stinger. This could happen for the reasons AZ54 stated. Heck, the Cards could have a guy in mind they really want our 2nd for and pull the trigger. Sometimes GM's just "gotta have em". I've seen wilder things happen.

Dont get me wrong would love it to happen, just trying apply logic to my usually positive attitude.