dawhizz Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 I had always kind of figured on the Bears drafting a WR early (round 1 or 2) and then another WR late (round 5-7), but the way the draft is shaping up, I wonder if it might be wise to go WR with both 3rd round picks. Let's say an OT is the pick in the first (Britton would be the most likely candidate here). If you want a FS to compete right away for a starting spot (and, personally, I do) I think the second round is the place to get one, whether you want one of the projects (Sean Smith or Jairus Byrd) or one of the true FSs (Louis Delmas, Rashad Johnson, Darcel McBath, William Moore). That still leaves a glaring hole at WR, but the Bears seem to be doing a lot of scouting on those middle round WRs. So maybe you take a deep threat and a possession guy by mixing and matching whoever is left out of guys like Collie, Iglesias, Massaquoi, Tate, Barden, Dillard, Gibson, whoever. If you've shorn up RT, and move Omiyale to OG for sure, I think I would be pretty comfortable with bringing in two of those guys and seeing what they can do (hopefully more than Bennett did last year). Would you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 I had always kind of figured on the Bears drafting a WR early (round 1 or 2) and then another WR late (round 5-7), but the way the draft is shaping up, I wonder if it might be wise to go WR with both 3rd round picks. Let's say an OT is the pick in the first (Britton would be the most likely candidate here). If you want a FS to compete right away for a starting spot (and, personally, I do) I think the second round is the place to get one, whether you want one of the projects (Sean Smith or Jairus Byrd) or one of the true FSs (Louis Delmas, Rashad Johnson, Darcel McBath, William Moore). That still leaves a glaring hole at WR, but the Bears seem to be doing a lot of scouting on those middle round WRs. So maybe you take a deep threat and a possession guy by mixing and matching whoever is left out of guys like Collie, Iglesias, Massaquoi, Tate, Barden, Dillard, Gibson, whoever. If you've shorn up RT, and move Omiyale to OG for sure, I think I would be pretty comfortable with bringing in two of those guys and seeing what they can do (hopefully more than Bennett did last year). Would you? I think they would project a WR in rd 3 but doubt if they would rate 2 so closely for valve. I think they will also draft a DE and maybe in the 4th or 5 th go with another WR. Lets say they pick Massaquoi or Gibson for our PWR in rd3 and Wallace/Ole Miss or Knox/AbCris for a speed guy in a later rd. Both are 4.3+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Massaquoi isn't a 3rd. He'll be lucky to go in the 5th. Our staff now believes in Bennett. We'll go with 1 WR in the the first 3 rounds and stop. If we did go with 2 in the 3rd, any of these combinations would work for me: Barden-Gibson Barden-Iglesias Barden-Murphy Barden-Derrick Williams Williams-Gibson Williams-Iglesias Williams-Murphy Murphy-Iglesias Murphy-Gibson Gibson-Williams Gibson-Iglesias Kevin Ogletree out of Virginia is a solid 4th round possession WR prospect, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 I had always kind of figured on the Bears drafting a WR early (round 1 or 2) and then another WR late (round 5-7), but the way the draft is shaping up, I wonder if it might be wise to go WR with both 3rd round picks. Let's say an OT is the pick in the first (Britton would be the most likely candidate here). If you want a FS to compete right away for a starting spot (and, personally, I do) I think the second round is the place to get one, whether you want one of the projects (Sean Smith or Jairus Byrd) or one of the true FSs (Louis Delmas, Rashad Johnson, Darcel McBath, William Moore). That still leaves a glaring hole at WR, but the Bears seem to be doing a lot of scouting on those middle round WRs. So maybe you take a deep threat and a possession guy by mixing and matching whoever is left out of guys like Collie, Iglesias, Massaquoi, Tate, Barden, Dillard, Gibson, whoever. If you've shorn up RT, and move Omiyale to OG for sure, I think I would be pretty comfortable with bringing in two of those guys and seeing what they can do (hopefully more than Bennett did last year). Would you? I actually quite like that idea. OT, FS, WR, WR sounds fine to me. Although, I would like OL, OL, WR, WR even more. 1. Duke 2. Loadholt 3. (two of the following four) Louis Murphy, Ramses Barden, Mohamed Massaquoi, Brandon Tate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 If we take Massaquoi or Tate in round 3, it'll be like the drafting of Wolfe all over again. These guys will be there when we pick in the 5th for crying out loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawhizz Posted March 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 If we take Massaquoi or Tate in round 3, it'll be like the drafting of Wolfe all over again. These guys will be there when we pick in the 5th for crying out loud. I don't understand why you keep saying that. You can certainly not like both players, but all I've seen suggests they are at least in the mix in the third round with the rest of those at this point, if you go by the projections on most draft sites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 I actually quite like that idea. OT, FS, WR, WR sounds fine to me. Although, I would like OL, OL, WR, WR even more. 1. Duke 2. Loadholt 3. (two of the following four) Louis Murphy, Ramses Barden, Mohamed Massaquoi, Brandon Tate I dont think Duke is a 1st rounder. Maybe the best OG but no more than a 2nd rounder. I have read much on the draft and other than the top 12 players, questions abound about all of them. I think he would still be there with our 2 nd round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 I don't understand why you keep saying that. You can certainly not like both players, but all I've seen suggests they are at least in the mix in the third round with the rest of those at this point, if you go by the projections on most draft sites. Brandon Tate probably won't even be ready for the year after he tore his ACL and MCL last year, and Massaqoui has been inconsistent his whole college career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawhizz Posted March 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Brandon Tate probably won't even be ready for the year after he tore his ACL and MCL last year, and Massaqoui has been inconsistent his whole college career. Those aren't reasons they will absolutely still be available in the 5th, though. You might not like them in the third/fourth rounds for those reasons, but there is plenty of evidence to suggest some teams might, and that the Bears might be one of those teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradjock Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 I had always kind of figured on the Bears drafting a WR early (round 1 or 2) and then another WR late (round 5-7), but the way the draft is shaping up, I wonder if it might be wise to go WR with both 3rd round picks. Let's say an OT is the pick in the first (Britton would be the most likely candidate here). If you want a FS to compete right away for a starting spot (and, personally, I do) I think the second round is the place to get one, whether you want one of the projects (Sean Smith or Jairus Byrd) or one of the true FSs (Louis Delmas, Rashad Johnson, Darcel McBath, William Moore). That still leaves a glaring hole at WR, but the Bears seem to be doing a lot of scouting on those middle round WRs. So maybe you take a deep threat and a possession guy by mixing and matching whoever is left out of guys like Collie, Iglesias, Massaquoi, Tate, Barden, Dillard, Gibson, whoever. If you've shorn up RT, and move Omiyale to OG for sure, I think I would be pretty comfortable with bringing in two of those guys and seeing what they can do (hopefully more than Bennett did last year). Would you? I'll take that one step further: One not draft a WR in round 1 & 3??? In 2003 Arizona went Bryan Johnson #1 & Anquan Boldin #2. The next season they surprised everyone by taking Larry Fitzgerald as the 3rd overall pick. There seems to be several "3rd round talent" WR's who should be around. Looking at http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/TSX/2009 at #84 & #98, who might be available include Iglesias, Mike Thomas, Louis Murphy, Mohammed Massaquoi, Derrick Williams, Kevin Ogletree, Ramses Barden & Jerrett Dillard. As it stands, we only have 3 NFL caliber WR's on the roster, and Rashied Davis needs to go back to special teams full time. Meanwhile there hasn't been a single rumor of the Bears showing interest in a WR. Tori Holt is making the rounds, but apparantly the Bears aren't on his list. On a side note, I wonder if there is a conflict between JA & Lovie with playing rookies. Last season, Angelo really didn't give Lovie much other choice then to start Chris Williams. I can see us not adding a veteran drafting a guy like DHB so that we're forced to start him as the #2. That being said, are we really sure that Angelo won't go DE or DT early??? Although we have 8 who are guaranteed to make the roster (Tommis Harris, Dusty Dvoracek, Anthony Adams, Marcus Harrison, Alex Brown, Adewale, Mark Anderson, Israel Idonije . . . plus Matt Toenia is around). But if Marinelli is really that good, we might actually take a "lets see what we have" approach. But I agree. Assuming we're not going to sign a veteran, which doesn't seem likely, we need to draft 2 WR's very early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerBear7 Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Here is an intringuing prospect in Dudley Guice - WR - Northwestern State that could be a late round selection: undefined Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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