Mid-Round Tackles

[dawhizz]

If the Bears don't go OT in the first (Britton) and Loadholt ends up being gone in the 2nd (or the Bears just don't like him), where should the Bears go at OT from there? The draft seems relatively thin after that as far as pure RTs are concerned (Fenuki Tupou, Garrett Reynolds and the rising Sebastian Vollmer seem the only pure, consensus RTs), but there are a number of either swing tackles who can arguably play LT and RT (Jason Watkins, Troy Kropog, Gerald Cadogan), pure LTs (Xavier Fulton) or OG/OT tweeners (T.J. Lang, Kraig Urbik, Herman Johnson). So, if the Bears pass on OT in the first two rounds, any of these guys a particularly good fit for the Bears? If we really planning to keep Omiyale at guard, don't we need a swing tackle who can back up Chris Williams AND Kevin Shaffer as much as we need a pure RT like Loadholt, who probably wouldn't be able to step in and help if Williams went down again?

[defiantgiant]

If the Bears don't go OT in the first (Britton) and Loadholt ends up being gone in the 2nd (or the Bears just don't like him), where should the Bears go at OT from there? The draft seems relatively thin after that as far as pure RTs are concerned (Fenuki Tupou, Garrett Reynolds and the rising Sebastian Vollmer seem the only pure, consensus RTs), but there are a number of either swing tackles who can arguably play LT and RT (Jason Watkins, Troy Kropog, Gerald Cadogan), pure LTs (Xavier Fulton) or OG/OT tweeners (T.J. Lang, Kraig Urbik, Herman Johnson). So, if the Bears pass on OT in the first two rounds, any of these guys a particularly good fit for the Bears? If we really planning to keep Omiyale at guard, don't we need a swing tackle who can back up Chris Williams AND Kevin Shaffer as much as we need a pure RT like Loadholt, who probably wouldn't be able to step in and help if Williams went down again?

 

My money would be on Fenuki Tupou. He'd definitely be a boost to the run game. Lang might end up a guard, but it's possible that he could stay at tackle. He'd be a good pickup either way: I think he'll be really good in the pros.

[bowlingtwig]

My money would be on Fenuki Tupou. He'd definitely be a boost to the run game. Lang might end up a guard, but it's possible that he could stay at tackle. He'd be a good pickup either way: I think he'll be really good in the pros.

If I am not mistaken one of the first Mocks I saw actually had us taking him in the 3rd I believe. If not the 3rd it was the 4th.

[akshaz]

If the Bears don't go OT in the first (Britton) and Loadholt ends up being gone in the 2nd (or the Bears just don't like him), where should the Bears go at OT from there? The draft seems relatively thin after that as far as pure RTs are concerned (Fenuki Tupou, Garrett Reynolds and the rising Sebastian Vollmer seem the only pure, consensus RTs), but there are a number of either swing tackles who can arguably play LT and RT (Jason Watkins, Troy Kropog, Gerald Cadogan), pure LTs (Xavier Fulton) or OG/OT tweeners (T.J. Lang, Kraig Urbik, Herman Johnson). So, if the Bears pass on OT in the first two rounds, any of these guys a particularly good fit for the Bears? If we really planning to keep Omiyale at guard, don't we need a swing tackle who can back up Chris Williams AND Kevin Shaffer as much as we need a pure RT like Loadholt, who probably wouldn't be able to step in and help if Williams went down again?

 

I would love to pick up an inside mauler like Johnson in the 3rd or 4th. Not sure if he'll still be there. But, I'd like the pick.

[Stinger226]

My money would be on Fenuki Tupou. He'd definitely be a boost to the run game. Lang might end up a guard, but it's possible that he could stay at tackle. He'd be a good pickup either way: I think he'll be really good in the pros.

I get into the draft and a lot of publications have as a knock on him is his passion for the game and football intelligence. There are some rated better than him that could be had there. Watkins/Flor, Fulton/Ill, and Kropog/Tulane.

[dawhizz]

With the Pace visit, it may all be moot. But the more I watch and read the more sold I am on Nicks and the less sold I am on Loadholt. I REALLY want Nicks in the first. As a result, I think at this point I would prefer to see us go something like:

 

1) Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina - Did I mention I love him?

2) Rashad Johnson, S, Alabama - Let's bring back a smart coverage guy at safety. That seems to have worked pretty well with Mike Brown.

3a) Troy Kropog, OT, Tulane - Can play at both RT and LT and is used to opening holes for Forte, though he may need to put on some weight to be an effective RT.

3b) Mitch King, DE, Iowa - So similar to Aaron Kampman, I can't help but think he'll do well at the next level. Can play inside and outside in our scheme.

4) Jarett Dillard, WR, Rice - Nice 3rd down/red zone WR who can catch and jump.

5) Ramon Foster, OT/OG, Tennessee - A versatile RT/OG to help out whereever.

6) Glover Quin, CB, New Mexico - Corey Graham 2.0.

7a) Stephen Hodge, LB/S, TCU - If he's still there, Lovie will want to draft him (they're related).

7b) Marcus Mailei, FB, Weber State - Strong blocker for the practice squad who might be able to challenge McKie after some development.

[ASHKUM BEAR]

With the Pace visit, it may all be moot. But the more I watch and read the more sold I am on Nicks and the less sold I am on Loadholt. I REALLY want Nicks in the first. As a result, I think at this point I would prefer to see us go something like:

 

1) Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina - Did I mention I love him?

2) Rashad Johnson, S, Alabama - Let's bring back a smart coverage guy at safety. That seems to have worked pretty well with Mike Brown.

3a) Troy Kropog, OT, Tulane - Can play at both RT and LT and is used to opening holes for Forte, though he may need to put on some weight to be an effective RT.

3b) Mitch King, DE, Iowa - So similar to Aaron Kampman, I can't help but think he'll do well at the next level. Can play inside and outside in our scheme.

4) Jarett Dillard, WR, Rice - Nice 3rd down/red zone WR who can catch and jump.

5) Ramon Foster, OT/OG, Tennessee - A versatile RT/OG to help out whereever.

6) Glover Quin, CB, New Mexico - Corey Graham 2.0.

7a) Stephen Hodge, LB/S, TCU - If he's still there, Lovie will want to draft him (they're related).

7b) Marcus Mailei, FB, Weber State - Strong blocker for the practice squad who might be able to challenge McKie after some development.

 

With the Pace/Lucas visit heres my mock:

1-trade to Denver along w/ 3rd and Vasher

2-Brian Robiskie WR

3-traded to Denver

3-Kraig Urbik OG

4-David Bruton FS

5-Vance Walker DT

6-Aaron Kelly WR

7-Graham Harrell QB

7-Victor Butler OLB

 

Hester Olsen Williams Omiyale Kreutz Shaffer Pace Clark Bennett

..............................................Cutler

..............................................Forte

[Stinger226]

With the Pace/Lucas visit heres my mock:

1-trade to Denver along w/ 3rd and Vasher

2-Brian Robiskie WR

3-traded to Denver

3-Kraig Urbik OG

4-David Bruton FS

5-Vance Walker DT

6-Aaron Kelly WR

7-Graham Harrell QB

7-Victor Butler OLB

 

Hester Olsen Williams Omiyale Kreutz Shaffer Pace Clark Bennett

..............................................Cutler

..............................................Forte

If we get Culter,. why draft Harrell? Kelly and Robiskie are similar type of Wrs, I would think they would add a speed guy later like a Knox/AB-4.34 speed. I would say with Shaffer and Williams playing guard, you already on backups in Beekman, Bueninng, Garza. Which means they draft a developmental OT for the future with Pace, and Schaffer not being youngsters.

[BearSox]

T.J. Lang is a guy to look out for in anywhere between the 3rd and 5th. Bears seem to really like him, and he seems like a solid prospect. He's a real good video by some pretty good draft analysts: