nfoligno Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 I have to believe we made this deal w/ the intention of keeping him long term, which means a new deal. While he is not due to hit FA for two more years, you gotta bet he wants to be paid. Now we can utilize that huge amount of cap space. It will be very curious to see just how big of a deal he gets, and further will be interesting to see the "bears are cheap" response when we give him a deal for likely $30m guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 I await my second helping of crow! I have to believe we made this deal w/ the intention of keeping him long term, which means a new deal. While he is not due to hit FA for two more years, you gotta bet he wants to be paid. Now we can utilize that huge amount of cap space. It will be very curious to see just how big of a deal he gets, and further will be interesting to see the "bears are cheap" response when we give him a deal for likely $30m guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 I await my second helping of crow! We can pay him next year, we will need the money to pay for Boldin when he gets here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfoligno Posted April 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 W/ $25m or more in cap space (not to mention money we no longer have to reserve for the 1st round pick) we have more than enough for both We can pay him next year, we will need the money to pay for Boldin when he gets here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balta1701-A Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Next year is still currently uncapped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 W/ $25m or more in cap space (not to mention money we no longer have to reserve for the 1st round pick) we have more than enough for both JEEBUS!!! WHO ARE YOU? THIS CAN'T BE NFO!!!! No way you're THIS positive... EVER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azbearsfan Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 JEEBUS!!! WHO ARE YOU? THIS CAN'T BE NFO!!!! No way you're THIS positive... EVER! Damn crack. I've missed you on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Damn crack. I've missed you on here. Been busy getting my life in order. But THIS was enough to bring me in for a looksee. What a day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azbearsfan Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Been busy getting my life in order. But THIS was enough to bring me in for a looksee. What a day! I hear ya. Hope everything is going well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connorbear Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 JEEBUS!!! WHO ARE YOU? THIS CAN'T BE NFO!!!! No way you're THIS positive... EVER! CRACKER!!!! Where have you been? Good to see you back. Hope all is well for you!! Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 CRACKER!!!! Where have you been? Good to see you back. Hope all is well for you!! Peace Oh my not only is NFO happy. Crack and NFO actually agree on something. My god what the hell is next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfoligno Posted April 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Um, I guess you haven't heard the news. Hell froze over yesterday. I'm worried. For something like yesterday to happen, I hope it is not a sign that, This city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions. Old Testament. Real wrath-of-God type stuff. Fire and brimstone coming down from the sky! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes... The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice. Dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria! Oh my not only is NFO happy. Crack and NFO actually agree on something. My god what the hell is next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Um, I guess you haven't heard the news. Hell froze over yesterday. I'm worried. For something like yesterday to happen, I hope it is not a sign that, This city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions. Old Testament. Real wrath-of-God type stuff. Fire and brimstone coming down from the sky! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes... The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice. Dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria! No kidding, I see what you are saying. Just for you 2 to get along can create mass hysteria. But I personally enjoy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azbearsfan Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Um, I guess you haven't heard the news. Hell froze over yesterday. I'm worried. For something like yesterday to happen, I hope it is not a sign that, This city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions. Old Testament. Real wrath-of-God type stuff. Fire and brimstone coming down from the sky! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes... The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice. Dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria! So be gooood for goooodness sakes. Whoaaaaa somebody's coming...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LT2_3 Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Um, I guess you haven't heard the news. Hell froze over yesterday. I'm worried. For something like yesterday to happen, I hope it is not a sign that, This city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions. Old Testament. Real wrath-of-God type stuff. Fire and brimstone coming down from the sky! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes... The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice. Dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria! Bonus points for quoting Ghostbusters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 I have to believe we made this deal w/ the intention of keeping him long term, which means a new deal. While he is not due to hit FA for two more years, you gotta bet he wants to be paid. Now we can utilize that huge amount of cap space. It will be very curious to see just how big of a deal he gets, and further will be interesting to see the "bears are cheap" response when we give him a deal for likely $30m guaranteed. Ya, what were the financial rammifications of the deal. Clearly Cutler is going to receive the largest contract in franchise history and by making this trade we are making a statement that the franchise will be built around him from this point onward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Bonus points for quoting Ghostbusters LT, do you have a rough estimate as to where the Bears now stand in terms of CAP room this year. Gracias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Ya, what were the financial rammifications of the deal. Clearly Cutler is going to receive the largest contract in franchise history and by making this trade we are making a statement that the franchise will be built around him from this point onward. As of right now, there aren't any financial ramifications to my knowledge. Cutler will be in the 4th year of a 6 year deal he signed as a rookie. So he's going to get paid something like a million dollars which is peanuts these days. Of course, the Bears will probably sign him up long term but they don't have to do anything with this long left on the contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 I hear ya. Hope everything is going well. Had to go through hell for the last several years before I decided to move on and divorce my wife. My son and I are living together and his mom is still working on staying sane/sober. The energy one expends in these circumstances is unreal. But everything was final in February and my son is doing great in school and is otherwise a very well adjusted 10 year old. Life is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 This city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions. Old Testament. Real wrath-of-God type stuff. Fire and brimstone coming down from the sky! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes... The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice. Dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria! Did George W Bush assume the Presidency again!?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfoligno Posted April 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Glad that was caught. I was beginning to worry. Bonus points for quoting Ghostbusters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfoligno Posted April 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Haven't you heard. Texas plans to leave the union (which believe it or not, they can actually do, legally) and Bush intends to be president of Texas. Chuck Norris will be the VP. Did George W Bush assume the Presidency again!?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfoligno Posted April 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 No, they don't "have to" do anything, but (a) if you make a deal like this, giving up this much, I would think a new deal would be part of the plans, sooner rather than later. ( Cutler was upset, among other reasons, for a perceived lack of respect from Denver. IMHO, if we refuse to give Cutler a deal which is more represenative of the player we just made the statement that he is, that too could be viewed as a lack of respect. Not really how you want to begin a relationship. © We have the cap space to not only get the deal done, but to actually front load a chunk of it to limit future pain. As of right now, there aren't any financial ramifications to my knowledge. Cutler will be in the 4th year of a 6 year deal he signed as a rookie. So he's going to get paid something like a million dollars which is peanuts these days. Of course, the Bears will probably sign him up long term but they don't have to do anything with this long left on the contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfoligno Posted April 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Crack, sorry to hear that. Sincerely. Glass half full. Hardest parts are over. You are with your son. Your son is doing well, as well as can be expected. Oh yea, and there has been a change in the whitehouse Had to go through hell for the last several years before I decided to move on and divorce my wife. My son and I are living together and his mom is still working on staying sane/sober. The energy one expends in these circumstances is unreal. But everything was final in February and my son is doing great in school and is otherwise a very well adjusted 10 year old. Life is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 We have the cap space to not only get the deal done, but to actually front load a chunk of it to limit future pain. Couldn't agree more. But the question was what are the ramifications and at this point, there aren't any. And I'm not sure they'll want to go out there and extend him with a big deal right away. Too many guys have disappeared after getting the big check... I'd say you sit down with him, be very honest, and tell him you'll do a deal with him in one year. That means with 2 left on his contract which is very fair. I'd then use the cap space we have available now to bring in a Marvin Harrison and front load other contracts for vets we want to extend today. Leaving ample space in next year's cap. (Note: I'm assuming above there won't be an uncapped year. I believe both sides will get a deal done in collective bargaining. Now is not the time, with the economy being what it is, for either side to chance killing this golden goose.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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