Bears Trading Up/Down in Draft

[DABEARSDABOMB]

And on the subject of the Bears, don't count them out of draft-day dealing. General manager Jerry Angelo says the team already is discussing scenarios in which it can move up from its 17th spot in the second round to acquire a "bubble first-rounder" early in the second round. Angelo also is open to the possibility of moving down if the round does not break right.

You got to admire the boldness. My guess is any move up would be to acquire a WR or tackle. Pompei later speculates how the Bears are very interested in Robisnkie. Robinskie definately would be a nice fit along with Bennett and Hester. My guess is that if they trade up, its to target a 1st round tackle that slides or to grab a WR like Robinskie/Nicks. Otherwise I could very well see them trading down if Britts/Robinski/Nicks are off the board (this would be easier to do if the Bears sign Holt cause they'd have even less pressure to grab a WR super early and could make adjustments of what they picked based upon the way the draft unfolds).

[nfoligno]

But how can they move up? We traded our 3rd round pick, and while we have another 3rd rounder, it is a compensation pick and can not be dealt. I am not sure we can package our 4th - 7th round picks to move up.

 

I have always read that you value future picks such that, a 2nd next year is worth a 3rd this year. That means to move up into the top of the 2nd round would cost us our 2nd round pick next year. Such a move is equal to about our 3rd this year, but that means 2nd next.

 

We just gave away our 1st and 3rd this year. We are already w/o our 1st next. I have a hard time seeing Angelo passing on both the 1st and 2nd round of next years draft.

 

I am not opposed to moving up to get the "right"person. I just fail to see how we have the ammo to pull it off.

 

You got to admire the boldness. My guess is any move up would be to acquire a WR or tackle. Pompei later speculates how the Bears are very interested in Robisnkie. Robinskie definately would be a nice fit along with Bennett and Hester. My guess is that if they trade up, its to target a 1st round tackle that slides or to grab a WR like Robinskie/Nicks. Otherwise I could very well see them trading down if Britts/Robinski/Nicks are off the board (this would be easier to do if the Bears sign Holt cause they'd have even less pressure to grab a WR super early and could make adjustments of what they picked based upon the way the draft unfolds).

[BearSox]

We most assuredly have the ammo to move up into the early 2nd, but not much higher. It'd take our 2nd this year, a 3rd next year, and our 4th or 5th this year. However, I'd only like to see that if someone who should have gone much earlier falls, or if Nicks or Britt is there. And personally, I would not be in favor of trading up for Nicks or drafting Robiskie at all in the 2nd.

 

If we sign Holt, and if we decided not to trade up for Britt or someone that feel, and Nicks or someone else we're targeting isn't there at 49 or would be a reach, I would love a trade down.

[ASHKUM BEAR]

I had posted what it would take to move up earlier, here's a recap broken down as round & pick and what there value is:

 

Its a possiblity, but we would be trading every tradeable pick to move up about 15 slots, that may give us: RD2-35, 3-99, 7-246, 7-251. I can see us doing it if that one player is available (hmmmm-I wonder who that may be)

 

2-49 = 410

4-119 = 56

5-140 = 36

5-154 = 30

6-191 = 15

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.......... 547 pts = PICK 35 (3rd pick in the 2nd RD)

[BearSox]

I had posted what it would take to move up earlier, here's a recap broken down as round & pick and what there value is:

 

Its a possiblity, but we would be trading every tradeable pick to move up about 15 slots, that may give us: RD2-35, 3-99, 7-246, 7-251. I can see us doing it if that one player is available (hmmmm-I wonder who that may be)

 

2-49 = 410

4-119 = 56

5-140 = 36

5-154 = 30

6-191 = 15

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.......... 547 pts = PICK 35 (3rd pick in the 2nd RD)

There isn't a chance in hell we trade all of our draft picks this year to move up 15 slots. Any trade involving us moving up would have us departing with a future pick or perhaps even a player.

[DABEARSDABOMB]

I'm actually a far bigger proponent in the team trading down because I think there are enough WR's that we could potentially land one later, plus be able to grab a safety early.

[nfoligno]

That was my point earlier. To move up, it looks like it would take our 2nd round pick NEXT year, which is about equal to a 3rd rounder this year, or the value necessary for us to move up in the draft.

 

 

 

There isn't a chance in hell we trade all of our draft picks this year to move up 15 slots. Any trade involving us moving up would have us departing with a future pick or perhaps even a player.

[jason]

If the Bears trade up into the top of the second round for what would amount to about the fourth or fifth best WR, it will be a stupid and wasteful move.

['TD']

If the Bears trade up into the top of the second round for what would amount to about the fourth or fifth best WR, it will be a stupid and wasteful move.

 

Considering the talk from Pace and Burress, I think the best option is just to get the free safety they wat. This signals to me that they are serious about pursuing Burress and/or Holt. If they are, and get one, I think it would make more sense to see what they have in Bennett this year and draft a WR next year. If Bennett looks like the tredecessor to whoever is being brought in, then draft a Speed WR next year. If he doesn't look to fill the roll then move in more of a possession type receiver direction next year.

 

I personally think Burress and Holt will be good for atleast 3 more years. TO is still on top of his game at 36, Rice went through his 40's, I see no reason for Holt or Burress not to be able to succeed until they are atleast 36.

[AZ54]

I don't think we'd be trading up that far, perhaps 5 places no more. However, it's possible JA is gauging interest in moving more players off our roster. In that case who knows. I can't see who we'd trade except Kellen Davis because of our need for a blocking TE which we could draft in the late rounds.