defiantgiant Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 I've been reading the thread on the Packers' new 3-4 defense and how our offense might stack up against it, and I figured there should be a thread about the Lions' defensive changes as well. Let's get one thing out of the way immediately: yes, they're the Lions. Yes, they're coming off a winless season. But they're also fielding an almost entirely different team from the one that went 0-16, especially on D. They're not only changing their defensive scheme (from a Tampa-2 to a blitz-heavy, Jim Johnson-style 4-3,) they're also fielding an almost entirely new personnel group. By my count, they could be returning as few as three starters on defense, which is a good thing for them. So I'm wondering what everyone thinks on the subject: could Detroit's D be any good this year? So far, they've added three new starters in the secondary: Louis Delmas at FS, Philip Buchanon at RCB, and Anthony Henry at LCB. They've added two new (presumptive) starters at DT: Grady Jackson and (as of today) Shaun Smith. Also, Jared DeVries is out for the season, which likely means Cliff Avril is going to start at RE. He tied for the most sacks by a rookie last season, in very limited playing time. Lastly, they've added two new starting linebackers: Larry Foote at MLB and Julian Peterson at SLB. All in all, they've had a pretty major infusion of talent this offseason, at least on the defensive side of the ball. So what do you guys think - will that D be any good? How do you think our offense will stack up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Detroit is simply one of those teams that I do not believe will be any good until they actually prove it. Arizona is like that on O. They finally proved it last year after years and years of people speculating how they would be good. I've been reading the thread on the Packers' new 3-4 defense and how our offense might stack up against it, and I figured there should be a thread about the Lions' defensive changes as well. Let's get one thing out of the way immediately: yes, they're the Lions. Yes, they're coming off a winless season. But they're also fielding an almost entirely different team from the one that went 0-16, especially on D. They're not only changing their defensive scheme (from a Tampa-2 to a blitz-heavy, Jim Johnson-style 4-3,) they're also fielding an almost entirely new personnel group. By my count, they could be returning as few as three starters on defense, which is a good thing for them. So I'm wondering what everyone thinks on the subject: could Detroit's D be any good this year? So far, they've added three new starters in the secondary: Louis Delmas at FS, Philip Buchanon at RCB, and Anthony Henry at LCB. They've added two new (presumptive) starters at DT: Grady Jackson and (as of today) Shaun Smith. Also, Jared DeVries is out for the season, which likely means Cliff Avril is going to start at RE. He tied for the most sacks by a rookie last season, in very limited playing time. Lastly, they've added two new starting linebackers: Larry Foote at MLB and Julian Peterson at SLB. All in all, they've had a pretty major infusion of talent this offseason, at least on the defensive side of the ball. So what do you guys think - will that D be any good? How do you think our offense will stack up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TerraTor Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I dont see them being any better, not worse tho. Especially with those additions. Phil Buchanon is a never was, Anthony Henry was the worst player on Dallas' team. Larry Foote is to me was a product of Pittsburgs' historic D scheme. Julian Peterson, eh no comment. I think our offense and most others will again anahilate them. Plus theyll be on the field most of the game.. haha Lastly, teams should learn u cant just go out and sign everyone and expect to be good. (redskins) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I'm a huge believer in what Detroit did this offseason. However, 4 wins is as high as I'll go this year for their win total. Buchanan and Foote are getting up there in age, and Smith and Delmas, while they'll be good in 2-3 years, all rookie DB's struggle some or mightedly in their first year or 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonej Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Who is playing behind all the guys you mentioned? Their biggest problem will be depth and that is why you shouldn't worry too much about Detroit's D. One other thing to keep in mind is that Grady Jackson is a lard arse for hire and basically is doing one and done with a lot of teams he's played with. He can't be counted on to do more than stuff the run.Translation 2 down DT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesson44 Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I've been reading the thread on the Packers' new 3-4 defense and how our offense might stack up against it, and I figured there should be a thread about the Lions' defensive changes as well. Let's get one thing out of the way immediately: yes, they're the Lions. Yes, they're coming off a winless season. But they're also fielding an almost entirely different team from the one that went 0-16, especially on D. They're not only changing their defensive scheme (from a Tampa-2 to a blitz-heavy, Jim Johnson-style 4-3,) they're also fielding an almost entirely new personnel group. By my count, they could be returning as few as three starters on defense, which is a good thing for them. So I'm wondering what everyone thinks on the subject: could Detroit's D be any good this year? So far, they've added three new starters in the secondary: Louis Delmas at FS, Philip Buchanon at RCB, and Anthony Henry at LCB. They've added two new (presumptive) starters at DT: Grady Jackson and (as of today) Shaun Smith. Also, Jared DeVries is out for the season, which likely means Cliff Avril is going to start at RE. He tied for the most sacks by a rookie last season, in very limited playing time. Lastly, they've added two new starting linebackers: Larry Foote at MLB and Julian Peterson at SLB. All in all, they've had a pretty major infusion of talent this offseason, at least on the defensive side of the ball. So what do you guys think - will that D be any good? How do you think our offense will stack up? So what..who cares that the Lions are gathering alot of over the hill players(Philip Buchanon, Anthony Henry,Grady Jackson and a few others) .They will get to 5-11 this year which will be great for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 You said it Terra! It's possible they may get good over the years, but I'm certianly not expecting it this year. Lastly, teams should learn u cant just go out and sign everyone and expect to be good. (redskins) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 You said it Terra! It's possible they may get good over the years, but I'm certianly not expecting it this year. I think that had a very strong draft class, so I think they will be good in 3-4 years but they still don't have much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Jared DeVries went down today in camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I never root for an injury... The Lions should be inept enough w/o injuries. Jared DeVries went down today in camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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