Interesting comments for Phily game

[nfoligno]

Reading a Q&A w/ Matt Mosley, who is a local guy for the Cowgirls, and knows the Eagles well, he was asked to name 3 weaknesses for Phily. His response,

 

Chris Gocong is playing out of position at MLB, so he's thinking too much rather than reacting right now...Moise Fokou is a rookie starting on the strong-side. That's a mistake waiting to happen...And the Eagles don't have enough bodies in the secondary. When you have Dimitri Patterson covering Antonio Gates one-on-one late in a game, you have big-time problems.

 

If their MLB is a weak spot, I hope to see a lot of (a) slants and ( more Forte receptions.

 

If their SLB is a rookie, and struggling, that should bode well for our TE. Frankly, I would really like to see us use Clark here to attack the rookie.

 

Also, as their secondary is hurting, attack them downfield. Use Olsen outside a ton to create further mismatches. If Patterson has to cover Olsen one-on-one, Olsen should win that battle early and often. Phily is known for their great defense, but that rep is based on the past, not present. This is a defense that we can, and should, attack.

 

On the flip side, while it was not in the Q&A, I hear plenty about Phily due to living in Dallas. From everything I have heard, Phily lives on the big plays downfield. In the last couple weeks, teams have essentially played a cover two against them. Teams have worked hard to take away the big plays, forcing Phily to dink and dunk down the field. They simply don't have the consistency in their offense to do this. They can score on an 80 yard play, but not often on an 80 yard drive.

 

As disgusted as it is to say, playing Lovie bend but don't break cover two scheme could actually benefit us this week. Don't allow Jackson or Macklin to beat you for huge plays. Force them to drive the field piece by piece. This limits their offense so much more than most realize. You would think Phily could easily adjust and kill you w/ underneath patterns, but that just isn't their offense. Take away what they do best, and they are far less scary than you would think.

 

No, I don't think we are going to win this game. While they have weaknesses I think can be exploited, I don't have confidence in our staff to actually do this. I fully expect Turner to try and run the ball on Phily, despite their secondary being such a weakness right now. And it would be just like the Chicago Bears to finally drop the cover two and go all out aggressive in the one game such a scheme could actually be beneficial.

 

 

[bowlingtwig]

Reading a Q&A w/ Matt Mosley, who is a local guy for the Cowgirls, and knows the Eagles well, he was asked to name 3 weaknesses for Phily. His response,

 

Chris Gocong is playing out of position at MLB, so he's thinking too much rather than reacting right now...Moise Fokou is a rookie starting on the strong-side. That's a mistake waiting to happen...And the Eagles don't have enough bodies in the secondary. When you have Dimitri Patterson covering Antonio Gates one-on-one late in a game, you have big-time problems.

 

If their MLB is a weak spot, I hope to see a lot of (a) slants and ( more Forte receptions.

 

If their SLB is a rookie, and struggling, that should bode well for our TE. Frankly, I would really like to see us use Clark here to attack the rookie.

 

Also, as their secondary is hurting, attack them downfield. Use Olsen outside a ton to create further mismatches. If Patterson has to cover Olsen one-on-one, Olsen should win that battle early and often. Phily is known for their great defense, but that rep is based on the past, not present. This is a defense that we can, and should, attack.

 

On the flip side, while it was not in the Q&A, I hear plenty about Phily due to living in Dallas. From everything I have heard, Phily lives on the big plays downfield. In the last couple weeks, teams have essentially played a cover two against them. Teams have worked hard to take away the big plays, forcing Phily to dink and dunk down the field. They simply don't have the consistency in their offense to do this. They can score on an 80 yard play, but not often on an 80 yard drive.

 

As disgusted as it is to say, playing Lovie bend but don't break cover two scheme could actually benefit us this week. Don't allow Jackson or Macklin to beat you for huge plays. Force them to drive the field piece by piece. This limits their offense so much more than most realize. You would think Phily could easily adjust and kill you w/ underneath patterns, but that just isn't their offense. Take away what they do best, and they are far less scary than you would think.

 

No, I don't think we are going to win this game. While they have weaknesses I think can be exploited, I don't have confidence in our staff to actually do this. I fully expect Turner to try and run the ball on Phily, despite their secondary being such a weakness right now. And it would be just like the Chicago Bears to finally drop the cover two and go all out aggressive in the one game such a scheme could actually be beneficial.

We have to be careful of LaSean McCoy, he is a RB similar to that of Westbrook. He is a pretty good runner that is excellent at catching balls out of the backfield. This could really exploit us if we don't watch. I think it needs to said that as much as we have struggled in night games this year, take a look a Philly's record in night games on NBC. It is 0-7.

[nfoligno]

Honestly, I think the whole night games issue is overblown. One. All our night games this year have been away games. The far greater issue for me is our teams weak play away from home. Two. Night games are usually against better opponents. Wanna bet Cutler would look good at night, if he were getting to play Cle or Det? We play better teams at night, and thus Cutler is usually facing a much better defense. I don't think it is about day or night time, but location and level of competition.

 

As for McCoy, I am not saying he isn't good, but (a) I am not scared of him and ( I would make "him" beat us.

 

McCoy is a nice looking back in general, but not all that. At least not at this point. Heck, I read he was pulled from a goal line series because he dances too much behind the LOS and the coach said as much. He is a nice runner, but even w/ Westbrook out, he has not exactly taken over as many expected. He gets solid ypc average, but has only one game w/ 15 or more carries this year, and that was back in week 3. Even w/ Westbrook essentially out the last 3 games, he has not carried the ball a ton.

 

Phily is dangerous through the air, and more specifically, downfield. If McCoy beat us, so be it. But I would not focus ANY added attention to McCoy. All focus should be on the big play threat WRs, not to mention a damn good TE.

 

We have to be careful of LaSean McCoy, he is a RB similar to that of Westbrook. He is a pretty good runner that is excellent at catching balls out of the backfield. This could really exploit us if we don't watch. I think it needs to said that as much as we have struggled in night games this year, take a look a Philly's record in night games on NBC. It is 0-7.

 

[bowlingtwig]

Honestly, I think the whole night games issue is overblown. One. All our night games this year have been away games. The far greater issue for me is our teams weak play away from home. Two. Night games are usually against better opponents. Wanna bet Cutler would look good at night, if he were getting to play Cle or Det? We play better teams at night, and thus Cutler is usually facing a much better defense. I don't think it is about day or night time, but location and level of competition.

 

As for McCoy, I am not saying he isn't good, but (a) I am not scared of him and ( I would make "him" beat us.

 

McCoy is a nice looking back in general, but not all that. At least not at this point. Heck, I read he was pulled from a goal line series because he dances too much behind the LOS and the coach said as much. He is a nice runner, but even w/ Westbrook out, he has not exactly taken over as many expected. He gets solid ypc average, but has only one game w/ 15 or more carries this year, and that was back in week 3. Even w/ Westbrook essentially out the last 3 games, he has not carried the ball a ton.

 

Phily is dangerous through the air, and more specifically, downfield. If McCoy beat us, so be it. But I would not focus ANY added attention to McCoy. All focus should be on the big play threat WRs, not to mention a damn good TE.

I know the night game issue is overblown. I was adding that if the media wants to think Cutler sucks so much at night they should also look at the fact that Philly, who is supposed to be a great team is 0-7. I know all of our night games to this point have been on the road, which I think is crap. At least the remainder of our night game are at home this year. We have a total of six this year with 3 at home and 3 on the road. I agree that I would look to slow down McNabb and the WR corp before McCoy. I was just pointing out that McCoy isn't just some schmuck off the streets. If philly was smart they would use McCoy more than they do, but that is there problem and not ours.

[nfoligno]

I actually agree about McCoy. Especially of late, teams have begun to realize the best way to stop Phily is to put a curtain over the top half of the field and prevent the big play. By doing this, defenses are sure not putting anything extra in the box, and often taking away from it. McCoy has done well w/ his limited number of reps, and if Phily was to try and use him more, good things could result. But until I see them commit to McCoy, I am not going to put too much concern in him. Now, he could torch us the way Az's RBs did, but so be it. The game plan should be to prevent the big plays and not allow McNabb and Co to beat us deep.

 

 

 

I know the night game issue is overblown. I was adding that if the media wants to think Cutler sucks so much at night they should also look at the fact that Philly, who is supposed to be a great team is 0-7. I know all of our night games to this point have been on the road, which I think is crap. At least the remainder of our night game are at home this year. We have a total of six this year with 3 at home and 3 on the road. I agree that I would look to slow down McNabb and the WR corp before McCoy. I was just pointing out that McCoy isn't just some schmuck off the streets. If philly was smart they would use McCoy more than they do, but that is there problem and not ours.

 

[defiantgiant]

Chris Gocong is playing out of position at MLB, so he's thinking too much rather than reacting right now...Moise Fokou is a rookie starting on the strong-side. That's a mistake waiting to happen...And the Eagles don't have enough bodies in the secondary. When you have Dimitri Patterson covering Antonio Gates one-on-one late in a game, you have big-time problems.

 

Well, it sounds like Joe Mays is going to be back at MLB for the Philly-Chicago game, which means they'll move Gocong to the strong side and Fokou will be on the bench. Mays is a thumper against the run and Gocong is much better on the outside than in the middle. I wouldn't count on them being weak at any of the linebacker spots.

 

Also, Sheldon Brown's been upgraded to day-to-day and says that he's going to be ready to go: it's very possible that we could be looking at Brown, not Dmitri Patterson, lining up across from Asante Samuel.

[lemonej]

Reading a Q&A w/ Matt Mosley, who is a local guy for the Cowgirls, and knows the Eagles well, he was asked to name 3 weaknesses for Phily. His response,

 

Chris Gocong is playing out of position at MLB, so he's thinking too much rather than reacting right now...Moise Fokou is a rookie starting on the strong-side. That's a mistake waiting to happen...And the Eagles don't have enough bodies in the secondary. When you have Dimitri Patterson covering Antonio Gates one-on-one late in a game, you have big-time problems.

 

If their MLB is a weak spot, I hope to see a lot of (a) slants and ( more Forte receptions.

 

If their SLB is a rookie, and struggling, that should bode well for our TE. Frankly, I would really like to see us use Clark here to attack the rookie.

 

Also, as their secondary is hurting, attack them downfield. Use Olsen outside a ton to create further mismatches. If Patterson has to cover Olsen one-on-one, Olsen should win that battle early and often. Phily is known for their great defense, but that rep is based on the past, not present. This is a defense that we can, and should, attack.

 

On the flip side, while it was not in the Q&A, I hear plenty about Phily due to living in Dallas. From everything I have heard, Phily lives on the big plays downfield. In the last couple weeks, teams have essentially played a cover two against them. Teams have worked hard to take away the big plays, forcing Phily to dink and dunk down the field. They simply don't have the consistency in their offense to do this. They can score on an 80 yard play, but not often on an 80 yard drive.

 

As disgusted as it is to say, playing Lovie bend but don't break cover two scheme could actually benefit us this week. Don't allow Jackson or Macklin to beat you for huge plays. Force them to drive the field piece by piece. This limits their offense so much more than most realize. You would think Phily could easily adjust and kill you w/ underneath patterns, but that just isn't their offense. Take away what they do best, and they are far less scary than you would think.

 

No, I don't think we are going to win this game. While they have weaknesses I think can be exploited, I don't have confidence in our staff to actually do this. I fully expect Turner to try and run the ball on Phily, despite their secondary being such a weakness right now. And it would be just like the Chicago Bears to finally drop the cover two and go all out aggressive in the one game such a scheme could actually be beneficial.

NFO the one thing the Eagles have in their favor to offset their lack of secondary help is that they get after the QB. They are tied for second in sacks and that poses a terrible match up with our OL

 

As for Philly's O LeSean MCCoy will poses a problem for the Bears as will their underated TE Celek. I noticed the Bears played very little Cover 2 last week and wonder if that trend continues against Andy Reid's pass happy offense.

[nfoligno]

NFO the one thing the Eagles have in their favor to offset their lack of secondary help is that they get after the QB. They are tied for second in sacks and that poses a terrible match up with our OL

 

Which is why I want to spread it out more and provide Cutler more weapons to work with. I know Phily can get after the QB, and with our pathetic OL, that poses a problem. In my mind, we have little chance of simply protecting Cutler, thus we need to do something else to compensate. As w/ the SF game, running RB screens could work well against their aggressive, blitzing pass rush. Also, as said, rather than try to max protect, which doesn't work since our players can't block, spread it out and give Cutler more weapons and make Phily spread their defense out more, thinning it out, and make them pay for an over-aggressive scheme.

 

As for Philly's O LeSean MCCoy will poses a problem for the Bears as will their underated TE Celek.

 

It isn't that I take away from what McCoy can do. It is simply that when looking at their weapons, he is the lesser of evils, and I make them beat us w/ him, rather than w/ McNabb and Co. The past few games have shown. The best way to stop Phily is to prevent the big plays, which they live off of. This frustrates their offense, as they are not built to sustain long drives. The kill teams w/ one strike plays, rather than grinding it out. If you make them grind it out, they simply have not proven capable of sustaining such drives.

 

And for the record, Calek is not underated by me at least. He was my top FF TE pick, and one I thought would have a very good year. Still, I would rather force Phily to go to Celek and McCoy, who are both solid, but not nearly the killers Maclin and Jackson are.

 

I noticed the Bears played very little Cover 2 last week and wonder if that trend continues against Andy Reid's pass happy offense.

 

How ironic would it be that we finally move away from the scheme we all hate in a time when such a scheme would actually seem a good match against this offense.