BearSox Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Yes, we won, and it was great to see the team play with some emotion for once... But you can guarantee yourself that this victory will be the excuse the front offices uses to keep Lovie. Sure, it was still 50-50 at best even if we did lose out, but not its almost a certainty he will be back. Very bittersweet tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 I still believe Turner is gone. Lovie is going to get several benefits of the doubt: 1. Injuries (Urlacher, etc), 2. O-Line, 3. New QB, 4. Young Receiving Corps, 5. Turner will be scapegoat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 If we lose now next week against the Lions Lovie still may be gone but you're right. This victory will most likely be enough of an excuse for the front office to keep him next year. I hope not but we'll see.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted December 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 I still believe Turner is gone. Lovie is going to get several benefits of the doubt: 1. Injuries (Urlacher, etc), 2. O-Line, 3. New QB, 4. Young Receiving Corps, 5. Turner will be scapegoat Oh I agree, I thought it was pretty much a given that Turner will be gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Oh I agree, I thought it was pretty much a given that Turner will be gone. I just meant that they will use Turner as the excuse, since he does the playcalling and not Lovie. That is why the offense was so bad, etc, etc. For the defense, they will blame injuries, etc. Lovie, unfortunately is not going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan2000 Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 I know we're speculating here and yes it is bitter sweet, I was enjoying this game as we actually came to play and for the most part did play well. I agree that regardless Ron will likely be gone. The question beyond that was that prior to this game how likely Ron would be accompanied by Lovie and maybe even Angelo. Even prior to the game the water was muddy and no one's crystal ball is 100%. Let's just say for the sake of argument that Lovie and Angelo do stay. I'd have to say that's possible to likely. Ron being gone and a new OC comes in, and perhaps Angelo pushes a real DC that may not subscribe to the Cover 2. The question then becomes... Can Lovie be a serviceable HC if his two coordinators are of good quality. Cheeko did well as DC because his D was a hybrid of the the system that Lovie favored and the background that he came in with. We need a Defensive philosophy here that is versatile and mixes a balance of aggressiveness and discipline. I have to ask can this scenario work should Lovie be back next year. If he is back I think it's important to bring in quality coordinators and Lovie has a more hands off approach. The goal needs to be as system that can work long term. What I don't want to see is Lovie brought back but we still disappoint next year and a new coach brings in his guys and Jay has three OC's in 3 seasons with the Bears. Now if the Bears see this game as the aberration it is and still decide to cut Lovie Lose we get a new HC and can bring in a guy with Cutler in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted December 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Its a shame that we dont have an owner like Arthur Blank... someone who actually cares about the team and wants to win, but only gets involved when its neccessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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