fudgeripple2000 Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 As a die hard fan I was jumping up and down, yelling at the TV, indoor clappin with whistling (sign of white-trashiness). I felt somewhat conflicted. I always want the bears to win no matter what. But, there was & is a small percentage of me (.1%) that wanted to see our coaching staff blow the game. With a great first half and being up 17 points towards the end of the 3rd quarter and to lose would have hermetically sealed the lovie coffin. Ron Turner called a good game. But his philosophy going into it was as a coordinator that knew his job was on the line and the team had nothing more than self-respect to play for. So you can't compare his play calls today against his other terrible games this season or against the possible future games in which he would innevitably return to the same mind set that created his overall crappy body of work. It's that body of work that Turner, Lovie and the like should be judged. Bottom line is that we will not make the playoffs again. To be in a market like Chicago and produce no postseason for 3 years is unacceptable. But as quite a few other posters on this site, the pit in my stomach is a symptom of knowing that we will junk turner and keep lovie. Then when we suck again next year and have to bring a new coach with new coordinators we will be three years/ three systems into a franchise quarterback's contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connorbear Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 This game is a complete indictment of the coaching staff IMHO. Williams should have been playing LT when it was clear Pace had nothing left. Shaffer looked good as well. DA should have been on the field when Cutler asked for him. Steltz actually looked like he knew what he was doing at strong safety. All these personnel decisions are owned by the coaching staff. Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownman Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 I can't agree with ConnorBear any more than what he stated. This whole season should be used to determine the future of this team. One game does not make a difference and excuses that have plagued this team for the entire season if not the last two for sure and probably to a degree the last three including the 2009 season. Angelo's job should also be considered for his poor evaluation of talent and character. Huge changes need to be made come Monday January 4th and the status quo will not be allowed to be the norm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfoligno Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 To add to that, how many times did we see Cutler on roll outs last night? Along w/ Williams/Shaffer, I also saw us giving Williams help on Allen. Sometimes it would be Olsen just giving an initial chip, while other times we would keep the RB in to help. For the record, I think Williams himself did a pretty damn good job. Point is, a "coaching" aspect change there made a huge difference. Defensively, to be honest, I think it came down to one thing. I hate to say it, but Harris came to play last night, I think think last night showed what a ripple effect he has on a game when he shows up. This game is a complete indictment of the coaching staff IMHO. Williams should have been playing LT when it was clear Pace had nothing left. Shaffer looked good as well. DA should have been on the field when Cutler asked for him. Steltz actually looked like he knew what he was doing at strong safety. All these personnel decisions are owned by the coaching staff. Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 This game is a complete indictment of the coaching staff IMHO. Williams should have been playing LT when it was clear Pace had nothing left. Shaffer looked good as well. DA should have been on the field when Cutler asked for him. Steltz actually looked like he knew what he was doing at strong safety. All these personnel decisions are owned by the coaching staff. Peace Precisely. If we were going to win, I wanted to win because of Jay and our young wide-outs and we won because of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 To add to that, how many times did we see Cutler on roll outs last night? Along w/ Williams/Shaffer, I also saw us giving Williams help on Allen. Sometimes it would be Olsen just giving an initial chip, while other times we would keep the RB in to help. For the record, I think Williams himself did a pretty damn good job. Point is, a "coaching" aspect change there made a huge difference. Defensively, to be honest, I think it came down to one thing. I hate to say it, but Harris came to play last night, I think think last night showed what a ripple effect he has on a game when he shows up. I agree that Harris came to play last night and that did help however, he wasn't the only one. I think the entire D was working hard throughout the game they were just handicapped by our scheme, or in some cases talent (DEs). Is there a guy out there who gets more out his athleticism than Hunter? Keeping in mind we still gave up 30pts. This was a "pride" effort last night for a national TV audience and had nothing to do with the coaches IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfoligno Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Don't misunderstand. I agree our players played with heart and pride which, at times, were in question. But if you were to ask me what the real difference between this game against Minny and the last time we faced them, then it was Harris. It has always been said that so much of our D starts w/ the under-tackle, which is Harris. It has always been said that Harris (or at least the Harris of old) is such a disruptive force that it affects all areas. Well, that is what I saw last night. Our DEs were often taking their same, outside pass rush angles. The difference was, not only could the QB not step up in the pocket due to Harris, but Harris was actually penetrating and pushing the QB backward, into the path of the DEs. Even when Harris didn't penetrate, he got push, and thus the pocket would collapse, or at least tighten. When the DL is playing as well as it was, that makes life easier for the LBs too. When an offense has to devote extra blockers to handle the DL, that frees up the LBs. Its a ripple effect that goes all the way through. Farve still threw for 300+ yards, and Minny still score multiple TDs, so it isn't like our D was suddenly dominating. But on the drives where we made stops or stands, I do think it was Harris above the rest. Even when Brown or Anderson made plays, watch again, and you will see Harris getting double teamed inside, which freed up our DEs on the outside. We simply have not had a game like last night from Harris since, well, probably the SB year to be honest. I agree that Harris came to play last night and that did help however, he wasn't the only one. I think the entire D was working hard throughout the game they were just handicapped by our scheme, or in some cases talent (DEs). Is there a guy out there who gets more out his athleticism than Hunter? Keeping in mind we still gave up 30pts. This was a "pride" effort last night for a national TV audience and had nothing to do with the coaches IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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