Alaskan Grizzly Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 All this FA talk has gotten me thinking. Given Cutler likes Shannahan and he is now in Washington: would you be willing to trade Cutler to Washington for a 1st and/or 2nd and Jason Campbell? Campbell isn't all that a horrible QB and the Bears can get back two of the draft picks they probably will need come next year. I, for one, would not want Cutler to go anywhere but just thought I would throw that out there. Food for thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Absolutely not. Cutler is 10000 times better than Campbell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connorbear Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Absolutely not. Cutler is 10000 times better than Campbell. Agreed. No way in hell. Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 I wouldn't trade Jay for 2 1st rounders either just in case anyone asks. I wanted a franchise QB and we got one that I think can win superbowls. Notice the plural usage of "superbowl". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfoligno Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Agreed. Finding a franchise QB is simply so difficult. This team spent two 1st round picks in recent (relative) history on QBs (Cade/Rex) and didn't find a franchise QB. No way do I trade a franchise QB we finally found. I wouldn't trade Jay for 2 1st rounders either just in case anyone asks. I wanted a franchise QB and we got one that I think can win superbowls. Notice the plural usage of "superbowl". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 I wouldn't trade Jay for 2 1st rounders either just in case anyone asks. I wanted a franchise QB and we got one that I think can win superbowls. Notice the plural usage of "superbowl". Agreed. We just need to place the talent around him. Jay is a quarterback that will win you multiple superbowls if you have the talent surrounding him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azbearsfan Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 At this point, I know that Jay needs to improve the decision making (I think we saw this the last two games). However, after such a bold move to get him, I think you have to ride or die with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan2000 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 I feel that a big part of his "decision making" problems are rooted in the lack of protection, bad play calling, and lack of threat running the ball. No one feared the run so they played coverage and were getting pressure on Jay with little effort. I know the saying is cliche but you give Jay time to scan the field he can pick you apart. But when you get the ball and as soon as you drop back you are under duress makes it difficult to go through your reads and you rush the decision making. That isn't to say that some of his picks came at times when he had time but made a bad read. Find me a QB who never ever makes a bad read and I've got some ocean front property in Nevada I'd like to sell you. The last two games the play calling was much better, the line gave him time and he was able to get into a rhythm, and we had enough of a running game to stay balanced. In those two games Jay looked nothing like the turnover machine many were making him out to be, but, more like the QB we gave up so much to get. Jay will be fine once the line stabilizes. No way do we ship off Cutler but rather he's a talent to build around. Campbell isn't the worst QB but he's not that great either. I would not get the point in downgrading a position where it is so difficult to get a talent like Cutler. IMHO someone would have to offer what we offered Denver before I even think about it. Even what we gave up I still make that trade to get Jay. As it's been pointed out we've blown 2 first rounders on QB's, one of which isn't in the league anymore and the other is barely in the league. We've also shown a track record of wasting high draft picks. We've had an endless parade of QB's who are average to below average and have had a difficult time to find a franchise QB to say the least. We finally have one who can lead us to superbowls you don't give that up, you build around him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownman Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 I would not trade Cutler at this point and time. We have bigger issues than the fact that the Bears were not able to sign anyone coaching wise that Cutler would prefer to work with. We are going to be stuck with another piss poor season in 2010 and hopefully at the end of the 2010 season there will be many people that will be looking for new jobs. Ideally it will start with Ted Phillips and continue through the entire coaching staff. Cutler is someone to rebuild around and we have a couple of positive pieces already in place player wise, we just need better coaches to help direct the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 No. I do not feel that JA can draft well enough to justify it. If Parcells were the guy, I'd maybe think differently. All this FA talk has gotten me thinking. Given Cutler likes Shannahan and he is now in Washington: would you be willing to trade Cutler to Washington for a 1st and/or 2nd and Jason Campbell? Campbell isn't all that a horrible QB and the Bears can get back two of the draft picks they probably will need come next year. I, for one, would not want Cutler to go anywhere but just thought I would throw that out there. Food for thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 No. I do not feel that JA can draft well enough to justify it. If Parcells were the guy, I'd maybe think differently. Hel no, I wouldn't even think about it. He is the only player on the team that I don't even consider trading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defiantgiant Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 I wouldn't do it. Campbell's not a bad quarterback by any means, but he has some significant flaws. He takes much too long to get rid of the ball, both in terms of slow release and slow decision-making, which puts a lot of pressure on his offensive line. He's also not great at escaping pressure behind the line. While our line is better than Washington's, Campbell would still put them in some difficult spots in pass-protection, and my money would be on the line giving up a lot more sacks. Meanwhile, Cutler's quick release and ability to escape pressure leads to fewer sacks. Campbell's also 2 or 3 years older than Cutler: one of the things I liked most about the Cutler trade is that the guy could play for us for another 10 years. Unless Campbell turns into Kurt Warner, I don't see him playing until he's 39. Campbell strikes me as being basically Kyle Orton, but with a better arm and worse timing. He's careful with the football and manages the game well, but he doesn't give you the big-play potential that Cutler does, and he needs a very good line to protect him. Campbell would be a good, safe pickup for a team that doesn't need much from its quarterback, has a good-to-very-good o-line, and has a good defense/running game to take pressure off of him. For the Bears, though, it just wouldn't be worth the downgrade from Cutler, even if we got some draft picks back. Honestly, my big fear is that Favre retires after this season and Minnesota swings a deal for Campbell. If they got him from the Skins, they could be a tough team to beat for the next 5 or 6 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Hell no. With his miserable season Cutler threw for 3666 yds and 27 TDs and of course a lot of INTs. That was done with a weak supporting cast and weak OC. I see no reason we can't improve from there even if we did nothing but keep everyone together in the same system (thankfully we aren't). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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