interesting take on the future of the D...

[madlithuanian]

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/daily-chic...rs-defense.html

[DaBearSox]

makes too much sense...

 

I like it but it will never happen

[bowlingtwig]

makes too much sense...

 

I like it but it will never happen

I love it. But it won't happen for as long as Lovie is here.

[madlithuanian]

Agreed.

 

So sad...thinking outside the box is impossible for this current regime.

 

I love it. But it won't happen for as long as Lovie is here.

 

[Alaskan Grizzly]

I like this, for the most part. I cringe just a little about the idea of having a "Ryan" back in the mix at Chicago but then again Lovie is not Ditka. And, if Rob is anything like his brother then I think he could be just what the Bears need in someone fiery on the sidelines. And who knows, with the possibility of Lovie gone next year he (Rob) could be looking at the possibility of the lead gig.

 

I like the idea of the Bears going to a 3-4 especially with the ideas that were listed in the article. The big draw is putting someone like Urlacher in a position where he doesn't have to cover the whole middle of the field. I also like the idea of Peanut moving to FS. He has lost a step or two on coverage but does have speed. The one idea that I am not keen on is going after someone like Sean Rogers. I feel that Anthony Adams is sufficient and would do fine as a NT. He has the size and what do you really need from a NT other than to plug the middle? Beyond that getting someone like Seymour would be nice but unlikely. Why not keep Idonije(sp?) especially that he has a lot of strength and could develop as a pass rusher? Or even Brown, Ogunleye and Anderson rotating on the Ends?

 

I really think the money needs to be spent on the Offensive side first and foremost. I think the Bears should persue a high profile FA WR then maybe an OL before they go and start tweaking the Defense too much.

[Guest TerraTor]

naw, the Cover 2 works just fine. Lovie has proven it 3 years in a row

[bowlingtwig]

I like this, for the most part. I cringe just a little about the idea of having a "Ryan" back in the mix at Chicago but then again Lovie is not Ditka. And, if Rob is anything like his brother then I think he could be just what the Bears need in someone fiery on the sidelines. And who knows, with the possibility of Lovie gone next year he (Rob) could be looking at the possibility of the lead gig.

 

I like the idea of the Bears going to a 3-4 especially with the ideas that were listed in the article. The big draw is putting someone like Urlacher in a position where he doesn't have to cover the whole middle of the field. I also like the idea of Peanut moving to FS. He has lost a step or two on coverage but does have speed. The one idea that I am not keen on is going after someone like Sean Rogers. I feel that Anthony Adams is sufficient and would do fine as a NT. He has the size and what do you really need from a NT other than to plug the middle? Beyond that getting someone like Seymour would be nice but unlikely. Why not keep Idonije(sp?) especially that he has a lot of strength and could develop as a pass rusher? Or even Brown, Ogunleye and Anderson rotating on the Ends?

 

I really think the money needs to be spent on the Offensive side first and foremost. I think the Bears should persue a high profile FA WR then maybe an OL before they go and start tweaking the Defense too much.

I am fine with getting a WR but only and only if its someone like Brandon Marshall or Anquan Boldin. A true #1 WR. other than that forget it.

[DABEARSDABOMB]

The 3-4 is more hyped than the Cover 2 and with so few true nose-tackles in the league you'll see that most teams won't be able to run it enough to truly excel.

 

In short, I do not want us switching to the 3-4.

 

However, that article made a lot of sense and I agree if we made those moves we'd have the personell and a nose-tackle that would allow us to run the 3-4.

[AZ54]

I am fine with getting a WR but only and only if its someone like Brandon Marshall or Anquan Boldin. A true #1 WR. other than that forget it.

 

 

What have you seen out of Anquan Boldin to make you think he's a #1 WR? Last year I pointed out issues with him versus the contract he wants. I love the way he plays the game and he'd definitely fit into the Bears persona. He'd even make our WR corps better...but he's not a #1 WR. He's too slow and without a true #1 deep threat opposite him those underneath routes he works aren't going to be worth too much. I haven't seen anyone struggle to keep up with him all year. He does make people miss tackles but that comes at the expense of injuries every season. He again missed the playoffs due to injury. All this puts him in the solid #2 category for me. We have enough of those guys on our roster at a much lower cap hit. I'd rather keep the upside of a young Iglesias in the mix versus the downside of Boldin at the end of his career and his $9million cap hit. That money will have a lot better effect on wins if it's spent on fixing the Oline or Dline.

[Alaskan Grizzly]

"What have you seen out of Anquan Boldin to make you think he's a #1 WR? Last year I pointed out issues with him versus the contract he wants. I love the way he plays the game and he'd definitely fit into the Bears persona. He'd even make our WR corps better...but he's not a #1 WR. "

 

I am not quite sure what your definition is of a "#1 receiver" but I would be willing to think that our definitions differ. If it's stats alone then I can point out another WR tandem where the definition could be skewed. New England's Welker and Moss. In 2009; Welker (who most would not consider NE's #1) made 123 receptions (2nd highest in NFL history) for 1,348 yds and 4 TD's. Whereas Moss had 83 receptions for 1,264 yds and 13 TD's. Now as far as points go then Moss clearly is the #1 but is he Brady's #1? Not sure you can think that way if you look at the receptions (123 to 83) meaning Brady looked to Welker quite a bit more. Even in Arizona and for 2009; Boldin had 84 receptions for 1,024 yards and 4 TD's where Fitzgerald had 97 catches for 1,092 yards and 13 TD's. In this case Fitz edged Boldin in receptions (by 13) but Boldin beat out Fitz in Yards by 48 yards. And this was with Boldin not playing a few games because of "injury".

 

"He's too slow and without a true #1 deep threat opposite him those underneath routes he works aren't going to be worth too much. I haven't seen anyone struggle to keep up with him all year. He does make people miss tackles but that comes at the expense of injuries every season. He again missed the playoffs due to injury."

 

Speaking of injury. Even with a broken jaw and his mouth wired shut in 2008 Boldin still managed to get 1,038 yards and 11 TD's. Pretty good considering the hit he took to get that broken jaw. As far as this year goes, and judging by your moniker I would bet you have a better insight, I am willing to bet that Boldin was prepared to play in more games than Whisenhunt was willing to let him play. He had some injuries but a few times stated that he was dissatisfied in the choices made at the coaching level regarding him being able to play. That tells me that he wanted to play but was not allowed to. Why? Could be contract disputes, could be attitude, could be ????

 

"All this puts him in the solid #2 category for me. We have enough of those guys on our roster at a much lower cap hit. I'd rather keep the upside of a young Iglesias in the mix versus the downside of Boldin at the end of his career and his $9million cap hit. That money will have a lot better effect on wins if it's spent on fixing the Oline or Dline."

 

With Boldin, even if he is what you consider a "solid #2" he is better than the current #1 candidates on the Bears roster. He is a proven commodity versus a speculative one in Iglesias. What has Iglesias accomplished in the NFL thus far? Could he be the next Jerry Rice or could he be the next Airese Curry? Don't you think that Cutler would prefer to work with at least one receiver that has some mileage on him and is a proven stat leader than all youngsters? I know I would be at better peace knowing that someone like Boldin was on the team for the youngsters to get some pointers from. Sure the current WR's on the rosters could prove to be electrifying over time but in the meantime bringing Boldin (or someone like him) could definitely move thing faster in that direction.

 

 

[madlithuanian]

For me, it's the fact that Boldin was the #1 guy for at least a year before Fitz came, and he performered rather well.

 

Plus, he's really good.

[Stinger226]

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/daily-chic...rs-defense.html

This story has some unrealistic choices. Ryan cant leave Cleveland unless Cleveland lets him go. His is appling for the same position, so he cant seek a job, and as he did a good job with them, why would they let him walk?

As far as the 3-4, Lovie wont let that happen. Brown is to light for a 5 technique DE, Tillman to FS makes alot of sense, but the 3-4 needs run stuffing ILBers and Im not sure Urac, and Williams fits that role. Anderson fits better as a OLB than Tisa. Idonije and Gilbert actually could fit the 5 tech end position.

Denver wont trade for Harris, he doesnt fit a 3-4, and If they let Marshall sign somewhere else, that teams owe them a #1 and #3. We dont have a first round pick to make that work.