ASHKUM BEAR Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Please add some names and insight. I'm slowly looking into players for this draft. Round 3 Morgan Burnett FS Georgia Tech 6-1 209 4.58 (40) - good size/speed combo Reshad Jones FS Georgia 6-1 214 4.54 (40) TJ Ward FS Oregon 5-10 211 4.57 (40) Jared Veldheer OT Hillsdale 6-8 312 Jon Asamoah OG Illinois 6-4 305 - top Big Ten oline, but short arms Mike Johnson OG Alabama 6-6 312 Sevish Capers OT West Virginia 6-4 308 Perrish Cox CB Oklahoma St 5-11 195 4.53 (40) - Did well against good WR's, decent size/speed Syd'Quan Thompson CB California 5-9 186 4.52 Donavan Warren CB Michigan 5-11 193 4.59 Would love to see: Morgan Burnett FS (RD3) and Mike Johnson G (RD4) Sam Young OT (RD5) Brian Jackson CB/FS (RD6) Marcus Easly WR (RD7) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawhizz Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Here are some other guys I've generally thought would be good fits with the Bears: 3rd Vladimir Ducasse, G/T, UMass LaMarr Houston, DT, Texas Amari Spievey, CB/FS, Iowa - I already wrote about him in my other post Javier Arenas, CB, Alabama - Not that we need another guy with return skills, but he's a legit CB too. Reshad Jones, S, Georgia 4th John Jerry, G, Ole Miss Ciron Black, G/T, LSU Geno Atkins, DT, Georgia Myron Lewis, CB, Vanderbilt - Go back to the well? Alterraun Verner, CB, UCLA Kendrick Lewis, S, Ole Miss Darrell Stuckey, S, Kansas Robert Johnson, S, Utah - The Bears have already brought him in for a workout. 5th Brandon Carter, G, Texas Tech - He's the one with the crazy face paint during games Shawn Lauvao, G, Arizona State Kyle Calloway, RT, Iowa Adam Ulatoski, RT, Texas Earl Mitchell, DT, Arizona - Has been moving up a lot of board recently Crezdon Butler, CB, Clemson Devin Ross, CB, Arizona Dezmon Briscoe, WR, Kansas - He's been disappointing in workouts, so he might fall this low. Shay Hodge, WR, Ole Miss 6th Chris Marinelli, RT, Stanford - Really underrated. Chris Scott, RT, Tennessee Nate Collins, DT, Virginia - The Bears have already brought him in for a workout. Vince Oghobaase, DT, Duke Jamar Wall, CB, Texas Tech - A guy I really like. Patrick Stoudamire, CB, Western Illinois - Has been very impressive against lower competition. Stephan Virgil, CB, Virginia Tech Freddie Barnes, WR, Bowling Green Arthur Moats, LB, James Madison 7th Dace Richardson, G, Iowa - He's having a horrible offseason, but if he's healthy, he can play. Mick Williams, DT, Pitt - Very undersized, but a carbon-copy of Eric Foster, who has been very productive in the Colts defense, which is similar to ours. Stevenson Sylvester, LB, Utah - Speedy LB like we like. Mike McLaughlin, LB/FB/LS, Boston College - Hard-worker who can do a bit of everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 I haven't a clue who these guys are, but damn if Ulatowski doesn't sound like a Bear! Here are some other guys I've generally thought would be good fits with the Bears: 3rd Vladimir Ducasse, G/T, UMass LaMarr Houston, DT, Texas Amari Spievey, CB/FS, Iowa - I already wrote about him in my other post Javier Arenas, CB, Alabama - Not that we need another guy with return skills, but he's a legit CB too. Reshad Jones, S, Georgia 4th John Jerry, G, Ole Miss Ciron Black, G/T, LSU Geno Atkins, DT, Georgia Myron Lewis, CB, Vanderbilt - Go back to the well? Alterraun Verner, CB, UCLA Kendrick Lewis, S, Ole Miss Darrell Stuckey, S, Kansas Robert Johnson, S, Utah - The Bears have already brought him in for a workout. 5th Brandon Carter, G, Texas Tech - He's the one with the crazy face paint during games Shawn Lauvao, G, Arizona State Kyle Calloway, RT, Iowa Adam Ulatoski, RT, Texas Earl Mitchell, DT, Arizona - Has been moving up a lot of board recently Crezdon Butler, CB, Clemson Devin Ross, CB, Arizona Dezmon Briscoe, WR, Kansas - He's been disappointing in workouts, so he might fall this low. Shay Hodge, WR, Ole Miss 6th Chris Marinelli, RT, Stanford - Really underrated. Chris Scott, RT, Tennessee Nate Collins, DT, Virginia - The Bears have already brought him in for a workout. Vince Oghobaase, DT, Duke Jamar Wall, CB, Texas Tech - A guy I really like. Patrick Stoudamire, CB, Western Illinois - Has been very impressive against lower competition. Stephan Virgil, CB, Virginia Tech Freddie Barnes, WR, Bowling Green Arthur Moats, LB, James Madison 7th Dace Richardson, G, Iowa - He's having a horrible offseason, but if he's healthy, he can play. Mick Williams, DT, Pitt - Very undersized, but a carbon-copy of Eric Foster, who has been very productive in the Colts defense, which is similar to ours. Stevenson Sylvester, LB, Utah - Speedy LB like we like. Mike McLaughlin, LB/FB/LS, Boston College - Hard-worker who can do a bit of everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted March 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Here are some other guys I've generally thought would be good fits with the Bears: 3rd Vladimir Ducasse, G/T, UMass LaMarr Houston, DT, Texas Amari Spievey, CB/FS, Iowa - I already wrote about him in my other post Javier Arenas, CB, Alabama - Not that we need another guy with return skills, but he's a legit CB too. Reshad Jones, S, Georgia 4th John Jerry, G, Ole Miss Ciron Black, G/T, LSU Geno Atkins, DT, Georgia Myron Lewis, CB, Vanderbilt - Go back to the well? Alterraun Verner, CB, UCLA Kendrick Lewis, S, Ole Miss Darrell Stuckey, S, Kansas Robert Johnson, S, Utah - The Bears have already brought him in for a workout. 5th Brandon Carter, G, Texas Tech - He's the one with the crazy face paint during games Shawn Lauvao, G, Arizona State Kyle Calloway, RT, Iowa Adam Ulatoski, RT, Texas Earl Mitchell, DT, Arizona - Has been moving up a lot of board recently Crezdon Butler, CB, Clemson Devin Ross, CB, Arizona Dezmon Briscoe, WR, Kansas - He's been disappointing in workouts, so he might fall this low. Shay Hodge, WR, Ole Miss 6th Chris Marinelli, RT, Stanford - Really underrated. Chris Scott, RT, Tennessee Nate Collins, DT, Virginia - The Bears have already brought him in for a workout. Vince Oghobaase, DT, Duke Jamar Wall, CB, Texas Tech - A guy I really like. Patrick Stoudamire, CB, Western Illinois - Has been very impressive against lower competition. Stephan Virgil, CB, Virginia Tech Freddie Barnes, WR, Bowling Green Arthur Moats, LB, James Madison 7th Dace Richardson, G, Iowa - He's having a horrible offseason, but if he's healthy, he can play. Mick Williams, DT, Pitt - Very undersized, but a carbon-copy of Eric Foster, who has been very productive in the Colts defense, which is similar to ours. Stevenson Sylvester, LB, Utah - Speedy LB like we like. Mike McLaughlin, LB/FB/LS, Boston College - Hard-worker who can do a bit of everything Great reply. This will get me some names to look up and follow throught the pro days. The draft is only a month away and it is so hard to follow this year with no picks until RD3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TerraTor Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Burnett ran a 4.42 at his Proday, unfortunately we should forget about him making it to us... dammit Id add Major Wright to the mix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azbearsfan Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 BTW I just wanted to thank everybody who is checking out these draft prospects and giving us some info. I dont have the time to do it myself, so it is much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Burnett ran a 4.42 at his Proday, unfortunately we should forget about him making it to us... dammit Id add Major Wright to the mix Don't worry, if this doesn't have "Bears safety" written all over it I don't know what does: ******************************************************************************** *********** http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/morgan-burnett?id=496727 Burnett has been extremely productive for the Yellow Jackets over the past two seasons. He is very active in both run support as well as defending the pass but also misses too many opportunities due to lack of effort, angles and proper tackling techniques. Burnett has good size and athleticism for the safety position which makes him effective in combination man and zone coverage’s. He is an instinctive player but takes too many chances which make him vulnerable to big plays at times. Burnett can bend to shed and ward off blockers but again is inconsistent in this area. His ball skills are good and show the ability to make plays in traffic. Burnett is a solid safety prospect that has some inconsistencies in his play that may concern some clubs in this year’s draft. ******************************************************************************** *********** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChileBear Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Don't worry, if this doesn't have "Bears safety" written all over it I don't know what does: ******************************************************************************** *********** http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/morgan-burnett?id=496727 Burnett has been extremely productive for the Yellow Jackets over the past two seasons. He is very active in both run support as well as defending the pass but also misses too many opportunities due to lack of effort, angles and proper tackling techniques. Burnett has good size and athleticism for the safety position which makes him effective in combination man and zone coverage’s. He is an instinctive player but takes too many chances which make him vulnerable to big plays at times. Burnett can bend to shed and ward off blockers but again is inconsistent in this area. His ball skills are good and show the ability to make plays in traffic. Burnett is a solid safety prospect that has some inconsistencies in his play that may concern some clubs in this year’s draft. ******************************************************************************** *********** Yep, looks like Lovie will be targeting him so he can "tutor" him in the fine art of Cover 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Don't worry, if this doesn't have "Bears safety" written all over it I don't know what does: ******************************************************************************** *********** http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/morgan-burnett?id=496727 Burnett has been extremely productive for the Yellow Jackets over the past two seasons. He is very active in both run support as well as defending the pass but also misses too many opportunities due to lack of effort, angles and proper tackling techniques. Burnett has good size and athleticism for the safety position which makes him effective in combination man and zone coverage’s. He is an instinctive player but takes too many chances which make him vulnerable to big plays at times. Burnett can bend to shed and ward off blockers but again is inconsistent in this area. His ball skills are good and show the ability to make plays in traffic. Burnett is a solid safety prospect that has some inconsistencies in his play that may concern some clubs in this year’s draft. ******************************************************************************** *********** Lovely news. However, he has to be smarter than Manning. Nobody could be less instinctive than him. I agree that we should be cautious. Other "Mock Talk" may have better things to say. Anyway, I'll take a slightly less gifted "football Player" over a "dumb athlete" anyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TerraTor Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Lovely news. However, he has to be smarter than Manning. Nobody could be less instinctive than him. I agree that we should be cautious. Other "Mock Talk" may have better things to say. Anyway, I'll take a slightly less gifted "football Player" over a "dumb athlete" anyday. He looks like Forrest Gump on KR, and Forrest Gump if he played safety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 He looks like Forrest Gump on KR, and Forrest Gump if he played safety Gotta disagree on the KR. I think he's a beast at KR. Nice crack though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defiantgiant Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Most of the guys I'm crossing my fingers for (Burnett, TJ Ward, Nate Collins, Ducasse, Chris Scott) have already been mentioned, so I'll add a couple of new ones: Third Round Rodger Saffold, OT, Indiana: Might not fall this far: Saffold was considered a 3rd-round prospect after a great Shrine Game, and he may have worked himself into the 2nd after a fantastic Combine. It's hard to gauge his value, since a lot of teams aren't sure if he'll stay at LT in the pros or move to the right side. Kind of an LT-RT tweener and isn't a bulldozer in the run game. If Martz wants a right tackle who can pass-protect like a left tackle, though, Saffold is the guy. Experienced player with 41 starts at left tackle, only allowed one sack in 2009. Fourth Round Larry Asante, SS, Nebraska: strong safety prospect. Doesn't have the range to play free safety, but has zone coverage skills that none of our current SS candidates can equal. Great hands for the interception, reads quarterbacks well, and loves to hit. Fifth Round Walter Thurmond, CB, Oregon: Similar to Zack Bowman, Thurmond's an elite talent with injury concerns. Some scouts had him as a late 1st- to 2nd-round pick before he tore ligaments in his knee back in September. Mel Kiper said he should have gone in the 1st round. If he can get back to 100% after knee surgery, he'll be a huge steal on Day 3. Excels in both zone and man coverage, is a great tackler, and was extremely productive. In 41 games as a starter, Thurmond had 236 tackles, 12 interceptions, 37 passes deflected, and 3 defensive touchdowns. Also an excellent punt returner. Sixth Round Deji Karim, RB, SIU: Scatback prospect, good receiver on screens (so Martz will like him,) and a willing pass blocker. Could be the third-down back that Garrett Wolfe was supposed to be, but Karim's 25 pounds heavier than Wolfe, and probably faster (timed as low as 4.37 in the 40.) Had a nasty 2009 season: carried 240 times for 1694 yards (7.1 YPC) and 18 TDs. Met with Bears reps at the Texas vs. The Nation game. Seventh Round Robert Vaughn, FS, UConn: Big East active leader in career interceptions with 12. Thin build for an NFL safety (generously listed at 6 feet, weight anywhere from 195-200 pounds) and might be too much of a pure coverage safety: comes from Connecticut's Cover 4 defense and admits that he wasn't asked to play in the box or take on blockers. Quickness and ability in coverage mean that he could potentially switch to corner in a zone scheme like the Bears', and he may fit better there than at FS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 Most of the guys I'm crossing my fingers for (Burnett, TJ Ward, Nate Collins, Ducasse, Chris Scott) have already been mentioned, so I'll add a couple of new ones: Sixth Round Deji Karim, RB, SIU: Scatback prospect, good receiver on screens (so Martz will like him,) and a willing pass blocker. Could be the third-down back that Garrett Wolfe was supposed to be, but Karim's 25 pounds heavier than Wolfe, and probably faster (timed as low as 4.37 in the 40.) Had a nasty 2009 season: carried 240 times for 1694 yards (7.1 YPC) and 18 TDs. Met with Bears reps at the Texas vs. The Nation game. If the Bears draft a RB in this draft, I'll puke. RB is probably the LAST position the Bears need to draft. Seriously, I don't know if there is one position the Bears need to draft less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 If the Bears draft a RB in this draft, I'll puke. RB is probably the LAST position the Bears need to draft. Seriously, I don't know if there is one position the Bears need to draft less. I don't think they will now that we have addressed that position via FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connorbear Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 If the Bears draft a RB in this draft, I'll puke. RB is probably the LAST position the Bears need to draft. Seriously, I don't know if there is one position the Bears need to draft less. Agreed 100%. Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradjock Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 If the Bears draft a RB in this draft, I'll puke. RB is probably the LAST position the Bears need to draft. Seriously, I don't know if there is one position the Bears need to draft less. It's not a need by any means, but as far as I'm concerned, once you reach the 4th or 5th rounds you take the best player available. I suspect that Khalil Bell's success was more of a fluke then the norm. I know you're a big fan of Garrett Wolfe, but he didn't fit in Ron Turner's system, and that won't get better with Martz. You see teams deploying 4 rb's with success. I don't see any problem with taking another rb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerBear7 Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Fourth Round Larry Asante, SS, Nebraska: strong safety prospect. Doesn't have the range to play free safety, but has zone coverage skills that none of our current SS candidates can equal. Great hands for the interception, reads quarterbacks well, and loves to hit. Mike Brown played at Nebraska; is Asante a Mike Brown Clone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defiantgiant Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 It's not a need by any means, but as far as I'm concerned, once you reach the 4th or 5th rounds you take the best player available. I suspect that Khalil Bell's success was more of a fluke then the norm. I know you're a big fan of Garrett Wolfe, but he didn't fit in Ron Turner's system, and that won't get better with Martz. You see teams deploying 4 rb's with success. I don't see any problem with taking another rb? This was exactly my thinking. Once you're down into the 6th round or so, you just take the best available player. If the Bears took a running back in the 3rd, that would be one thing, but that's because they can probably get a starter at safety or on the o-line with that pick. But in the 6th, I wouldn't mind them taking a talented RB who could contribute down the road. Khalil Bell is far from an established player and Garrett Wolfe has been a poor fit, to say the least. I think Karim could easily be an upgrade over both. That should be enough to put him on the Bears' radar (which is what this thread is about) regardless of whether they actually end up picking him. Fourth Round Larry Asante, SS, Nebraska: strong safety prospect. Doesn't have the range to play free safety, but has zone coverage skills that none of our current SS candidates can equal. Great hands for the interception, reads quarterbacks well, and loves to hit. Mike Brown played at Nebraska; is Asante a Mike Brown Clone? Brown had more range: at least from what I've seen of Asante, I don't think he's going to be a FS like Brown. But I think Asante could be a big upgrade at SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simhahmadre Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-3oUIQ09IU Great reply. This will get me some names to look up and follow throught the pro days. The draft is only a month away and it is so hard to follow this year with no picks until RD3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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