jason Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 This is a grade school offense. It's so bad it isn't even funny. Where is Ron Turner? No way in hell I want Turner back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 lol The first Turner call. Seriously though, I'd love to see the comparisons of last year and this year. I'd be willing to bet at this point last year we were scoring more and probably gaining more yards than with Martz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azbearsfan Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 The passes have been bad, but can you blame the guy? The entire franchise and offense is on his shoulders, and he has the worst OL in NFL history making repeatedly horrible decisions play after play. Sooner or later a person will naturally self-preserve, whether it's because of injury or danger. If someone sprains an ankle, they're going to limp. Yes I can blame him. Dude, bitched his way out of Denver so this is where he is. He is a grown man and getting paid, so act like a damn pro and complete an effing slant. Granted, his damn OC isnt helping him so its not all on him, but I expect him to make the throws that are there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azbearsfan Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 I mean 0 for 9 on third downs? WTF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 OMG. Hester is a moron, and this faggy looking punter is pissing me off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 Jesus Christ do we have the dumbest team in the league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azbearsfan Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 haha, yeah, Chester Taylor is the short yardage back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 You have got to be kidding me. What a absolutely god awful no call. HOW IS THAT NOT PI?!:?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 This team is full of fail. This is disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azbearsfan Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 Well with the missed FG, that will be the game. Martz should be embarrassed with the product he puts on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawhizz Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 I could coach a defense against this team. "Stop them from running in the first quarter. They will then pass the rest of the game and we don't have to worry about it any more." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 LOL that guy got blown up. Too bad we still lose because we have no TO's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azbearsfan Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 I could coach a defense against this team. "Stop them from running in the first quarter. They will then pass the rest of the game and we don't have to worry about it any more." And I dont think there is any way, at this point, anyone can say that Martz has been better than a second year of Cutler/Turner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 Well that was two awful teams we just watched right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 Well with the missed FG, that will be the game. Martz should be embarrassed with the product he puts on the field. Correction: Martz should be embarrassed with the continuous 7-step drops. Tice should be embarrassed with the OL's lack of blocking. Lovie should be embarrassed for never doing a thing to stop the flood waters. And it's Jerry Angelo should be embarrassed with the product he puts on the field. The Bears have 5 offensive linemen that probably couldn't start on any other NFL team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 And I dont think there is any way, at this point, anyone can say that Martz has been better than a second year of Cutler/Turner. I don't agree at all. Ineptitude has degrees. When the offensive line blocks, the Bears have the potential to be a dangerous offense under Martz. Of course, it's up to Martz to ensure that he calls packages with which his team can succeed. With Turner, however, the Bears never really had much of a chance to be a dangerous or successful offense. Turner was the offensive counterpart to Lovie Smith: a man with a scheme that plays not to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 And I dont think there is any way, at this point, anyone can say that Martz has been better than a second year of Cutler/Turner. Aside from Cutler not throwing as many picks (Knock on wood) Martz has been worse than Turner's offense. Atleast Turner called far more short 3 step drops to protect what little protection Cutler had from the offensive line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 I don't agree at all. Ineptitude has degrees. When the offensive line blocks, the Bears have the potential to be a dangerous offense under Martz. Of course, it's up to Martz to ensure that he calls packages with which his team can succeed. With Turner, however, the Bears never really had much of a chance to be a dangerous or successful offense. Turner was the offensive counterpart to Lovie Smith: a man with a scheme that plays not to lose. I can't agree with you at all. Martz is completely hindering the offense right now. The oline is terrible and instead of adjusting and dealing with it, he is putting the Bears offense in even worse situations to succeed. Oh and DA needs to be on the field. You can't just have small receivers because there is such a smaller margin for error with those guys than there is when you have at least one bigger WR on the field. Oh and Olsen with another POS game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 I can't agree with you at all. Martz is completely hindering the offense right now. The oline is terrible and instead of adjusting and dealing with it, he is putting the Bears offense in even worse situations to succeed. Oh and DA needs to be on the field. You can't just have small receivers because there is such a smaller margin for error with those guys than there is when you have at least one bigger WR on the field. Oh and Olsen with another POS game. I guess the point I'm making is, Martz isn't really adjusting that much - which is stupid - but at least he's trying to install plays that are meant to attack a defense, meant to take advantage of defensive deficiencies. Turner didn't really seem to do that. He just kept shoveling the same shit, over and over, and knew it wasn't meant to really do more than hold on to a lead (if there was one). Nobody denies that Martz needs to change things up (e.g. max protect, 3-step drops, etc.), but I'd say that more screens in this game looked like an attempt at adjustment...just not enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 I guess the point I'm making is, Martz isn't really adjusting that much - which is stupid - but at least he's trying to install plays that are meant to attack a defense, meant to take advantage of defensive deficiencies. Turner didn't really seem to do that. He just kept shoveling the same shit, over and over, and knew it wasn't meant to really do more than hold on to a lead (if there was one). Nobody denies that Martz needs to change things up (e.g. max protect, 3-step drops, etc.), but I'd say that more screens in this game looked like an attempt at adjustment...just not enough. His plays don't take advantage of anything but our giant weakness. And by take advantage, I mean, completely assist the oppositions dismantling of our QB. All I know is late last year, the Bears put up quite a few points with the Turner/Cutler show. And no, I'm not saying I want Turner back, but he's never been this pure shit OC that you all think he is. Turner was at least smart enough to limit his offense when he had no talent (which was most of his tenure) to ensure we could take advantage of our D, etc. Maybe if we invested into our offense under Turner we might have seen something. I hope Martz shuts me up, but right now he looks like shit and unfortunately I see the Bears killing our QB as Cutler will be playing in a 3rd system next year (and if you think about it, 4th system in 4 years...1 of those years being the Shanny system). And that is a complete and utter joke and no way to develop an offense (you can't develop offenses when you are always changing things). It is why I thought the Bears should have went with a young up and comer OC and sold him on a possible opportunity to become HC if he did well and Lovie struggled (and at least with Bates, unfortunately we had no shot with him, it would have been Cutler going back to a familiar system). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 His plays don't take advantage of anything but our giant weakness. And by take advantage, I mean, completely assist the oppositions dismantling of our QB. All I know is late last year, the Bears put up quite a few points with the Turner/Cutler show. And no, I'm not saying I want Turner back, but he's never been this pure shit OC that you all think he is. Turner was at least smart enough to limit his offense when he had no talent (which was most of his tenure) to ensure we could take advantage of our D, etc. Maybe if we invested into our offense under Turner we might have seen something. I hope Martz shuts me up, but right now he looks like shit and unfortunately I see the Bears killing our QB as Cutler will be playing in a 3rd system next year (and if you think about it, 4th system in 4 years...1 of those years being the Shanny system). And that is a complete and utter joke and no way to develop an offense (you can't develop offenses when you are always changing things). It is why I thought the Bears should have went with a young up and comer OC and sold him on a possible opportunity to become HC if he did well and Lovie struggled (and at least with Bates, unfortunately we had no shot with him, it would have been Cutler going back to a familiar system). You minunderstood me. His plays have not been taking advantage of the defense, but it's not because of design. It's because the players he has on the OL are atrocious, even worse than last year under Turner. But when people do well, the plays exploit the problems with the opponents' defense. Turner's plays never really did that very much. They were just the plays he was going to run, regardless of the defense. The point is, all things being equal, if the Bears happened to get solid OL play, the Martz offense would perform circles around the Turner offense. Unfortunately, we may never get to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balta1701-A Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 The Bears are 0-for-25 on third down in Jay Cutler's past two starts and 4-for-45 in his past four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 So much for offensive genius. That's just offensive offense... The Bears are 0-for-25 on third down in Jay Cutler's past two starts and 4-for-45 in his past four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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