Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 I don't know how many of you heard of this or saw this, but after Randel El's 2 point conversion yesterday, Hester tweeted this: I luv this play calling today, love watching a team get there play maker the ball. Thoughts? This seems to be deeper than "I wish I got the ball more." Sounds more like "give me the f***ing ball, idiots." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesson44 Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 I don't know how many of you heard of this or saw this, but after Randel El's 2 point conversion yesterday, Hester tweeted this: Thoughts? This seems to be deeper than "I wish I got the ball more." Sounds more like "give me the f***ing ball, idiots." Well I have been saying just that for years ever since we got him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flea Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Really?? Pretty sure we tried & came to the conclussion he's nothing more than a returner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesson44 Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Really?? Pretty sure we tried & came to the conclussion he's nothing more than a returner True about the return part of his game, but we need to use him in screens, quick ins from the slot and on more reverses(not the slowest WR you have), and from the wildcat to use all his speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flea Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 True about the return part of his game, but we need to use him in screens, quick ins from the slot and on more reverses(not the slowest WR you have), and from the wildcat to use all his speed May be misremembering from getting old but havn't we used him in wildcat? Don't remember an awful lot of good things happening from it. Reverses yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balta1701-A Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 May be misremembering from getting old but havn't we used him in wildcat? Don't remember an awful lot of good things happening from it. Reverses yes The problem the Bears have is that when he comes in on the offense, everyone expects him to get the Ball, so whatever he does, the defense flocks to him. The only way that's really been effective is going over the top on a long pass where he can beat the defender. Screens & such, everyone is teeing off on him. If the Bears however had another actual threat, such that if you put Hester in, they couldn't tee off on Hester because it would leave say, Vincent Jackson wide open, then suddenly that part of Hester's game could open up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 I also thought it had more meaning. What I want to see is Hester lined up in the WR screen formation, with a quick pump fake, and then hit one of the "blocking" WRs who have snuck past a DB. Every time I see a team use that play, it works. Aside from that, the plays that Hester could excel in are slow-developing drag routes across the middle. Put him in motion, have him juke outside and then drag behind the LBs, using the Umpire and other defensive players as moving screens for the trailing DB. Ideally, this is a play that has Cutler rolling out in the same direction and a TE leaked out into the flats. Incidentally, this is the play that the Titans ran what seemed like 40 times a game for what seemed like a decade with McNair, Eddie George as the play-action decoy, Wycheck, and whatever bum they had at WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 I'm sure he wants the ball more. If he didn't, I'd be surprised. He should get it more. Like on all KR's and PR's... I don't know how many of you heard of this or saw this, but after Randel El's 2 point conversion yesterday, Hester tweeted this: Thoughts? This seems to be deeper than "I wish I got the ball more." Sounds more like "give me the f***ing ball, idiots." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Good assessment. The problem the Bears have is that when he comes in on the offense, everyone expects him to get the Ball, so whatever he does, the defense flocks to him. The only way that's really been effective is going over the top on a long pass where he can beat the defender. Screens & such, everyone is teeing off on him. If the Bears however had another actual threat, such that if you put Hester in, they couldn't tee off on Hester because it would leave say, Vincent Jackson wide open, then suddenly that part of Hester's game could open up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Works for me! We need to basically use him better. I also thought it had more meaning. What I want to see is Hester lined up in the WR screen formation, with a quick pump fake, and then hit one of the "blocking" WRs who have snuck past a DB. Every time I see a team use that play, it works. Aside from that, the plays that Hester could excel in are slow-developing drag routes across the middle. Put him in motion, have him juke outside and then drag behind the LBs, using the Umpire and other defensive players as moving screens for the trailing DB. Ideally, this is a play that has Cutler rolling out in the same direction and a TE leaked out into the flats. Incidentally, this is the play that the Titans ran what seemed like 40 times a game for what seemed like a decade with McNair, Eddie George as the play-action decoy, Wycheck, and whatever bum they had at WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azbearsfan Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Unfortunately, Hester would have to catch it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chwtom Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Hester might get the ball more if he run good routes, caught the ball or didn't run straight for the sidelines every time he saw a defender coming. Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Hmmm...slow developing plays allowing Hester time to get open....does that include good pass protection from the Oline? I think everyone agrees Hester is a valuable weapon on underneath routes but until we can get a proven deep passing game he'll always have trouble finding open space. That means a WR who can make big plays downfield and an Oline that can give Cutler time to throw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defiantgiant Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 The problem the Bears have is that when he comes in on the offense, everyone expects him to get the Ball, so whatever he does, the defense flocks to him. The only way that's really been effective is going over the top on a long pass where he can beat the defender. Screens & such, everyone is teeing off on him. If the Bears however had another actual threat, such that if you put Hester in, they couldn't tee off on Hester because it would leave say, Vincent Jackson wide open, then suddenly that part of Hester's game could open up. Yeah, the lack of another legit receiving threat and the o-line's failings in pass pro really limit what the Bears can do with Hester, to the point where he becomes easy to defend against. The protection really only holds up long enough for those 1-step screens or quick slants/hitches, and every defense in the league knows to key in on Hester for those plays. With Vincent Jackson, we could fake the screen and then hit Jackson over the middle on a cross or a slant when the linebackers/safeties overcommit to Hester's side. That'd make defenses play the quick screen honestly, which means we can go back to Hester on it the next time. With some decent pass protection, we could fake the quick screen and then throw deep to a wideout running a go or a skinny post on the other side. Even if it's just Johnny Knox on the deep route, that would still be a workable play if the line could hold up. I don't think I saw the Bears pull that off once this season, though - they just don't give Cutler enough time to run a play like that. I'll say this, though - even though he was limited by his personnel, Martz still put together a better package of plays for Hester than Ron Turner ever did. The screen game, the reverses, motioning him into the slot...Martz clearly gets how to use Hester, which makes me hopeful for next season (provided we can get some better blocking and another WR to take the heat off.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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