balta1701-A Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 The Bears have offered Kreutz $4 million, Kreutz wants $4.5 million. $500k difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 The Bears have offered Kreutz $4 million, Kreutz wants $4.5 million. $500k difference. Oh come on! Pay him the dad gum money! Don't they have to spend more? If they don't want him, then tell him. Don't low ball him. Not a good PR move! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azbearsfan Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 The Bears have offered Kreutz $4 million, Kreutz wants $4.5 million. $500k difference. Well, i think Kruetz sucks nuts anymore but there simply aren't alot of upgrades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 The Bears have offered Kreutz $4 million, Kreutz wants $4.5 million. $500k difference. 4 mil's a damn gift if we're using last season as a barometer for what we should expect moving forward. I'd tell him goodbye at this point. He's one of my all-time faves but you gotta draw the line somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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madlithuanian Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 F&*K ALL! It's it's really 500K Connor better be ready for me spew "cheapness" like the excorcist scene! The Bears have offered Kreutz $4 million, Kreutz wants $4.5 million. $500k difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TerraTor Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 per the Trib. What a tool. But give the clown more money cuz we have no one else Baby Huey just sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted July 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 Yeah, you can look at this and say, "why the f*** is JA not giving him an extra 500k?" But you can also look at it and say, "why the f*** can't Kreutz just take $4 million rather than $4.5 million?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 I have a great idea pay him 4.25 million! Now elect me to the Congress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 F&*K ALL! It's it's really 500K Connor better be ready for me spew "cheapness" like the excorcist scene! My question is: How much is he worth on the open market? I just don't see anyone giving him 4.5, so why should the Bears? Just seems like a lot of loot for a lower tier starting center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balta1701-A Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 My question is: How much is he worth on the open market? I just don't see anyone giving him 4.5, so why should the Bears? Just seems like a lot of loot for a lower tier starting center. If that's a lot for a lower tier starting center...then the Bears ought to have found a middle-tier starting center somewhere. Or signed a guard so that they can move one of their current guards to C. Something. They don't have the horses right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 If that's a lot for a lower tier starting center...then the Bears ought to have found a middle-tier starting center somewhere. Or signed a guard so that they can move one of their current guards to C. Something. They don't have the horses right now. If you compare Olin to Jeff Saturday. Saturday makes 1.9 mil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balta1701-A Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 If you compare Olin to Jeff Saturday. Saturday makes 1.9 mil. There ought to be an upgrade available with this money if the Bears want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 There ought to be an upgrade available with this money if the Bears want it. agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawhizz Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 Multiple sources on twitter saying the Bears are close to a deal with ex-Seahawks C Chris Spencer. I actually like this. The O-line has been under the "leadership" of Kreutz for the last two years and has been an unholy mess, due in part to his poor play. I'd like to see these guys grow up a little bit and become leaders themselves, and that was never gonna happen with Kreutz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonej Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 I agree, Tice can get Linnekohl up on calls, He is another Kruetz type center. if you watch him he reminds me alot of Olin in his earlier years. Pretty intersting. 31 reps on the Bench That was my point and if eveyone else is a veteran they too can step up to help the cause. Be it Garza, Williams or Linnekohl stick them out there and coach 'em up. I have followed the draft for a very long time and when Kreutz came out he had character issues tied to anger management. When he broke his teammates' jaw at a FBI shooting range on a day off, that told me his anger managemenet issues still are hovering around. You watch his interviews with the media and you can tell he is uncomfortable doing them and it really annoys me that everyone seems to think he runs the lockerroom. I wonder if that is through fear of what he might do or through real respect. I say let him go and see if someone else will give him what he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 Has anybody heard anything about Urlacher and Lovie having a heated discussion with Angelo today about Kreutz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrizzlyBear Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 Whats the word B 4 ever, I heard nothing so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 Whats the word B 4 ever, I heard nothing so far. I'm not sure. Im still trying to find out about it. Supposedly it was on the Bears board earlier but I couldn't find which threat it was in. All I heard was what I said. Urlacher I guess wasn't very happy with Angelo about not resigning Kreutz, Lovie was involved in a discussion with him as well and it apparently wasn't the most friendly of conversations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 I'm not sure. Im still trying to find out about it. Supposedly it was on the Bears board earlier and I couldn't find which threat it was in. All I heard was what I said. Urlacher I guess wasn't very happy with Angelo about not resigning Kreutz, Lovie was involved in a discussion with him as well and it apparently wasn't the most friendly of conversations. Lovie, Angelo, and Urlacher were all huddle together having a heated moment. The speculation was that it was in regards to Kreutz not being resigned. From the early appearance of things, it sounds like the coaches and players wanted Kreutz back, while upper management (e.g., Angelo and company) didn't necessarily want him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixote Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 I am sure this gives usd even more room under the cap, as I doubt he gets paid what we were offering Olin, and hopefully that extra money brings us more OLmen in free agency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 Yeah, upon further review, I get the feeling that we were just ready to move away from Kreutz. The money did appear to be a gift. Now I read he's contemplating retirement. For our long term needs, Spencer may prove far better. But for the here and now, this will hurt. ...especially hurt Cutler. 4 mil's a damn gift if we're using last season as a barometer for what we should expect moving forward. I'd tell him goodbye at this point. He's one of my all-time faves but you gotta draw the line somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 Agreed. I was more angry at manaement earlier, but this is a 2 way street. And it appears to me, thre team was ready to move on w/o him. Yeah, you can look at this and say, "why the f*** is JA not giving him an extra 500k?" But you can also look at it and say, "why the f*** can't Kreutz just take $4 million rather than $4.5 million?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 At this point, all I can say is thank you Olin. You were a valuable asset to the team for a truly long time. Thank you again. You will be missed. But, you will always be a Bear to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daventry Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 Personally, I am glad that he is going as he has been clearly slowing down the last few years....sad to see him go, but it is time. And the new guy seems solid, which is more than one can say for Olin at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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