bowlingtwig Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Was that Tillman with the strip. That man still has it also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azbearsfan Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Yup, great play design. And another turnover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 He was right. Webb's guy was the guy that got the sack but the sack happened because Carimi got pushed back into Cutler. That forced Cutler back into Webb's guy. If Carimi had held against the Bull Rush then Cutler could have easily stepped up to avoid that, but the guy in front of him pushed him back. No way!!!! Carimi didn't do great on that play, but his performance had ZERO to do with the fact that Webb's guy burned his ass, got around the corner, and hit Cutler clean. You can't blame Carimi for not having the opening for Jay to step into on a play that Webb got completely destroyed. If so, then you have to blame the rest of the OL for the sack as well...which is stupid. That was Webb 100%. And just as I hit "Complete Edit" Webb gets his ass burned again, in the exact same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balta1701-A Posted September 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Cutler held that ball way too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azbearsfan Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Have to get rid of the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balta1701-A Posted September 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 You don't want to go to 3rd and medium or 3rd and long against this defense. The Bears just destroyed the Falcons O-Line there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azbearsfan Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Melton!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Love the pressure the front four is getting thus far. Peppers, Melton, Big Toe...looking great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Have to get rid of the ball. Agreed...he has to get rid of the ball...but it's not like Webb really gave him a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balta1701-A Posted September 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Agreed...he has to get rid of the ball...but it's not like Webb really gave him a chance. He pumped like 3 times before the sack. He had plenty of chances. He could have taken off and run for 5 yards there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balta1701-A Posted September 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Lance Louis out, Chris Spencer in at RG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Love the pressure the front four is getting thus far. Peppers, Melton, Big Toe...looking great. You dont want to face this defense with a suspect Oline that Atlanta has especially when you are backed up in your own end zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 So what is Cutler supposed to do on that one? Seven step drop, he plants, and the route is covered. What then? There is no time for a second route because Carimi got blown up on that play and the rest of the OL didn't do all that well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Same shitty offensive line.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azbearsfan Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Agreed...he has to get rid of the ball...but it's not like Webb really gave him a chance. Yes he did. He had the five step drop and two steps up. Webb has been up and down so far, but that one is on Cutler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azbearsfan Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Bad decision by Cutler almost ends up in a pick. Good batting the ball down by Hester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Yes he did. He had the five step drop and two steps up. Webb has been up and down so far, but that one is on Cutler. I guess we just have philosophical differences then. If a QB goes back on a 5 or 7 step drop and there is immediate pressure from the end, I don't view that as giving the QB a real chance. He stepped up because of distress, not comfort. On the plays in the earlier part of the game he stepped up because the whole OL did a good job of creating the pocket. But on that play, the immediate pressure caused him to step up in a rush, and the rest of the OL was not solid enough to make up for the OT's weakness. Not that I blame the other guys, they held their initial blocks plenty long for Cutler to have a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Bad decision by Cutler almost ends up in a pick. Good batting the ball down by Hester. Yes, I am worried about his desire to force it into Hester at this point. I hope they make an adjustment where Hester crosses, Cutler pumps, that DB bites again, and Hester goes downfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balta1701-A Posted September 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Peanut Tillman has had a great first half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Wow. Can Forte get a damn hole? He's had zero chance to run this first half. Glad he got his legs stretched on that screen pass though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balta1701-A Posted September 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Excellent protection on another long pass to Knox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balta1701-A Posted September 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Wow. Can Forte get a damn hole? He's had zero chance to run this first half. Glad he got his legs stretched on that screen pass though. They're keeping 6-7 in the box to stop the run, that's one big reason why the Bears have 4 long passes already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Great, stable pocket for Jay on that laser to Knox. There is definitely something different this year already. Jay is freaking carving the Atlanta secondary apart with a variety of passes and the WRs are finding holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azbearsfan Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 I guess we just have philosophical differences then. If a QB goes back on a 5 or 7 step drop and there is immediate pressure from the end, I don't view that as giving the QB a real chance. He stepped up because of distress, not comfort. On the plays in the earlier part of the game he stepped up because the whole OL did a good job of creating the pocket. But on that play, the immediate pressure caused him to step up in a rush, and the rest of the OL was not solid enough to make up for the OT's weakness. Not that I blame the other guys, they held their initial blocks plenty long for Cutler to have a chance. Whatever, on that play he had his five step drop and stepped up twice and pumped twice. He has to either throw or run it. No matter how much we complain about the line he will not have 5 seconds to throw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Whatever, on that play he had his five step drop and stepped up twice and pumped twice. He has to either throw or run it. No matter how much we complain about the line he will not have 5 seconds to throw. Look, I'm not trying to be sour with you, despite how you're replying. I honestly don't think we see things the same way. Is the sack Jay's fault? Yes, he could have thrown it away once he stepped up and nothing else was there. But the fact that the OT got burned changes the entire dynamic of the play. Everything at that point is a step off, a second late. There is a reason why they have 3, 5, and 7 step drops, and you've never heard of a 5-minus-1 step drop. The design is for the QB to plant his back foot on that final step and fire the pass in. If he plants and there is someone about to drill him, that sorta, ya know, changes things. To reiterate: Sack is on Jay, but the busted play is on the OT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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