Chitownhustla Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Jesus Freaking Christ dude, are you serious? The play call was great, the protection was great, the pass was great, but Johnny Knox fell on his ass. Period. Your displeasure is severely misplaced. If anything we should be upset that the football gods apparently hate the Chicago Bears and love the Packers. Never have I seen a team with less luck (Bears) rival a team with more luck (Packers). Maybe the Bears will think about getting the field turf they have up in Cheeseland now!!!! There is no reason we dont have the best shit out there, Notre Dame is now going to get it to. They have the same issues that that we have too!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Plank Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Not a doctor but from my own experience you only have surgery when the bone is displaced. So I'm assuming it's a pin/screw to be inserted and immobilize. That's a minimum of 6 weeks to get it off. At least, that was my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Not a doctor but from my own experience you only have surgery when the bone is displaced. So I'm assuming it's a pin/screw to be inserted and immobilize. That's a minimum of 6 weeks to get it off. At least, that was my experience. Cutler saw a specialist today and there was no displacement of any kind or no tendons torn at all. The only reason he has to have surgery I guess is because the break is near or at the joint of the thumb. Roethlisberger's injury was near the top of the thumb around the nail so it's easier to play through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flea Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/footb...0,5801533.story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Cutler might be back for the season or he might not. If they're 9-6 going into that Vikings game, I hope he's able to go. If they're 10-5 going into that game and they have a WC spot wrapped up, play him some to get some rust off. I'd hate to see go to New York, Dallas, or New Orleans in round 1 without a pass thrown in 7 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 The best possible scenario has Cutler practicing on a limited basis the week before the GB game and then is able to give it a go in the GB game on Christmas day. I think he'll end up playing in the Minnesota game even if his injury isn't 100% healed. They'll put some sort of tape or wrap on it and Cutler will just have to make due with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerBear7 Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Jesus Freaking Christ dude, are you serious? The play call was great, the protection was great, the pass was great, but Johnny Knox fell on his ass. This is whom I blame, Johnny Knox. He got sloppy on his route running and leaned too much with his body and fell PERIOD. Home field, he should know after three years how to run routes at Soldier Field. JAY just had one of his best games as a Bear and I feel he has really matured this year finally learning how to win football games despite everything else out of his control on offense regarding play calling, protection and personnel. Dude is the real deal and hope he can get back before the end of the season. We will be okay with Caleb, he is no Jon Quinn or whats his name our back up last year. I expect the Bears to sweep the AFC West. Yes, Oak is athletic but they also have a lot of injuries but the Bears are a more physical and fundamentally sound unit on D and ST football team. Denver, does not scare me as the Bears have a very veteran Defense that should be able to stay disciplined against the Tebow Option. But I am pissed that I will not be able to see Cutler leading the Bears when I attend the game. Thanks Johnny Knoxville! KC is practically a bye week and I would try and rest some of the DEF Star Players as much as possible by limiting unnecessary snaps i.e Peppers, URl, Tillman and Forte. I would also like to see Bell used more to spell Forte so when we get the playoffs we will have him fresh. Minnesota Sea hawks, I mean Seattle Vikings....they both suck and Peterson is dealing with an ankle sprain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChileBear Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Cutler might be back for the season or he might not. If they're 9-6 going into that Vikings game, I hope he's able to go. If they're 10-5 going into that game and they have a WC spot wrapped up, play him some to get some rust off. I'd hate to see go to New York, Dallas, or New Orleans in round 1 without a pass thrown in 7 weeks. I can seriously live with those scenarios. Cutler back for the playoffs would be fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Maybe the Bears will think about getting the field turf they have up in Cheeseland now!!!! There is no reason we dont have the best shit out there, Notre Dame is now going to get it to. They have the same issues that that we have too!! Wouldn't that be GREAT! I'm sick of seeing the players come up with huge wads of sod in their facemasks. And I'm sure everyone in the league hates the field (as noted numerous times). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Wouldn't that be GREAT! I'm sick of seeing the players come up with huge wads of sod in their facemasks. And I'm sure everyone in the league hates the field (as noted numerous times). I hate it when they find shanks in the turf that could've injured someone. And I hate it when the turf freezes and looks like green/brown concrete in December. But I LOVE when a player comes up with a wad of sod in their facemask. With that said, field turf is an obvious move the Bears and PD should make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Cutler saw a specialist today and there was no displacement of any kind or no tendons torn at all. The only reason he has to have surgery I guess is because the break is near or at the joint of the thumb. Roethlisberger's injury was near the top of the thumb around the nail so it's easier to play through. Where do you get this info? I haven't read this anywhere. In fact, I saw a whole article in the tribune talking about how the 6 week timetable is too short because when you have displacement and they alluded to the fact that Cutler did, you are talking more of an 8 week recovery (since it takes about 2 to 3 weeks to get your range of motion back). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Where do you get this info? I haven't read this anywhere. In fact, I saw a whole article in the tribune talking about how the 6 week timetable is too short because when you have displacement and they alluded to the fact that Cutler did, you are talking more of an 8 week recovery (since it takes about 2 to 3 weeks to get your range of motion back). I heard it on the radio. There was a report that said he saw a specialist yesterday and they gave the Bears a very optimistic report that he could be back possibly by the Minnesota game if not the GB game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 I heard it on the radio. There was a report that said he saw a specialist yesterday and they gave the Bears a very optimistic report that he could be back possibly by the Minnesota game if not the GB game. They just said on the score that he will have surgery on it tomorrow in Colorado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 I just heard Kyle Orton was waived. Would the Bears pick him up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 I'd do it in a heartbeat... I just heard Kyle Orton was waived. Would the Bears pick him up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 John Clayton tweeted earlier that Cutler has a displacement... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 I just heard Kyle Orton was waived. Would the Bears pick him up? As smart as that may sound, management would never do that. Apparently they are very interested in picking up Josh McCown. Honestly, we need to go at worst 3-3 and i believe Hanie is capable of accomplishing that. @ Oakland (loss) vs KC (win) @ Denver (win) vs Seattle (win) @ Green Bay (loss) @ Minny (win) The Oakland, Minny games can go either way but I truly believe this team is still capable of going 11-5. This Oakland game will dictate how the rest of the season goes. If they win and go 8-3, they all but clinched a wildcard IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixote Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 It looks to me that we have lost Cutler for the entire remainder of the season. Hold out optimism is you like, I am a heavy kool-aid drinker myself, but here is a quote that makes me believe this: Source: Chicago Tribune - David Haugh Chicago Bears QB Jay Cutler (thumb) has an unstable fracture of the thumb on his throwing hand, according to a hand surgeon. 'Jay Cutler having the surgery now means the bone is broken and shifted or displaced and is not what they call a stable fracture,' hand surgeon Mark Cohen said. 'It's an unstable fracture. On those you can't wait because they'll heal crooked or won't heal properly. The guy had a significant thumb injury and he's got to have the bone fixed so the bone can heal. He has no choices. The doctors have no choices. This is cut-and-dried.' Due to the specific nature of the injury, Cutler may need longer than six weeks to return to the lineup. 'It will take the bone four to six weeks to heal and he will need at least a couple of weeks to get his mobility back and be able to grip a football with that thumb even after the six weeks,' Cohen said. 'I don't know the details of the schedule, but to me the earliest possible return to play for an injury like that is closer to eight weeks.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 That's some sobering news. But, modern science is pretty amazing. I will hold hope that he'll return on the earlier side. In the meantime, let's hope Caleb rocks. And I'm also hoping we can land Orton for insurance. That's a lot of hope for me! It looks to me that we have lost Cutler for the entire remainder of the season. Hold out optimism is you like, I am a heavy kool-aid drinker myself, but here is a quote that makes me believe this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 It looks to me that we have lost Cutler for the entire remainder of the season. Hold out optimism is you like, I am a heavy kool-aid drinker myself, but here is a quote that makes me believe this: I find it hard to believe a guy that never examined Cutler himself and never looked at the MRI could tell you exactly what his time table is. I trust the specialist that looked at him. But either way, it doesn't mean anything really, one way or the other because the surgery itself, depending on what they do, can speed his recovery up to possible allow him to come back after 4-6 weeks. Tiny metal screws and molded plates are now able to squeeze and hold tiny bone fragments together. Compresses transmit ultrasonic waves to injured areas, which some think aids in healing. New bone-building protein and plasma treatments also are said to quicken recovery. The NFL source who identified Cutler's break as a Bennett's fracture said a four-week recovery might be possible. There are six weeks left in the NFL regular season. Here's what I'm talking about.. Other orthopedic surgeons, none involved in treating Cutler, said such a break typically takes six to eight weeks to mend. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/c...0,2946641.story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonej Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 I find it hard to believe a guy that never examined Cutler himself and never looked at the MRI could tell you exactly what his time table is. I trust the specialist that looked at him. But either way, it doesn't mean anything really, one way or the other because the surgery itself, depending on what they do, can speed his recovery up to possible allow him to come back after 4-6 weeks. Here's what I'm talking about.. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/c...0,2946641.story The article you linked is using a DR who isn't treating Cutler also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 The article you linked is using a DR who isn't treating Cutler also. I know. But the report of 4-6 weeks is speaking to what the specialist was so optimistic about from a few days ago, in the sense that he won't miss the entire season like all the others have been reporting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GakMan23 Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 The article about the Bears signing McCown said today that Cutler would be able to start rehabbing his thumb in a "few days". So there may be reason to be optimistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 The article about the Bears signing McCown said today that Cutler would be able to start rehabbing his thumb in a "few days". So there may be reason to be optimistic. Zach Zaidman just tweeted, that Cutler could begin throwing in 3 weeks. That's really good news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GakMan23 Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Zach Zaidman just tweeted, that Cutler could begin throwing in 3 weeks. That's really good news. That's GREAT news!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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