Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 RT @adamjahns: They’re not signed —at least not yet —but Marc Trestman says he expects Lance Louis and Jonathan Scott to compete for jobs next yr. #Bears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 That sure would set up quite the interesting camp as far as battles go on the line....Something that needs to happen anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 RT @adamjahns: They’re not signed —at least not yet —but Marc Trestman says he expects Lance Louis and Jonathan Scott to compete for jobs next yr. #Bears If they sign Scott back, I see one of the two tackles being cut Carmi or Webb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balta1701-A Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 If they sign Scott back, I see one of the two tackles being cut Carmi or Webb. What kind of cap damage does it take to dump Carimi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 What kind of cap damage does it take to dump Carimi? Forget that idea. Cap hit is $1.9M if he's on roster. If cut cap hit is $2.8M. The more I look at his deal its possible he could be cut after 2013 but he probably plays out deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixote Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 What kind of cap damage does it take to dump Carimi? Is everyone giving up on Carimi already? He was looking good in year one before the injury. It has taken time to recover. He did not play well last year but I doubt he was anywhere near 100%. I think I would need to see him more before I would write him off. I certainly would not even begin to think of cutting him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balta1701-A Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 Is everyone giving up on Carimi already? He was looking good in year one before the injury. It has taken time to recover. He did not play well last year but I doubt he was anywhere near 100%. I think I would need to see him more before I would write him off. I certainly would not even begin to think of cutting him. He played like what, training camp, before going down with the injury? Yeah, it takes time to recover, but if the Bears bring 2 more guards in as free agents, and then especially if they draft one, then someone is going to be the odd person out, and as of right now, that would be Carimi, as he was the worst of the linemen in question last year. If they have confidence in him and that his problem was strictly the injury last year, they won't bring in 2+ extra guards, because he and Webb will make up the right side of that line next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 What kind of cap damage does it take to dump Carimi? The idea is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 Is everyone giving up on Carimi already? He was looking good in year one before the injury. It has taken time to recover. He did not play well last year but I doubt he was anywhere near 100%. I think I would need to see him more before I would write him off. I certainly would not even begin to think of cutting him. Agreed. The idea of cutting Carimi after one year of play is just ridiculous. You just don't dump first rounders like that. There is a reason he was a first rounder. Let his talents develop and blossom for the Bears instead of elsewhere. On top of the injury he probably also had a little difficulty adjusting to the move to the right side, since he played on the left side since he was 12 or 13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 He played like what, training camp, before going down with the injury? Yeah, it takes time to recover, but if the Bears bring 2 more guards in as free agents, and then especially if they draft one, then someone is going to be the odd person out, and as of right now, that would be Carimi, as he was the worst of the linemen in question last year. If they have confidence in him and that his problem was strictly the injury last year, they won't bring in 2+ extra guards, because he and Webb will make up the right side of that line next year. The opinion is not universal. I'd argue that overall Garza was just as bad, and Webb was damn close. Both Webb and Garza were below average in all facets of the game, with highs and lows spread throughout, but Carimi was downright dominant in run-blocking. His pass-blocking was just horrible is all. If you average out the performance entirely, I don't see why Carimi is not "rated" as somewhere around average, or at least comparable to Garza and Webb, neither of which had truly dominating performances last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixote Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 The opinion is not universal. I'd argue that overall Garza was just as bad, and Webb was damn close. Both Webb and Garza were below average in all facets of the game, with highs and lows spread throughout, but Carimi was downright dominant in run-blocking. His pass-blocking was just horrible is all. If you average out the performance entirely, I don't see why Carimi is not "rated" as somewhere around average, or at least comparable to Garza and Webb, neither of which had truly dominating performances last year. Also, remember, he took a long time to recover, he was unable to take part in off-season workouts, get reps with the OL, hit the weight room, etc... I am actually anxious to see what he can do this year. Will he play RT or switch to a Guard? I do not know. He looked pretty good at RG when inserted last year without much prep time for a position I do not think he has ever played before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonej Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 Also, remember, he took a long time to recover, he was unable to take part in off-season workouts, get reps with the OL, hit the weight room, etc... I am actually anxious to see what he can do this year. Will he play RT or switch to a Guard? I do not know. He looked pretty good at RG when inserted last year without much prep time for a position I do not think he has ever played before. This is what I'm thinking because without reps at OG he looked okay when pressed into service. I just want to sit back and let this new staff see how they want to attack this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted March 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 RT @seankjensen: Lance Louis was visiting the Dolphins, the team announced. #Bears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 Agreed. The idea of cutting Carimi after one year of play is just ridiculous. You just don't dump first rounders like that. There is a reason he was a first rounder. Let his talents develop and blossom for the Bears instead of elsewhere. On top of the injury he probably also had a little difficulty adjusting to the move to the right side, since he played on the left side since he was 12 or 13. I think if they resign Scott, the possiblity exists that that might happen, I am not calling for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balta1701-A Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 I think if they resign Scott, the possiblity exists that that might happen, I am not calling for it. I think if they resign both of them, that is a really good sign they have no confidence in Carimi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradjock Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 Also, remember, he took a long time to recover, he was unable to take part in off-season workouts, get reps with the OL, hit the weight room, etc... I am actually anxious to see what he can do this year. Will he play RT or switch to a Guard? I do not know. He looked pretty good at RG when inserted last year without much prep time for a position I do not think he has ever played before. If we sign Scott, IMO we start Carimi at guard. Emery said he liked Carimi's versatility, meaning his ability to play inside. Last season Scott and Webb were both better at tackle than Carimi. I don't think we plan on carrying 4 tackles on the roster, especially when we have no guards. If we sign Lance Louis, there's no guarantee he'll be ready by opening day. If we draft a guy early, you can't count on him to start. I'm not sure what we see in Carimi at guard. He plays too tall and doesn't have the lower body strength you want from the guard position. But i've thought playing him at guard was a good possibility since Emery's versatility comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 If we sign Scott, IMO we start Carimi at guard. Emery said he liked Carimi's versatility, meaning his ability to play inside. Last season Scott and Webb were both better at tackle than Carimi. I don't think we plan on carrying 4 tackles on the roster, especially when we have no guards. If we sign Lance Louis, there's no guarantee he'll be ready by opening day. If we draft a guy early, you can't count on him to start. I'm not sure what we see in Carimi at guard. He plays too tall and doesn't have the lower body strength you want from the guard position. But i've thought playing him at guard was a good possibility since Emery's versatility comments. If we resign Louis that will go a long ways in telling us who they want at RG. Carmi is a wildcard, I think they keep him, but he will have to prove himself. I dont think they resign Scott so Webb and Carmi can fight out for RT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradjock Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 If we resign Louis that will go a long ways in telling us who they want at RG. Carmi is a wildcard, I think they keep him, but he will have to prove himself. I dont think they resign Scott so Webb and Carmi can fight out for RT If Louis is the RG, who is the LG? If Louis isn't healthy, who is the RG? We have Edwin Williams and the URFA who started a few games at guard last year. I haven't heard anything to indicate we want them competing to be a starter. We may not resign Scott and this could be a moot point. But if he's signed, Carimi's going inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 If Louis is the RG, who is the LG? If Louis isn't healthy, who is the RG? We have Edwin Williams and the URFA who started a few games at guard last year. I haven't heard anything to indicate we want them competing to be a starter. We may not resign Scott and this could be a moot point. But if he's signed, Carimi's going inside. That option exists but do not figure that to be part of there plan. We will be getting a LG in the draft, and probably sign another option on the cheap. I think Brown may be in the mix, but they will give him competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradjock Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 That option exists but do not figure that to be part of there plan. We will be getting a LG in the draft, and probably sign another option on the cheap. I think Brown may be in the mix, but they will give him competition. Maybe. But did you really think last year we would select 6 players and not one be an offensive lineman? I agree we'll sign another option on the cheap. The question is will he be worth a damn. More importantly, how was offensive guard not a priority last year? As of right night, we're all happy with the Alshon Jeffrey pick, but nobody would be upset if we'd taken ANY offensive lineman over Brandon Hardin or Evan Rodriguez in rounds 3 and 4. I don't know how i couldn't remember the name of the Godfather of Soul. Silly me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted March 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 Maybe. But did you really think last year we would select 6 players and not one be an offensive lineman? I agree we'll sign another option on the cheap. The question is will he be worth a damn. More importantly, how was offensive guard not a priority last year? As of right night, we're all happy with the Alshon Jeffrey pick, but nobody would be upset if we'd taken ANY offensive lineman over Brandon Hardin or Evan Rodriguez in rounds 3 and 4. I don't know how i couldn't remember the name of the Godfather of Soul. Silly me. Except me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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