AZ54 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 He's basically the Mark Bradley of OL prospects. Great measurables, great potential, and a chance to be a steal when all is said and done. He has 2 things that Bradley never had going for him. He has an offensive minded head coach and an OC that got the job because of his ability to develop OLinemen. If he has the drive his brother and Dad have, he should turn out to be a great pick. Bradley never was a starter in college. If Kyle Long can navigate up and down stairs he may just be a better athlete than Bradley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 That is three immediate starters. We take a guy who is likely to be inactive most of the season. And he was drafted before any of Minny's 3 immediate starters. This is the 2nd year in a row we have reached on a "project" type player in the first round. Emery said you want to draft starters in rounds 1 and 2, but nobody ever thought McClellin would start. Raise your hand if you think Long is a starter this year? Why do you think he'll be inactive? I definitely don't agree. He'll start over Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudgeripple2000 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Mayock likes him for the same reason Ziggy Ansah flew up the draft boards. It didn't seem to bother anyone that Ziggy started playing football 3 years ago only after failing at track and being cut by the basketball team twice. And that is BYU basketball. When his dad says he is the best athlete in the family I will take that. I watched most of oregon's games and I (because of his dad) paid attention to Kyle and I was impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted April 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Mayock likes him for the same reason Ziggy Ansah flew up the draft boards. It didn't seem to bother anyone that Ziggy started playing football 3 years ago only after failing at track and being cut by the basketball team twice. And that is BYU basketball. When his dad says he is the best athlete in the family I will take that. I watched most of oregon's games and I (because of his dad) paid attention to Kyle and I was impressed. Werner too. Kyle is an athlete, and I wanted him at #50, but with the early run on OL (3 out of the top 4 picks), and 7 in the first 19, they almost had to pull the trigger. We still haven't seen Geno Smith or Barkley go, and I assume that will be in the 2nd, Lacy as well. So we should be setup for a very solid pick at #50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChileBear Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Hand raised. He's better than Carimi ever was athletically. A couple things to note regarding him starting only 4 games at Oregon. He was not with their program in the spring so he had no spring camp to learn their offense. He basically started on their team in the fall practices, learned their offense, and by mid-season earned a starting role in a position he had very little experience playing. He is not as much of a project as might appear at first glance but he definitely has things to work on. I liked him in the 2nd Rd, 20 seems way early to me but he definitely has the athleticism to play OT in the NFL. I think he'll start simply because he doesn't have that much competition but he could be a backup for a year at OG while Kromer works with him and then slide out to RT or be our long term starter at OG. Lovie always got his projects on defense but the new coaches get their projects on offense. Agreed. we now have an O-minded regime.Wow, this is going to be very different for Beardom! About time we looked to bring the Oline up to snuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Agreed. we now have an O-minded regime.Wow, this is going to be very different for Beardom! About time we looked to bring the Oline up to snuff. Amen. Maybe they'll (GASP!) address both sides of the team!? Maybe the Bears will be able to beat teams via offense OR defense?! Maybe the offense might actually scare an opponent for a change. I know that concept scares the "3 yards and a cloud of dust"-crowd, but it excites me. Welcome to the 21st century Chicago Bears! Nice of you finally realize this is turning into an offensive driven, pass happy league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Amen. Maybe they'll (GASP!) address both sides of the team!? Maybe the Bears will be able to beat teams via offense OR defense?! Maybe the offense might actually scare an opponent for a change. I know that concept scares the "3 yards and a cloud of dust"-crowd, but it excites me. Welcome to the 21st century Chicago Bears! Nice of you finally realize this is turning into an offensive driven, pass happy league. It could be a lot of fun. Or a catastrophe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 It could be a lot of fun. Or a catastrophe. Better than hanging on to the status quo and expecting wildly different results. Gotta take chances in life. I'm not a big fan of being a B average guy in life. You get some failures along the way, but that's the only way you learn and get better. Playing it safe rarely makes someone better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted April 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Better than hanging on to the status quo and expecting wildly different results. Gotta take chances in life. I'm not a big fan of being a B average guy in life. You get some failures along the way, but that's the only way you learn and get better. Playing it safe rarely makes someone better. Thats funny, sounds like playing not to lose, which we have been great at. I agree, you have to break from the mold sometimes and think out of the box. Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonej Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Does anyone on this board think his HOF father isn't going to do everything that he can to make what seems like one of his most troubled offspring have all the support he needs to succeed in this league? He already enlisted the help of Jimmy Johnson and Tony Wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Agreed. It's kind of a wash... Given his "Silver Spoon" upbringing and troubles that folks can get in when they have too much money and time...his pops apepars to be trying to curb it. So, maybe another troubled player wouldn't have the tin w/o the potential yang. Here's hoping Howie, Jimmy, Tony, Kromer, Marc, etc...all steer him in the right direction! Does anyone on this board think his HOF father isn't going to do everything that he can to make what seems like one of his most troubled offspring have all the support he needs to succeed in this league? He already enlisted the help of Jimmy Johnson and Tony Wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Does anyone on this board think his HOF father isn't going to do everything that he can to make what seems like one of his most troubled offspring have all the support he needs to succeed in this league? He already enlisted the help of Jimmy Johnson and Tony Wise. I was never concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonej Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I remember at that age still being a tad on the silly side and ny parents did everythin in the world for and I had two older brothers to lead an example as for what to do and what not to do. I certainly believe in giving everyone a chance to screw up once. I still think of Stan Thomas and this pick is not as bad as that one was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradjock Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I remember at that age still being a tad on the silly side and ny parents did everythin in the world for and I had two older brothers to lead an example as for what to do and what not to do. I certainly believe in giving everyone a chance to screw up once. I still think of Stan Thomas and this pick is not as bad as that one was. Te'o gone damnit. I'd have been happy if the Bears had taken him #50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted April 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Who's left: Wide Receiver Keenan Allen, Cal Robert Woods, USC Markus Wheaton, Oregon State Justin Hunter, Tennessee Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech Tight End Zach Ertz, Stanford Gavin Escobar, San Diego State Vance McDonald, Rice Offensive Line Menelik Watson, Florida State Larry Warford, Kentucky Terron Armstead, Arkansas-Pine Bluff Barrett Jones, Alabama Brian Schwenke, California Defensive Tackle Johnathan Hankins, Ohio State Jesse Williams, Alabama John Jenkins, Georgia Kawann Short, Purdue Linebacker Manti Te'o, Notre Dame Kevin Minter, LSU Arthur Brown, Kansas State Cornerback Johnthan Banks, Mississippi State Jamar Taylor, Boise State David Amerson, N.C. State Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Great pick for San Francisco. The rich get richer. Carradine is a steal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted April 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Great pick for San Francisco. The rich get richer. Carradine is a steal. Yeah, and their little trade down got them an extra 3rd rounder next year. However, this is setting up for #50 nice, we will have a bunch of options, Arthur Brown, Keenan Allen, Jamar Taylor, Jesse Williams, Menelik Watson, Johnthan Banks, Kevin Minter, Terron Armstead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradjock Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Yeah, and their little trade down got them an extra 3rd rounder next year. However, this is setting up for #50 nice, we will have a bunch of options. Great list above. Give me Arthur Brown or Keenan Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted April 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Great list above. Give me Arthur Brown or Keenan Allen I know, I hope they are both there at 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted April 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Who's left at #49: Wide Receiver Keenan Allen, Cal Markus Wheaton, Oregon State Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech Tight End Vance McDonald, Rice Offensive Line Larry Warford, Kentucky Terron Armstead, Arkansas-Pine Bluff Barrett Jones, Alabama Brian Schwenke, California Defensive Tackle Johnathan Hankins, Ohio State Jesse Williams, Alabama John Jenkins, Georgia Linebacker Arthur Brown, Kansas State Cornerback Jamar Taylor, Boise State David Amerson, N.C. State Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradjock Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Kiko Alonso to the Bills. That's a MAJOR reach. Who's left at #47: Wide Receiver Keenan Allen, Cal Markus Wheaton, Oregon State Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech Tight End Gavin Escobar, San Diego State Vance McDonald, Rice Offensive Line Larry Warford, Kentucky Terron Armstead, Arkansas-Pine Bluff Barrett Jones, Alabama Brian Schwenke, California Defensive Tackle Johnathan Hankins, Ohio State Jesse Williams, Alabama John Jenkins, Georgia Linebacker Arthur Brown, Kansas State Cornerback Jamar Taylor, Boise State David Amerson, N.C. State Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Kevin Minter gone. Crap. Would the Bears go Matt Barkley if he's there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradjock Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Kevin Minter gone. Crap. Would the Bears go Matt Barkley if he's there? That'd be damn interesting if we went Barkley. How much longer can he last? With Arthur Brown and Keenan Allen, I can't see us drafting a back-up QB. That being said, after the pick we will all probably be saying, WTF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 That'd be damn interesting if we went Barkley. How much longer can he last? With Arthur Brown and Keenan Allen, I can't see us drafting a back-up QB. That being said, after the pick we will all probably be saying, WTF? It'll probably be some guy I've never heard of, but Emery did draft Alshon Jeffery in the 2nd last year, so there is a little hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradjock Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 It'll probably be some guy I've never heard of, but Emery did draft Alshon Jeffery in the 2nd last year, so there is a little hope. Giants on the clock. Bears up next. I'd still love Brown or Allen. We'll likely pick neither . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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