adam Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Looks like a bunch of these guys will be available at #50. Wide receiver Keenan Allen, Cal Robert Woods, USC Markus Wheaton, Oregon State Justin Hunter, Tennessee Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech Tight end Zach Ertz, Stanford Gavin Escobar, San Diego State Vance McDonald, Rice Offensive line Menelik Watson, Florida State Larry Warford, Kentucky Terron Armstead, Arkansas-Pine Bluff Barrett Jones, Alabama Brian Schwenke, California Defensive tackle Johnathan Hankins, Ohio State Jesse Williams, Alabama John Jenkins, Georgia Kawann Short, Purdue Linebacker Manti Te'o, Notre Dame Kevin Minter, LSU Arthur Brown, Kansas State Cornerback Johnthan Banks, Mississippi State Jamar Taylor, Boise State David Amerson, N.C. State Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Yea, there's a lot of talent still left out there....The one position where there isn't a lot of talent left is OG. So while Long may have been a bit of a "reach" he was absolutely the right pick if the Bears didn't see Carimi or Brown as starting OGs. Round 2 is gonna be tough to predict. I think the drop off at CB past those 3 guys is higher than it is at all the other positions so if one of those guys are there I'd probably take him. With a first year offensive minded coach I wouldn't be surprised to see a TE/WR, whatever he values higher, in the 2nd though as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted April 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 For me, I would only like to see Watson, Jones, Schwenke, Ertz, Teo, Brown, Minter, Banks, Taylor, or Amerson. Based on where we pick (18th in the 2nd), a couple of these guy should still be there. Watson would come in as an OT, Jones or Schwenke at C, I wouldn't mind Ertz here, Teo, Brown, or Minter in the middle, though I prefer Brown. Then any of the 3 CB's would also be nice. We also have to consider this pick will be someone valued at 50-116, so it could be a guy projected in the 3rd, since we don't have a pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 For me, I would only like to see Watson, Jones, Schwenke, Ertz, Teo, Brown, Minter, Banks, Taylor, or Amerson. Based on where we pick (18th in the 2nd), a couple of these guy should still be there. Watson would come in as an OT, Jones or Schwenke at C, I wouldn't mind Ertz here, Teo, Brown, or Minter in the middle, though I prefer Brown. Then any of the 3 CB's would also be nice. We also have to consider this pick will be someone valued at 50-116, so it could be a guy projected in the 3rd, since we don't have a pick. After hearing what I've heard about Long I think he'll be moving over to RT after the season so I wouldn't want Watson. Jones is a guy who I don't think will contribute much this coming up year since I hear he will start the season on the PUP list. Schwenke would be nice but there's a chance, albeit a small one that he's there in the 4th. I'd like to see them go BPA from the DT/CB group....Unless they really do want another big dynamic TE then I'd take Ertz or Escobar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 My big board: 1) Brown 2) Banks 3) Taylor 4) Ertz 5) Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Wide receiver Keenan Allen, Cal - Not a 2nd rd. need. Robert Woods, USC - Not a 2nd rd. need. Markus Wheaton, Oregon State - Not a 2nd rd. need. Justin Hunter, Tennessee - Not a 2nd rd. need. Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech - Not a 2nd rd. need. Tight end Zach Ertz, Stanford Gavin Escobar, San Diego State - No thanks. Not in the 2nd. Vance McDonald, Rice - Ditto. Offensive line Menelik Watson, Florida State - No. There's "raw," and then there's "so raw it tries to eat the salad" Larry Warford, Kentucky - Long > Warford. Terron Armstead, Arkansas-Pine Bluff - Small school, no thanks Barrett Jones, Alabama Brian Schwenke, California Defensive tackle Johnathan Hankins, Ohio State Jesse Williams, Alabama - 3/4 NT John Jenkins, Georgia - 3/4 NT Kawann Short, Purdue Linebacker Manti Te'o, Notre Dame Kevin Minter, LSU Arthur Brown, Kansas State - Don't like him Cornerback Johnathan Banks, Mississippi State - Don't like him Jamar Taylor, Boise State - No more Boise St. David Amerson, N.C. State Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Day 2 needs be better than Day 1, because Day 1 couldn't have gotten much worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Day 2 needs be better than Day 1, because Day 1 couldn't have gotten much worse. I'm sure Cutler, Forte, Marshall, Jeffery, Bennett, Kromer, Trestman, and Emery disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I'm sure Cutler, Forte, Marshall, Jeffery, Bennett, Kromer, Trestman, and Emery disagree. Nothing says a great pick like a 1st round, 24 year old project, with minimal experience and a history of underachieving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Nothing says great pick like a 24 year old project, with minimal experience and a history of underachieving. I'd say if anything he OVER-achieved. Dude was drafted by the White Sox to play professional baseball, beat addiction, and THEN decided to take up football seriously. In just over a year he took that motivation, earned a starting position on one of the most dominant offenses in college football, and worked his way towards a first round draft pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear trap Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I hope we land hankins in the second... he's a beast and paired with melton would be scary games are won in the trenches and we have very little dt depth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TerraTor Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Wide receiver Keenan Allen, Cal - Not a 2nd rd. need. Robert Woods, USC - Not a 2nd rd. need. Markus Wheaton, Oregon State - Not a 2nd rd. need. Justin Hunter, Tennessee - Not a 2nd rd. need. Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech - Not a 2nd rd. need. Tight end Zach Ertz, Stanford Gavin Escobar, San Diego State - No thanks. Not in the 2nd. Vance McDonald, Rice - Ditto. Offensive line Menelik Watson, Florida State - No. There's "raw," and then there's "so raw it tries to eat the salad" Larry Warford, Kentucky - Long > Warford. Terron Armstead, Arkansas-Pine Bluff - Small school, no thanks Barrett Jones, Alabama Brian Schwenke, California Defensive tackle Johnathan Hankins, Ohio State Jesse Williams, Alabama - 3/4 NT John Jenkins, Georgia - 3/4 NT Kawann Short, Purdue Linebacker Manti Te'o, Notre Dame Kevin Minter, LSU Arthur Brown, Kansas State - Don't like him Cornerback Johnathan Banks, Mississippi State - Don't like him Jamar Taylor, Boise State - No more Boise St. David Amerson, N.C. State wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TerraTor Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I hope we land hankins in the second... he's a beast and paired with melton would be scary games are won in the trenches and we have very little dt depth Or we coulda taken Floyd at 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TerraTor Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Nothing says a great pick like a 1st round, 24 year old project, with minimal experience and a history of underachieving. No Shit.., awful at 20... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TerraTor Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Day 2 needs be better than Day 1, because Day 1 couldn't have gotten much worse. they coulda re-drafted Shae McClellin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Wide receiver Keenan Allen, Cal - Not a 2nd rd. need. Robert Woods, USC - Not a 2nd rd. need. Markus Wheaton, Oregon State - Not a 2nd rd. need. Justin Hunter, Tennessee - Not a 2nd rd. need. Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech - Not a 2nd rd. need. Tight end Zach Ertz, Stanford Gavin Escobar, San Diego State - No thanks. Not in the 2nd. If Ertz is gone and they really want that big TE threat this wouldn't be that bad in the 2nd considering we don't have a 3rd. Vance McDonald, Rice - Ditto. Offensive line Menelik Watson, Florida State - No. There's "raw," and then there's "so raw it tries to eat the salad" Larry Warford, Kentucky - Long > Warford. Terron Armstead, Arkansas-Pine Bluff - Small school, no thanks Barrett Jones, Alabama His injury concerns scare me to much to take him in the 2nd Brian Schwenke, California Defensive tackle Johnathan Hankins, Ohio State Jesse Williams, Alabama - 3/4 NT Hankins and Williams are the exact same size John Jenkins, Georgia - 3/4 NT Kawann Short, Purdue Linebacker Manti Te'o, Notre Dame Kevin Minter, LSU Arthur Brown, Kansas State - Don't like him Cornerback Johnathan Banks, Mississippi State - Don't like him Jamar Taylor, Boise State - No more Boise St. Scouts disagree with you on the 2 CBs you don't like David Amerson, N.C. State Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Or we coulda taken Floyd at 20 And then ended up with who at OG in the 2nd? Admins, how do I block posters? Some peoples ignorance on this board is just absolutely dreadful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Kiper has us taking Hankins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear trap Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Or we coulda taken Floyd at 20 Well i don't see much of a drop off if any between floyd and hankins... floyd had a slightly faster 40 time but everything else is pretty close... actually hankns had a faster 20 yd shuttle time which lets face it is more important for a dt since i don't see too many runninf 40 yds down field... hankins also weighs over 20 lbs more than floyd... and his wing span for wrapping up is wider...hankins was the disrupting force for osu s defense and he was on the field a lot... having him in a rotation with paea and melton would be a great combination Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I think we go DT but have no clue who. I think since we'll probably go DT, 15 of them will be picked before the Bears get a shot at one. Panic pick #2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balta1701-A Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 And then ended up with who at OG in the 2nd? Admins, how do I block posters? Some peoples ignorance on this board is just absolutely dreadful. I'll assume this is a serious Q. Click on the poster's name to go to their profile. Look under the left hand column for an item labeled "options". Click on that, it will open a pulldown menu where you can select "Ignore poster". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Gavin Escobar - People screaming about a Long reach should be upset about even the notion of Escobar at TE in the second. Barrett Jones - His injury scares me a bit too, but his pedigree and experience assuage those fears. Johnathan Hankins and Jesse Williams may be the same size, but they move differently. JH has more quickness and short-term explosiveness (i.e. 3-cone drill & 20 short shuttle). Cornerbacks - Scouts may disagree, but I am just not a fan of Banks or Taylor. I don't really want Amerson in the 2nd either, but I'd prefer him over the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I'll assume this is a serious Q. Click on the poster's name to go to their profile. Look under the left hand column for an item labeled "options". Click on that, it will open a pulldown menu where you can select "Ignore poster". Eh, screw it, that sounds like too much work...I probably won't be here much longer after the draft anyway. Gavin Escobar - People screaming about a Long reach should be upset about even the notion of Escobar at TE in the second. Barrett Jones - His injury scares me a bit too, but his pedigree and experience assuage those fears. Johnathan Hankins and Jesse Williams may be the same size, but they move differently. JH has more quickness and short-term explosiveness (i.e. 3-cone drill & 20 short shuttle). Cornerbacks - Scouts may disagree, but I am just not a fan of Banks or Taylor. I don't really want Amerson in the 2nd either, but I'd prefer him over the others. -With no 3rd round pick I can live with a guy who at 1 point was lumped in with Ertz and Eifert. -Feet are pretty important for an OLmen, it wouldn't shock me to see Jones out the whole year. It's also not just his injury that scares me. -I'm more focused on getting a guy who takes up 2 blockers and makes everyones job easier, a run stuffer. I do agree that Hankins is the better player though but I would be happy with either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I'd say if anything he OVER-achieved. Dude was drafted by the White Sox to play professional baseball, beat addiction, and THEN decided to take up football seriously. In just over a year he took that motivation, earned a starting position on one of the most dominant offenses in college football, and worked his way towards a first round draft pick. Right, but it wasn't before he decided to royally freak up his professional baseball career by getting kicked out of school because of drug abuse and eligibility issues. Had his last name not been Long, I have my doubts that he would have been thought of this highly. Hard to imagine you could get much out of watching those 5 games of film at Oregon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonej Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Right, but it wasn't before he decided to royally freak up his professional baseball career by getting kicked out of school because of drug abuse and eligibility issues. Had his last name not been Long, I have my doubts that he would have been thought of this highly. Hard to imagine you could get much out of watching those 5 games of film at Oregon. This draft is filled with some 12 step program candidates and we have a couple of candidates already on the roster. His profile sounds exactly like Honey Badger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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