Alaskan Grizzly Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 I'm sure Jesus will find him a QB'ing job in the NFL. All that bullshit he does on the field better be good for something. Sorry Cracker but there are a few of us out there that still believe in the "bullshit" you refer to as something of substance. Please don't trod on it because its convenient. I'll agree that sometimes it seems a little in excess but who am I to judge on someone's faith and their choice in 'giving thanks'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Montreal in the CFL holds his rights and they even said he could come in and compete for backup Lol. Amazing that ppl still think he's great yet no one really wants him lol The world isn't black and white. People don't think he's amazing. People think he's better than McCown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 The world isn't black and white. People don't think he's amazing. People think he's better than McCown. And what makes u so convinced that after 1 bad game by cutler that tebow and all his minions won't scream for him to start. Sorry I don't have that conviction. We finally provided cutler everything he needs to succeed and he's in contract yr so he's got motivation so pardon me for not wanting to sign someone knowing that if he comes aboard everyone will be asking about it. Its a situation we don't need. If u know someone who won't have a problem being the backup who can also play the qb position then I'll listen. Today's NFL is all about passing. Something tebow simply hasn't shown the ability to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Yup, I saw him beat the Bears a few years back with the intangibles he brings, and I just posted his highlight video from his rookie season a view posts ago....You catch that one? I also watched him in a few games in college where he ripped through the NFL prospect league that is the SEC. I agree with your statement on bringing in some young talent that can be used as trade bait but for this year we dont have that, we have Josh McCown. What future gains do we have with 33 year old Josh McCown as our backup? If Trestman can continue to work on Tebows mechanics and he gets a shot due to a Cutler injury you have a much better shot at trading him vs trading Josh McCown. Add all those facts up and what do you get,NOBODY WANTS HIM AS A QB. Root for him all you want it wont change what he is. So he had a few good games, look at anybody that played in the league and you could put together a film. I think it best you just buy a team and you can then acquire him for your QB. I read an article where a CFL team would like to bring him in as a backup, there is someone that wants him. I guess I was wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Add all those facts up and what do you get,NOBODY WANTS HIM AS A QB. Root for him all you want it wont change what he is. So he had a few good games, look at anybody that played in the league and you could put together a film. I think it best you just buy a team and you can then acquire him for your QB. I read an article where a CFL team would like to bring him in as a backup, there is someone that wants him. I guess I was wrong. I also read that an indoor football team offered him a $75 per game contract to be there back up lol. And some think an arena team is his best bet because of smaller fields Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Sorry Cracker but there are a few of us out there that still believe in the "bullshit" you refer to as something of substance. Please don't trod on it because its convenient. I'll agree that sometimes it seems a little in excess but who am I to judge on someone's faith and their choice in 'giving thanks'? I'm not cranking on his faith, just the fact that he feels the need to put it on display every 5 seconds. I'm fairly convinced there's a God but I'm pretty sure he doesn't give a shit about some sorry-ass QB and/or the results of a football game. Some things are meant to be kept private and personal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 I'm not cranking on his faith, just the fact that he feels the need to put it on display every 5 seconds. I'm fairly convinced there's a God but I'm pretty sure he doesn't give a shit about some sorry-ass QB and/or the results of a football game. Some things are meant to be kept private and personal. Absolutely. Every now and then is fine but he takes it past ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Absolutely. Every now and then is fine but he takes it past ridiculous And its official no one claimed him off waivers. Shocking lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 I also read that an indoor football team offered him a $75 per game contract to be there back up lol. And some think an arena team is his best bet because of smaller fields Oh god no. Arena Football would be the WORST option of them all; even worse than the NFL. Arena football is a league predicated on timing and accuracy. The game is faster, and the shortness of the field, with less ground to cover, necessitates quarterbacks who can fit a ball through small windows and deliver it on time. That is not Tim Tebow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Yup. Just posted the link... I also read that an indoor football team offered him a $75 per game contract to be there back up lol. And some think an arena team is his best bet because of smaller fields Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 And what makes u so convinced that after 1 bad game by cutler that tebow and all his minions won't scream for him to start. Sorry I don't have that conviction. We finally provided cutler everything he needs to succeed and he's in contract yr so he's got motivation so pardon me for not wanting to sign someone knowing that if he comes aboard everyone will be asking about it. Its a situation we don't need. If u know someone who won't have a problem being the backup who can also play the qb position then I'll listen. Today's NFL is all about passing. Something tebow simply hasn't shown the ability to do Chicago and its fans are different. New York, specifically the Jets, are the "circus" that others keep referring to. The media, as others have pointed out, perpetuates it. Cutler was booed how many times last year? How about the year before? It's part of it. What happens if the part I bolded doesn't play out like we hope? IF Cutler is given everything, as you suggest, and fails to deliver? Don't be so sure it will happen. What then? Of if he suffers another concussion? Who do you want leading the team in the interim? Does McCown instill that much faith in you? How about Blanchard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixote Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 I, like many here, have absolutely no objection to a Christian athlete showing a gesture on the field after a big play. The vast majority of those who do so will point to the heavens, cross themselves, or some small gesture acknowledging their faith in God. They do so without making a big deal of it and in a way that many do not even notice anymore as it is so common. Tebow however, like most everything he does, has to put on a show doing "The Tebow" pose. The fact that this gesture of his has actually been given a tag by the press and fans and has actually been commercialized says a bunch. Tebow intentionally tries to ignite the "circus" around him. He incites the fans and press by doing things like his jogging in the middle of the winter when it was cold and snowing shirtless. The press loved it, and he loved it, because it brought him attention. He could possibly be an upgrade as a backup over what we have now, which would not be saying much. However, I think we could find a better backup off the street. Maybe a backup who would be more interested in improving as a QB under our new HC than how much publicity he can get for himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Pix, you are always the well articulated voice of reason... I, like many here, have absolutely no objection to a Christian athlete showing a gesture on the field after a big play. The vast majority of those who do so will point to the heavens, cross themselves, or some small gesture acknowledging their faith in God. They do so without making a big deal of it and in a way that many do not even notice anymore as it is so common. Tebow however, like most everything he does, has to put on a show doing "The Tebow" pose. The fact that this gesture of his has actually been given a tag by the press and fans and has actually been commercialized says a bunch. Tebow intentionally tries to ignite the "circus" around him. He incites the fans and press by doing things like his jogging in the middle of the winter when it was cold and snowing shirtless. The press loved it, and he loved it, because it brought him attention. He could possibly be an upgrade as a backup over what we have now, which would not be saying much. However, I think we could find a better backup off the street. Maybe a backup who would be more interested in improving as a QB under our new HC than how much publicity he can get for himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 He could possibly be an upgrade as a backup over what we have now, which would not be saying much. However, I think we could find a better backup off the street. Maybe a backup who would be more interested in improving as a QB under our new HC than how much publicity he can get for himself. Amen, brother. And our nerdly Canadian coach should be able to phone up someone in the great white north who can throw the damn ball! He should be able to find someone there with the talent to outdo either Tebow or McCown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted April 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Amen, brother. And our nerdly Canadian coach should be able to phone up someone in the great white north who can throw the damn ball! He should be able to find someone there with the talent to outdo either Tebow or McCown. Like Anthony Calvillo, the best QB out there who Trestman compared to Tebow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 I, like many here, have absolutely no objection to a Christian athlete showing a gesture on the field after a big play. The vast majority of those who do so will point to the heavens, cross themselves, or some small gesture acknowledging their faith in God. They do so without making a big deal of it and in a way that many do not even notice anymore as it is so common. Tebow however, like most everything he does, has to put on a show doing "The Tebow" pose. The fact that this gesture of his has actually been given a tag by the press and fans and has actually been commercialized says a bunch. Without making this into a discussion on religion, it would not be fair to nessarily judge what one person does because he or she is linked to religion as "too much". Assumptions play a lot into what you printed above. If it were a problem then the NFL would and should ask him to stop or expect him to pay a fine. Just because you may not like it doesn't mean its wrong. Excessive? Perhaps but again, not for me to say. Chad Johnson/Ochocinco probably could better say what is excessive than most. He could possibly be an upgrade as a backup over what we have now, which would not be saying much. However, I think we could find a better backup off the street. Maybe a backup who would be more interested in improving as a QB under our new HC than how much publicity he can get for himself. What's to say that Tebow doesn't want to improve? Heck what's to say he wouldn't accept a job as a TE or FB with the occasional duty as a QB, especially in emergency roles? Could the team not essentially save two roster spots in a deal like that? And just as a reminder, the team DID find a backup from "off the street" in the form of McCown. Heck they even signed a former #1 draft pick last year and we see how that worked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Like Anthony Calvillo, the best QB out there who Trestman compared to Tebow? Trestman compared calvillo to tebow. Shouldn't it be other way around since u know calvillo has at least accomplished something in his professional career. He's CFLs all time leading PASSER. That tells me that he doesn't have accuracy issues unlike someone else. Calvillo also has good release. Tebows release is still extremely long which is why he suffers a ton of sacks. I may not have faith in mccown to lead us anywhere but I don't have any confidence that tebow can take us anywhere except maybe a church Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Trestman compared calvillo to tebow. Shouldn't it be other way around since u know calvillo has at least accomplished something in his professional career. He's CFLs all time leading PASSER. That tells me that he doesn't have accuracy issues unlike someone else. Calvillo also has good release. Tebows release is still extremely long which is why he suffers a ton of sacks. I may not have faith in mccown to lead us anywhere but I don't have any confidence that tebow can take us anywhere except maybe a church With so many things to fix this offseason, sometimes you can it all done in one offseason. I am no McCown fan, but look what we bought last year and it didnt do dick. They will find someone,but it will be a professional QB not a circus act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Without making this into a discussion on religion, it would not be fair to nessarily judge what one person does because he or she is linked to religion as "too much". Assumptions play a lot into what you printed above. If it were a problem then the NFL would and should ask him to stop or expect him to pay a fine. Just because you may not like it doesn't mean its wrong. Excessive? Perhaps but again, not for me to say. Chad Johnson/Ochocinco probably could better say what is excessive than most. What's to say that Tebow doesn't want to improve? Heck what's to say he wouldn't accept a job as a TE or FB with the occasional duty as a QB, especially in emergency roles? Could the team not essentially save two roster spots in a deal like that? And just as a reminder, the team DID find a backup from "off the street" in the form of McCown. Heck they even signed a former #1 draft pick last year and we see how that worked out. Somebody(not sure who) wanted to bring him in as a potential TE and he declined. I think he can practice religion anyway he seems fit, more power to him, its the media that makes it a circus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted April 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Trestman compared calvillo to tebow. Shouldn't it be other way around since u know calvillo has at least accomplished something in his professional career. He's CFLs all time leading PASSER. That tells me that he doesn't have accuracy issues unlike someone else. Calvillo also has good release. Tebows release is still extremely long which is why he suffers a ton of sacks. I may not have faith in mccown to lead us anywhere but I don't have any confidence that tebow can take us anywhere except maybe a church Actually his delivery is the thing Trestman compared between the 2. “We have a quarterback who has a long delivery and he’s one of the greatest quarterbacks and will finish as one of the greatest quarterbacks of all-time north or south of the border so he does it with a motion very similar to what Tim Tebow used in college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Actually his delivery is the thing Trestman compared between the 2. Thats wonderful, but doesnt he play in the CFL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted May 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Thats wonderful, but doesnt he play in the CFL? Look at what I replied to again...Or look at the context of my comments (Something that I apparently don't do?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 1) Give McCown a little credit for his leadership as his GM has done: http://www.chicagobears.com/news/chalk-tal...d5-70b4159de8fa Emery praised McCown Tuesday, saying: "The thing that I've gained an appreciation for him is how deep his influence is in this building of helping other people get where they want to go. He's one of those guys. He's a glue guy. Tebow has had supporters in the locker room but he has also had equally as many detractors. See the Jets comments when he arrived a year ago. The media circus may not be entirely his fault but the fact remains it impacts other players in the locker room who do not like constant questions about Tebow. 2) Every year Tebow has worked with a QB guru to fix his mechanics and improve his accuracy. That includes starting all the way back to the spring after he was done playing college football and was getting ready for the draft including our own Marc Trestman. Trestman already knows how well he responded to his coaching and what he's capable of. 3) At this point, 3 years into his regimen to improve, Steve Young says he's still at least a couple seasons away from being serviceable as a QB but that he could improve if given the right environment. Given all the facts in his career there is no reason to think he is a capable #2 QB. There is only reason to think he might one day become one. I prefer to go after someone like a Nick Foles, whom the Eagles want to get rid of before embarking on a what everyone admits, even his proponents, must be a multi-year journey for him to become a #2. I wouldn't give up a 3rd pick for Foles though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Look at what I replied to again...Or look at the context of my comments (Something that I apparently don't do?) Oh you have a lot of content, just misguided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 1) Give McCown a little credit for his leadership as his GM has done: http://www.chicagobears.com/news/chalk-tal...d5-70b4159de8fa Emery praised McCown Tuesday, saying: "The thing that I've gained an appreciation for him is how deep his influence is in this building of helping other people get where they want to go. He's one of those guys. He's a glue guy. Tebow has had supporters in the locker room but he has also had equally as many detractors. See the Jets comments when he arrived a year ago. The media circus may not be entirely his fault but the fact remains it impacts other players in the locker room who do not like constant questions about Tebow. 2) Every year Tebow has worked with a QB guru to fix his mechanics and improve his accuracy. That includes starting all the way back to the spring after he was done playing college football and was getting ready for the draft including our own Marc Trestman. Trestman already knows how well he responded to his coaching and what he's capable of. 3) At this point, 3 years into his regimen to improve, Steve Young says he's still at least a couple seasons away from being serviceable as a QB but that he could improve if given the right environment. Given all the facts in his career there is no reason to think he is a capable #2 QB. There is only reason to think he might one day become one. I prefer to go after someone like a Nick Foles, whom the Eagles want to get rid of before embarking on a what everyone admits, even his proponents, must be a multi-year journey for him to become a #2. I wouldn't give up a 3rd pick for Foles though. You are so well spoken, some people get off on these stupid tangents and you come along as the voice of reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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