Timothy Tebow

[Connorbear]

I could care less what religion Tebow practices or how he chooses to practice it. I could care less why there is a circus that surrounds him. All if I is if Tebow came to Chicago, a 3-ring circus would follow and I want no part of it.

 

Peace

 

 

[madlithuanian]

Well said...

 

I could care less what religion Tebow practices or how he chooses to practice it. I could care less why there is a circus that surrounds him. All if I is if Tebow came to Chicago, a 3-ring circus would follow and I want no part of it.

 

Peace

 

[jason]

And what makes u so convinced that after 1 bad game by cutler that tebow and all his minions won't scream for him to start. Sorry I don't have that conviction. We finally provided cutler everything he needs to succeed and he's in contract yr so he's got motivation so pardon me for not wanting to sign someone knowing that if he comes aboard everyone will be asking about it. Its a situation we don't need. If u know someone who won't have a problem being the backup who can also play the qb position then I'll listen. Today's NFL is all about passing. Something tebow simply hasn't shown the ability to do

 

That's a completely different argument. I do think there would be clamoring for Tebow as soon as Jay had a bad game. But I would hope the Bears fans are smarter than Jets fans, and the noise would be minimal. I would also hope the Bears organization is better than the Jets organization at managing the circus.

 

What's the saying? The backup quarterback is the most popular guy in town? The only time this isn't true is when a team has a star at QB (e.g. NE, NYG, DEN) or when they have a horrible backup (e.g. CHI). If the Bears had a decent backup we'd hear the "replace Cutler" talk a lot more.

[jason]

I could care less what religion Tebow practices or how he chooses to practice it. I could care less why there is a circus that surrounds him. All if I is if Tebow came to Chicago, a 3-ring circus would follow and I want no part of it.

 

Peace

 

If there is one person on this board who I knew wanted no part of Tebow, it's you. You have been firm for years in your disdain for any player who is not an Eagle Scout. Gotta give you credit for consistency.

[Connorbear]

If there is one person on this board who I knew wanted no part of Tebow, it's you. You have been firm for years in your disdain for any player who is not an Eagle Scout. Gotta give you credit for consistency.

I have no personal issues with Tebow. He seems deep into his faith. Great for him. However, he is not a very good quarterback and is not work the circus that follows him.

 

Peace

[scs787]

That's a completely different argument. I do think there would be clamoring for Tebow as soon as Jay had a bad game. But I would hope the Bears fans are smarter than Jets fans, and the noise would be minimal. I would also hope the Bears organization is better than the Jets organization at managing the circus.

 

What's the saying? The backup quarterback is the most popular guy in town? The only time this isn't true is when a team has a star at QB (e.g. NE, NYG, DEN) or when they have a horrible backup (e.g. CHI). If the Bears had a decent backup we'd hear the "replace Cutler" talk a lot more.

 

You're exactly right, and Teddy Bruchi said just about the same thing. Said he'd love to see Tebow go to the Patriots because there would be no controversy there with him sitting behind Brady. Now I know Cutler is no Tom Brady, but I expect a good year out of Jay so that should shut up anyone clamoring for Tebow to start.

[bowlingtwig]

I hear it all the time. When cutler has bad game many fans say bench him some even say cut him. Drose gets hurt and all I hear is trade him. This happens all the time in all Chicago sports so no I don't believe for a minute that if tebow was brung in that those cries for him wouldnt be very loud. I do believe that our organization is better run than the misfit jets which is why we want no part of that citcis

[jason]

I hear it all the time. When cutler has bad game many fans say bench him some even say cut him. Drose gets hurt and all I hear is trade him. This happens all the time in all Chicago sports so no I don't believe for a minute that if tebow was brung in that those cries for him wouldnt be very loud. I do believe that our organization is better run than the misfit jets which is why we want no part of that citcis

 

So your only concern with a Tebow pickup as nothing more than a #2 is the volume of the cries for Jay Cutler's replacement? Umm, OK then.

[scs787]

I hear it all the time. When cutler has bad game many fans say bench him some even say cut him. Drose gets hurt and all I hear is trade him. This happens all the time in all Chicago sports so no I don't believe for a minute that if tebow was brung in that those cries for him wouldnt be very loud. I do believe that our organization is better run than the misfit jets which is why we want no part of that citcis

 

 

And ya know what? Those fans are idiots and shouldn't be listened to. I know Chicago is filled with meathead fans like that but the front offices of the Bears and the Bulls since you brought them up (Or really any pro team) are not stupid enough to listen to these ignorant meatheads.

 

Should we care what fans want? Nope.

 

[bowlingtwig]

So your only concern with a Tebow pickup as nothing more than a #2 is the volume of the cries for Jay Cutler's replacement? Umm, OK then.

No. Obviously you haven't been paying attention. Dude can't play qb. Plain and simple. After all these years getting help with so many different qb gurus and dudes mechanics are still beyond horrible. Can't hit broad side of barn. Outside cries of his minions can destroy a locker room. Doesnt matter if its his fault or not that fact is still there. He doesn't have ability to bring teams back from behind. Can't trust him to throw 20 times a game. I want a qb who can throw the ball. I don't want a RB playing the position. After the game several years ago even URL said he's a nice RB

[bowlingtwig]

And ya know what? Those fans are idiots and shouldn't be listened to. I know Chicago is filled with meathead fans like that but the front offices of the Bears and the Bulls since you brought them up (Or really any pro team) are not stupid enough to listen to these ignorant meatheads.

 

Should we care what fans want? Nope.

 

Exactly and this front office even said no thanks

[scs787]

Exactly and this front office even said no thanks

 

 

Until I hear quotes from Phil or Marc I won't ever believe "sources".....It probably doesn't happen but I will forever think that we have a better chance to win with Tim Tebow than we do with Josh McCown.

 

You said in your other post that he can't bring a team back from behind...You do realize that he has the best QBR of ANYONE in the final 5 min of the game right? Sure he's no where near that QBR for the first 55 but if the defense keeps it close then the final 5 min of the game becomes "Tebow Time" where he puts the offense on his shoulders and makes things happen either with his feet or yes, with his arm. He's clutch, and he wins football games.

[bowlingtwig]

Until I hear quotes from Phil or Marc I won't ever believe "sources".....It probably doesn't happen but I will forever think that we have a better chance to win with Tim Tebow than we do with Josh McCown.

 

You said in your other post that he can't bring a team back from behind...You do realize that he has the best QBR of ANYONE in the final 5 min of the game right? Sure he's no where near that QBR for the first 55 but if the defense keeps it close then the final 5 min of the game becomes "Tebow Time" where he puts the offense on his shoulders and makes things happen either with his feet or yes, with his arm. He's clutch, and he wins football games.

Then why haven't someone quickly scooped him up on the cheap if he's so good. He got so lucky in 2011. But once again u hate facts unless they support your idea. Here's a fact. He completed 8 of 30 in 2 games against the lowly chiefs that yr. But all u wanna say is he wins games. Nosir . It was that defense playing amazing the whole game and that running game. I want a qb who can come close to at least 60% completions. That's not tebow. Even the best qbs don't improve on accuracy by 10%

[bowlingtwig]

Until I hear quotes from Phil or Marc I won't ever believe "sources".....It probably doesn't happen but I will forever think that we have a better chance to win with Tim Tebow than we do with Josh McCown.

 

You said in your other post that he can't bring a team back from behind...You do realize that he has the best QBR of ANYONE in the final 5 min of the game right? Sure he's no where near that QBR for the first 55 but if the defense keeps it close then the final 5 min of the game becomes "Tebow Time" where he puts the offense on his shoulders and makes things happen either with his feet or yes, with his arm. He's clutch, and he wins football games.

So u won't believe it until u hear directly from Marc or Emery. Guess that means u will never believe it since they never talk for most part.

[Lucky Luciano]

Yup, I saw him beat the Bears a few years back with the intangibles he brings

 

hmmmm.... his intangibles. you mean like these?

 

FIRST QUARTER

1st drive 3 and out - 1 pass attempt - sacked

2nd drive 3 and out - 2 pass attempts - tebow minus 3 yds rushing - 1 short pass for 10 yds - incomplete pass - punt

3rd drive - 6 pass attempts - 1 short left for 12 yds - incomplete - delay of game - 1 pass complete deep left 23 yds - incomplete with roughing penalty on bears - incomplete - incomplete and intercepted by bears

 

SECOND QUARTER

1st drive sacked - run for 16 yds - sacked - incomplete with roughing the passer bears - run for 9 yds - incomplete - incomplete - 20 yd field goal blocked by bears

2nd drive 3 and out - 1 pass attempt - incomplete - tebow run for 5 yds then punt

3rd drive 2 pass attempts - incomplete - incomplete - spiked ball end of half

 

THIRD QUARTER

1st drive 3 and out - 2 pass attempts - incomplete - incomplete

2nd drive 3 and out - tebow run for 9 yds - tebow run for no gain

3rd drive 3 and out - 1 pass attempt - incomplete - tebow run for 6 yds

 

FOURTH QUARTER

1st drive 3 and out - no pass attempts - tebow run for 3 yds

2nd drive 4 pass attempts - tebow run for minus 1 yd - pass short left 14 yds - pass short left 9 yds - short left for 14 yds - tebow run minus 2 yds - sacked and fumbled bears recover

3rd drive 4 pass attempts - complete deep left 23 yds - incomplete - incomplete - complete 1 yd - punt

4th drive 7 pass attempts - complete short right 7 yds - complete short right 10 yds - complete middle 8 yds - complete short left 3 yds - complete deep middle 19 yds - complete short right 10 yds - complete short right 10 yds touchdown

5th drive 5 pass attempts - complete short left 9 yds - complete short left 11 yds - complete short right 19 yds - incomplete - incomplete - tebow rush no yds - field goal ties game and sends into OT

 

OT

5 pass attempts - incomplete - pass short right 2 yds - pass short right 10 yds - sacked - pass deep right 16 yds - tebow run 5 yds - tebow run 1 yd - 51 yard field goal END OF GAME

 

you want to hang your hat on that kind of qb play?? this wasn't some end of the rainbow finish from a HOF qb it was just another idiotic display of lovie smith's soft prevent (a win) defense and one of the worst offenses in the entire NFL.

 

, and I just posted his highlight video from his rookie season a view posts ago....You catch that one? I also watched him in a few games in college where he ripped through the NFL prospect league that is the SEC.

 

tell ya what… take a long look at cade mcnowns rookie season highlights. in fact take a look at mcnowns career – they are like siamese twins separated at birth. i’m sure he is available too and probably cheaper LOL.

 

cade mcnown: http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/1763/cade-mcnown

timmy tebow: http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/13200/tim-tebow

 

one final question. if anyone believes that trestman can turn this lump of qb sewage tebow into a starting quarterback why can’t he do it with mccown the guy we already HAVE on our roster?

[bowlingtwig]

Until I hear quotes from Phil or Marc I won't ever believe "sources".....It probably doesn't happen but I will forever think that we have a better chance to win with Tim Tebow than we do with Josh McCown.

 

You said in your other post that he can't bring a team back from behind...You do realize that he has the best QBR of ANYONE in the final 5 min of the game right? Sure he's no where near that QBR for the first 55 but if the defense keeps it close then the final 5 min of the game becomes "Tebow Time" where he puts the offense on his shoulders and makes things happen either with his feet or yes, with his arm. He's clutch, and he wins football games.

So your OK with someone who produces good for just 8.3% of the when the other 91.7% of the time u know will be a barrage of 3 and outs. So basically your OK with garbage. Good to know.

[jason]

hmmmm.... his intangibles. you mean like these?

 

FOURTH QUARTER

1st drive 3 and out - no pass attempts - tebow run for 3 yds

2nd drive 4 pass attempts - tebow run for minus 1 yd - pass short left 14 yds - pass short left 9 yds - short left for 14 yds - tebow run minus 2 yds - sacked and fumbled bears recover

3rd drive 4 pass attempts - complete deep left 23 yds - incomplete - incomplete - complete 1 yd - punt

4th drive 7 pass attempts - complete short right 7 yds - complete short right 10 yds - complete middle 8 yds - complete short left 3 yds - complete deep middle 19 yds - complete short right 10 yds - complete short right 10 yds touchdown

5th drive 5 pass attempts - complete short left 9 yds - complete short left 11 yds - complete short right 19 yds - incomplete - incomplete - tebow rush no yds - field goal ties game and sends into OT

 

OT

5 pass attempts - incomplete - pass short right 2 yds - pass short right 10 yds - sacked - pass deep right 16 yds - tebow run 5 yds - tebow run 1 yd - 51 yard field goal END OF GAME

 

one final question. if anyone believes that trestman can turn this lump of qb sewage tebow into a starting quarterback why can’t he do it with mccown the guy we already HAVE on our roster?

 

Regarding the bold, it's proof of two things:

1) That the Bears went into prevent and allowed short yardage throws and runs

2) That Tebow can complete short yardage throws

 

And reaffirms my belief that if Cutler goes down, the Bears could potentially work shorter passes, especially with the WCO in town, with Tebow as a QB. Adding in his obvious running and leadership talents is just gravy.

 

As for your question, my answer would be simple: You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit. You can make it out of spoiled chicken and it won't taste that good, but you have to have the ingredients. McCown doesn't have them.

[jason]

So your OK with someone who produces good for just 8.3% of the when the other 91.7% of the time u know will be a barrage of 3 and outs. So basically your OK with garbage. Good to know.

 

I know you're not replying to me, but I'm certainly not saying that. Again, you paint the world too black and white. It's short-sited at best. If he were on the Bears I'd want him to improve in the first three quarters so that he's a decent backup QB who can throw when needed, and to keep the end of game heroics exactly as they are.

[adam]

3 pages about Tim Tebow: :puke

[madlithuanian]

Slow news day...

 

Will be until camp.

 

 

3 pages about Tim Tebow: :puke

 

[Lucky Luciano]

Regarding the bold, it's proof of two things:

1) That the Bears went into prevent and allowed short yardage throws and runs

2) That Tebow can complete short yardage throws

 

ANYBODY can make short yardage throws in the NFL if you are playing against a PREVENT DEFENSE that puts little or no pressure on the qb and leaves him a wide open zone for short 5-10 yard passes!!!!!!!

 

also, you tell me after looking at those statistics in the bears game wasn't nearly EVERY throw he made a short yardage pass?? my god man we have seen this CRAP play (inaccuracy, slow release, inaccuracy, sacks. poor decisions AND inaccuracy) from nearly every qb we have fielded in 40 FREAKING YEARS and you want another one with the media baggage this guy brings????!!! bring back cade mcnown... he fits the bill perfectly.

 

And reaffirms my belief that if Cutler goes down, the Bears could potentially work shorter passes, especially with the WCO in town, with Tebow as a QB. Adding in his obvious running and leadership talents is just gravy.

 

what freaking EVER!!! this guy doesn't show up for 3 1/2 quarters and scrapes together a couple of cheap scores in a low scoring game >>>LOW SCORING GAME

 

does quinn sound familiar? cade mcnown, caleb hanie, chad hutchinson, kordell stewart, chris chandler, henry burris, shane mathews, steve stenstrom, moses moreno, rick mirer, and on and on and on?

 

yea right. the packers and ANY team that can score a normal amount of points in a game during those previous 3.5 quarters would eat us alive!! they could give him 20 in a row completed short passes and never even blink.

 

As for your question, my answer would be simple: You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit. You can make it out of spoiled chicken and it won't taste that good, but you have to have the ingredients. McCown doesn't have them.

 

ok i'm not that familiar with mccown's abilities. so tell me how much better little timmy is and all the amazing upside he has more than mccown. other than mobility is it on field EXPERIENCE, age? arm strength? smarts, interplanetary carrisma?

 

mccown: http://www.nfl.com/player/joshmccown/2505076/careerstats

 

[Pixote]

You know it is slow on the board when we spend this much time talking about Tebow,

 

[CrackerDog]

You know it is slow on the board when we spend this much time talking about Tebow,

 

Frankly this isn't Bears-related anymore since the team has already said they weren't interested. This should be relegated to a non-bears location on the board.

 

FWIW, I personally think Tebow is a sanctimonious poseur that some will defend tooth and nail because he talks their language politically or religiously or whatever. I'd prefer a good old fashioned self-serving guy like Terrell Owens over this douche any day of the week. And I'd prefer a swift kick in the balls over either!

[Stinger226]

You know it is slow on the board when we spend this much time talking about Tebow,

Look at all the responses on a stupid subject, it is just a slow time of the year after the draft.

[balta1701-A]

Frankly this isn't Bears-related anymore since the team has already said they weren't interested. This should be relegated to a non-bears location on the board.

 

FWIW, I personally think Tebow is a sanctimonious poseur that some will defend tooth and nail because he talks their language politically or religiously or whatever. I'd prefer a good old fashioned self-serving guy like Terrell Owens over this douche any day of the week. And I'd prefer a swift kick in the balls over either!

(Like 6 years ago the board decided that we should just leave all NFL related talk, Bears or not, in this forum because it's the only one most people came to use. The end result of that is several dozen posts on Tebow in the Bears forum every few months. Y'all may decide whether or not that's a sufficient sacrifice).