Mongo3451 Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Doesn't help that that guy was struggling to run a 4.8 and could be easily covered by an LB. I'd say Fendi presents much more upside than Ali. With 4.4 speed he presents a much harder matchup for most LB/CBs I know your a big ERod fan but I'm surprised your not backing this. I believe it was you who brought up how we should just go grab a player with a basketball pedigree to play TE before we got Bennett. Why has your tune changed since? If this guy can finally tap into that raw potential then I'd much rather see him primarily used as the 2nd TE and ERod at fb . If he develops, yes. But, there is a reason hes been bouncing from team to team. Until he shows he can be trusted, he can't be. I would love to see E-Rod become our Tom Rathman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Doesn't help that that guy was struggling to run a 4.8 and could be easily covered by an LB. I'd say Fendi presents much more upside than Ali. With 4.4 speed he presents a much harder matchup for most LB/CBs I know your a big ERod fan but I'm surprised your not backing this. I believe it was you who brought up how we should just go grab a player with a basketball pedigree to play TE before we got Bennett. Why has your tune changed since? If this guy can finally tap into that raw potential then I'd much rather see him primarily used as the 2nd TE and ERod at fb . Then your admitting erod was a wasted pick. We drafted him for a reason let's at least see what dude can do playing the position he was draftedfor just last yr . Why give up on him so quick? Just because some dude has good measurables? That is all it is at this point. He hasn't done anything and ppl are so quick to annoint him. I just don't get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'TD' Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 If he develops, yes. But, there is a reason hes been bouncing from team to team. Until he shows he can be trusted, he can't be. I would love to see E-Rod become our Tom Rathman. Agreed, after 3 years the Bears are his 6th team. I imagine each team saw the measurable when they signed him but not the talent on the practice field. Hope he turns out great tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Then your admitting erod was a wasted pick. We drafted him for a reason let's at least see what dude can do playing the position he was draftedfor just last yr . Why give up on him so quick? Just because some dude has good measurables? That is all it is at this point. He hasn't done anything and ppl are so quick to annoint him. I just don't get it We have seen ERod in the position he was drafted for. He was a TE in college and was drafted by the Bears to play H-back, which he did. At the moment it appears he going to continue to play that role. I'm not against giving ERod a shot at the TE position because I agree he could give the added versatility we need. I doubt he'll be worse as an inline blocker than Onobun. Regarding Onobun...I think everyone is on board with hoping he can fill a role this year but many of us (including me) need to see it in a real game, or at least let's see what he does in the preseason. For now he'll continue to be the next Frank Murphy for me. It's nice to hear we have a young player with some potential. His reality, on his 5th NFL roster in 3 years, is that he is equally close to being out of the league in Sep and he is making the roster. This is not the kind of football resume that gets me too excited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Doesn't help that that guy was struggling to run a 4.8 and could be easily covered by an LB. I'd say Fendi presents much more upside than Ali. With 4.4 speed he presents a much harder matchup for most LB/CBs I know your a big ERod fan but I'm surprised your not backing this. I believe it was you who brought up how we should just go grab a player with a basketball pedigree to play TE before we got Bennett. Why has your tune changed since? If this guy can finally tap into that raw potential then I'd much rather see him primarily used as the 2nd TE and ERod at fb . Actually, I'm not a big ERod fan. I'm a "don't waste a draft pick before actually trying to use his skill set and seeing what he has"-fan. The Bears have done far too much of this in recent years. It aggravates me. Don't freaking draft a guy unless there are plans to use him. I'm completely alright with picking up Cinnabon for the exact reasons you mentioned (i.e. basketball pedigree), but I loathe mismanagement of personnel. It's one of the main reasons why I hate how the Bears have dicked around with the OL for years, putting a G at C, a C at G, a T at G, and a scrub at T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 I don't wanna give up on ERod either but if this guy puts it all together he offers much higher upside. ERod in the H-Back/FB role might not be a bad thing if he gets utilized like Trestman has utilized FBs in the past. -Larry Centers had 69 catches as a FB -William Floyd and Tommy Vardell combined for 58 catches. -Floyd and Adam Walker combined for 58 catches as well. If Fendi has tapped into his potential I think there could be a role for both players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 I don't wanna give up on ERod either but if this guy puts it all together he offers much higher upside. ERod in the H-Back/FB role might not be a bad thing if he gets utilized like Trestman has utilized FBs in the past. -Larry Centers had 69 catches as a FB -William Floyd and Tommy Vardell combined for 58 catches. -Floyd and Adam Walker combined for 58 catches as well. If Fendi has tapped into his potential I think there could be a role for both players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Uhhh I don't get it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Uhhh I don't get it? Your whole premise is based on a big if. Especially for a guy who has limited football background and knowledge, and has bounced from team to team without significant playing time. And the saying goes, "if frogs had wings..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Your whole premise is based on a big if. Especially for a guy who has limited football background and knowledge, and has bounced from team to team without significant playing time. And the saying goes, "if frogs had wings..." Gotcha....Well if you notice, nearly all my posts include that if for a reason. So I actually agree with you that it's all based on a big if. I'm certainly not calling him a lock to even make the team. Pick analysis from nfl.com Pick Analysis: A little while ago, the Rams took blocking TE Michael Hoomanawanui from Illinois, and now they grab the vertical tight end, Fendi Onobun. He played four years of college basketball at Arizona, followed by a redshirt year to play football at Houston. He's raw, but an athletic specimen and should be an attractive target in a couple of years for Sam Bradford. It's been a couple of years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesson44 Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Here you go again. :shakehead Yes laugh all you want but you laughed at me when i said we needed bigger WRS last year too..... then we got Marshall and Jeffrey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Yes laugh all you want but you laughed at me when i said we needed bigger WRS last year too..... then we got Marshall and Jeffrey. I can't find the thread exactly, but nobody laughed at you regarding the Marshall pick or the Jeffery pick. Both were nearly unanimously cheered. People laughed because you wanted everybody on the planet over 6'6", and were adamant about signing Marshall, drafting Jeffery, and then signing another high priced free agent or two. It was exactly then, as it is now... Marshall is a no brainer. Jeffery was a good pick at the position. Weems is 99% ST, and isn't a WR. And Thomas is 0% on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesson44 Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 I can't find the thread exactly, but nobody laughed at you regarding the Marshall pick or the Jeffery pick. Both were nearly unanimously cheered. People laughed because you wanted everybody on the planet over 6'6", and were adamant about signing Marshall, drafting Jeffery, and then signing another high priced free agent or two. It was exactly then, as it is now... Marshall is a no brainer. Jeffery was a good pick at the position. Weems is 99% ST, and isn't a WR. And Thomas is 0% on the team. You keep saying Weems is not a WR then what is he? Yes he plays st but he is a WR read the BOLD below Bethune-Cookman University [edit] Weems was a stand-out wide receiver/A-back at Bethune-Cookman University, located in his hometown of Daytona Beach, Florida. He played under fellow Bethune-Cookman alumnus and former head coach, Alvin Wyatt from 2003-2007. Weems left with his name in the records numerous receiving categories throughout his four-year career at Bethune-Cookman. In his senior year, he added special teams to his portfolio, serving as the kickoff and punt return specialist for the Wildcats. Atlanta Falcons [edit] 2007 season [edit] Weems saw action in the NFL for the first time in the season finale against the Seattle Seahawks. He did not post any stats. 2008 season [edit] Weems' first career reception came with a 4-yard catch in the first quarter of the Falcons' week 12 match-up against the Carolina Panthers. Later in the same game, Weems provided a key block for a 7-yard Harry Douglas touchdown run. His first career fumble recovery came on a Minnesota Vikings muffed punt in week 16 of the 2008 season. 2009 season [edit] Eric Weems in 2009. Weems won a job with the Atlanta Falcons as a punt returner in 2009 when wide receiver Harry Douglas was placed on the injured reserved list with a season ending knee injury. Weems ended up returning both punts and kicks as the season progressed. Weems scored his first career touchdown against the Dallas Cowboys in week 7 of the 2009 season, he caught a 30 yard touchdown pass from QB Matt Ryan. Weems scored his second career touchdown against the New York Giants in week 11 of the 2009 season, he had a 4-yard touchdown reception. On the night of November 16, 2009, Weems was arrested in DeKalb County, Georgia for suspicion of driving under the influence of alcohol. Shortly afterward, Weems released a statement saying “Unfortunately, I was involved in an incident on November 17, 2009. I am embarrassed about the situation and I sincerely apologize to the entire Atlanta Falcons organization and our great fans.” No specific action was taken by the Atlanta Falcons or the NFL. Weems finished the 2009 season with 6 catches for 50 yards and 2 touchdowns. He also rushed 8 times for 53 yards, Weems returned 48 kicks for 1214 yards and 27 punts for 270 yards, Weems fumbled 3 times losing 2 of them, he also recorded 10 tackles. 2010 season [edit] Weems caught a career high of 4 catches against the Pittsburgh Steelers in the first week of the 2010 season. He had his first career start as a wide receiver against the Arizona Cardinals in week 2. Weems returned his first career kickoff return for a touchdown against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on week 13 of the season. The 102 yards was a franchise record for the Atlanta Falcons. He also returned his first career punt return for a touchdown against the Carolina Panthers on week 17 of the season. The 55 yards was a career high. Weems was selected to the 2011 Pro Bowl as a special teams member. Weems Finished the 2010 season with 6 catches for 61 yards. He returned 40 kickoffs for a 1100 yards with one touchdown. Weems returned 18 punts for 230 yards with one touchdown. Weems also recorded 16 tackles on special teams. He was the only player in the NFC to return a kick and a punt for a TD. Weems had a notable contribution for the Atlanta Falcons in the 2010-2011 NFC divisional championship game against the Green Bay Packers. Early in the second quarter, Weems fielded a kickoff two yards deep in his team's own end zone and ran virtually untouched for 102 yard TD kickoff return. The 102 yard return was the longest play in NFL postseason history. 2011 season [edit] Weems appeared in all 16 games with the Atlanta Falcons, He made 2 starts at the wide receiver position. Weems caught a career high 11 catches for a career high 90 yards. Weems returned 24 kicks for 563 yards. He also returned 32 punts for 315 Yards. Weems also recorded 12 tackles on special teams. He did not score any touchdowns. Weems was selected as a first-team alternate for the 2012 Pro bowl as a special teams player. Weems returned 4 kickoffs for an average of 20 yards per kickoff and a long of 27 yards in the NFC wild card game between the Atlanta Falcons and New York Giants. He did not record any receptions in that game. Chicago Bears [edit] 2012 season [edit] On March 14, 2012, Weems signed a three-year contract with the Chicago Bears as an unrestricted free agent. Weems played in all 16 games with one start at the wide receiver position. Weems caught 2 balls only for 27 yards. He returned 13 kickoffs for 231 yards and 1 punt for no yards. Weems fumbled once and recovered 2 fumbles during the season. He also made 8 tackles. The Chicago Bears finished the season with a record of 10-6 and did not make the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 You keep saying Weems is not a WR then what is he? Yes he plays st but he is a WR read the BOLD below Bethune-Cookman University [edit] Weems was a stand-out wide receiver/A-back at Bethune-Cookman University, located in his hometown of Daytona Beach, Florida. He played under fellow Bethune-Cookman alumnus and former head coach, Alvin Wyatt from 2003-2007. Weems left with his name in the records numerous receiving categories throughout his four-year career at Bethune-Cookman. In his senior year, he added special teams to his portfolio, serving as the kickoff and punt return specialist for the Wildcats. Atlanta Falcons [edit] 2007 season [edit] Weems saw action in the NFL for the first time in the season finale against the Seattle Seahawks. He did not post any stats. 2008 season [edit] Weems' first career reception came with a 4-yard catch in the first quarter of the Falcons' week 12 match-up against the Carolina Panthers. Later in the same game, Weems provided a key block for a 7-yard Harry Douglas touchdown run. His first career fumble recovery came on a Minnesota Vikings muffed punt in week 16 of the 2008 season. 2009 season [edit] Eric Weems in 2009. Weems won a job with the Atlanta Falcons as a punt returner in 2009 when wide receiver Harry Douglas was placed on the injured reserved list with a season ending knee injury. Weems ended up returning both punts and kicks as the season progressed. Weems scored his first career touchdown against the Dallas Cowboys in week 7 of the 2009 season, he caught a 30 yard touchdown pass from QB Matt Ryan. Weems scored his second career touchdown against the New York Giants in week 11 of the 2009 season, he had a 4-yard touchdown reception. On the night of November 16, 2009, Weems was arrested in DeKalb County, Georgia for suspicion of driving under the influence of alcohol. Shortly afterward, Weems released a statement saying “Unfortunately, I was involved in an incident on November 17, 2009. I am embarrassed about the situation and I sincerely apologize to the entire Atlanta Falcons organization and our great fans.” No specific action was taken by the Atlanta Falcons or the NFL. Weems finished the 2009 season with 6 catches for 50 yards and 2 touchdowns. He also rushed 8 times for 53 yards, Weems returned 48 kicks for 1214 yards and 27 punts for 270 yards, Weems fumbled 3 times losing 2 of them, he also recorded 10 tackles. 2010 season [edit] Weems caught a career high of 4 catches against the Pittsburgh Steelers in the first week of the 2010 season. He had his first career start as a wide receiver against the Arizona Cardinals in week 2. Weems returned his first career kickoff return for a touchdown against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on week 13 of the season. The 102 yards was a franchise record for the Atlanta Falcons. He also returned his first career punt return for a touchdown against the Carolina Panthers on week 17 of the season. The 55 yards was a career high. Weems was selected to the 2011 Pro Bowl as a special teams member. Weems Finished the 2010 season with 6 catches for 61 yards. He returned 40 kickoffs for a 1100 yards with one touchdown. Weems returned 18 punts for 230 yards with one touchdown. Weems also recorded 16 tackles on special teams. He was the only player in the NFC to return a kick and a punt for a TD. Weems had a notable contribution for the Atlanta Falcons in the 2010-2011 NFC divisional championship game against the Green Bay Packers. Early in the second quarter, Weems fielded a kickoff two yards deep in his team's own end zone and ran virtually untouched for 102 yard TD kickoff return. The 102 yard return was the longest play in NFL postseason history. 2011 season [edit] Weems appeared in all 16 games with the Atlanta Falcons, He made 2 starts at the wide receiver position. Weems caught a career high 11 catches for a career high 90 yards. Weems returned 24 kicks for 563 yards. He also returned 32 punts for 315 Yards. Weems also recorded 12 tackles on special teams. He did not score any touchdowns. Weems was selected as a first-team alternate for the 2012 Pro bowl as a special teams player. Weems returned 4 kickoffs for an average of 20 yards per kickoff and a long of 27 yards in the NFC wild card game between the Atlanta Falcons and New York Giants. He did not record any receptions in that game. Chicago Bears [edit] 2012 season [edit] On March 14, 2012, Weems signed a three-year contract with the Chicago Bears as an unrestricted free agent. Weems played in all 16 games with one start at the wide receiver position. Weems caught 2 balls only for 27 yards. He returned 13 kickoffs for 231 yards and 1 punt for no yards. Weems fumbled once and recovered 2 fumbles during the season. He also made 8 tackles. The Chicago Bears finished the season with a record of 10-6 and did not make the playoffs. Easy answer for a long post... He's a special teams player. That's his job. If all hell breaks loose, then he might get some PT at WR...but he is not a WR for the Bears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesson44 Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 Easy answer for a long post... He's a special teams player. That's his job. If all hell breaks loose, then he might get some PT at WR...but he is not a WR for the Bears. Interesting!!!! There are three reasons for your post about Weems not being a WR 1. You don't know anything about football 2. You don't want to admit when you are wrong 3. You are just trying to get your non point across Fact is .......he is a WR for the Bears that plays mostly ST. Now if you do understand football and i know you do......we only have 53 roster spots on the team and we have starters playing ST as well as 2nd and 3rd stringers playing st ....so players have to play ST as an added value to the team.....not a their main position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 You keep saying Weems is not a WR then what is he? Yes he plays st but he is a WR read the BOLD below Bethune-Cookman University [edit] Weems was a stand-out wide receiver/A-back at Bethune-Cookman University, located in his hometown of Daytona Beach, Florida. He played under fellow Bethune-Cookman alumnus and former head coach, Alvin Wyatt from 2003-2007. Weems left with his name in the records numerous receiving categories throughout his four-year career at Bethune-Cookman. In his senior year, he added special teams to his portfolio, serving as the kickoff and punt return specialist for the Wildcats. Atlanta Falcons [edit] 2007 season [edit] Weems saw action in the NFL for the first time in the season finale against the Seattle Seahawks. He did not post any stats. 2008 season [edit] Weems' first career reception came with a 4-yard catch in the first quarter of the Falcons' week 12 match-up against the Carolina Panthers. Later in the same game, Weems provided a key block for a 7-yard Harry Douglas touchdown run. His first career fumble recovery came on a Minnesota Vikings muffed punt in week 16 of the 2008 season. 2009 season [edit] Eric Weems in 2009. Weems won a job with the Atlanta Falcons as a punt returner in 2009 when wide receiver Harry Douglas was placed on the injured reserved list with a season ending knee injury. Weems ended up returning both punts and kicks as the season progressed. Weems scored his first career touchdown against the Dallas Cowboys in week 7 of the 2009 season, he caught a 30 yard touchdown pass from QB Matt Ryan. Weems scored his second career touchdown against the New York Giants in week 11 of the 2009 season, he had a 4-yard touchdown reception. On the night of November 16, 2009, Weems was arrested in DeKalb County, Georgia for suspicion of driving under the influence of alcohol. Shortly afterward, Weems released a statement saying “Unfortunately, I was involved in an incident on November 17, 2009. I am embarrassed about the situation and I sincerely apologize to the entire Atlanta Falcons organization and our great fans.” No specific action was taken by the Atlanta Falcons or the NFL. Weems finished the 2009 season with 6 catches for 50 yards and 2 touchdowns. He also rushed 8 times for 53 yards, Weems returned 48 kicks for 1214 yards and 27 punts for 270 yards, Weems fumbled 3 times losing 2 of them, he also recorded 10 tackles. 2010 season [edit] Weems caught a career high of 4 catches against the Pittsburgh Steelers in the first week of the 2010 season. He had his first career start as a wide receiver against the Arizona Cardinals in week 2. Weems returned his first career kickoff return for a touchdown against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on week 13 of the season. The 102 yards was a franchise record for the Atlanta Falcons. He also returned his first career punt return for a touchdown against the Carolina Panthers on week 17 of the season. The 55 yards was a career high. Weems was selected to the 2011 Pro Bowl as a special teams member. Weems Finished the 2010 season with 6 catches for 61 yards. He returned 40 kickoffs for a 1100 yards with one touchdown. Weems returned 18 punts for 230 yards with one touchdown. Weems also recorded 16 tackles on special teams. He was the only player in the NFC to return a kick and a punt for a TD. Weems had a notable contribution for the Atlanta Falcons in the 2010-2011 NFC divisional championship game against the Green Bay Packers. Early in the second quarter, Weems fielded a kickoff two yards deep in his team's own end zone and ran virtually untouched for 102 yard TD kickoff return. The 102 yard return was the longest play in NFL postseason history. 2011 season [edit] Weems appeared in all 16 games with the Atlanta Falcons, He made 2 starts at the wide receiver position. Weems caught a career high 11 catches for a career high 90 yards. Weems returned 24 kicks for 563 yards. He also returned 32 punts for 315 Yards. Weems also recorded 12 tackles on special teams. He did not score any touchdowns. Weems was selected as a first-team alternate for the 2012 Pro bowl as a special teams player. Weems returned 4 kickoffs for an average of 20 yards per kickoff and a long of 27 yards in the NFC wild card game between the Atlanta Falcons and New York Giants. He did not record any receptions in that game. Chicago Bears [edit] 2012 season [edit] On March 14, 2012, Weems signed a three-year contract with the Chicago Bears as an unrestricted free agent. Weems played in all 16 games with one start at the wide receiver position. Weems caught 2 balls only for 27 yards. He returned 13 kickoffs for 231 yards and 1 punt for no yards. Weems fumbled once and recovered 2 fumbles during the season. He also made 8 tackles. The Chicago Bears finished the season with a record of 10-6 and did not make the playoffs. If I'm reading this correctly, you want us to believe Weems is a WR because he caught a few passes for the Falcons, and in his first year in Chicago, he had 2 catches and fumbled one of them? Yes laugh all you want but you laughed at me when i said we needed bigger WRS last year too..... then we got Marshall and Jeffrey. YOU said that the Bears needed bigger WR's? Man, if only millions of other people didn't think the same thing! Speaking of that, those big WR's really helped the offense last year, you know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesson44 Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 If I'm reading this correctly, you want us to believe Weems is a WR because he caught a few passes for the Falcons, and in his first year in Chicago, he had 2 catches and fumbled one of them? YOU said that the Bears needed bigger WR's? Man, if only millions of other people didn't think the same thing! Speaking of that, those big WR's really helped the offense last year, you know? This thiing started because jason says that Weems is a ST player and NOT a WR but my point is what is he if not a WR that plays mostly on ST. And yes our BIG WR did help the Bears..win its the O-line that failed us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 This thiing started because jason says that Weems is a ST player and NOT a WR but my point is what is he if not a WR that plays mostly on ST. And yes our BIG WR did help the Bears..win its the O-line that failed us I think what Weems is is an insurance policy (see motivation) if Hester is unable to get back to doing what he does best, returning kicks. Weems is a very capable return man (made the Pro Bowl because of it). AND he is a decent WR. Something that most here will swear Hester is not. So in those qualities alone Weems brings more to the team than does Hester. I see him as a poor mans version of Joshua Cribbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 Interesting!!!! There are three reasons for your post about Weems not being a WR 1. You don't know anything about football 2. You don't want to admit when you are wrong 3. You are just trying to get your non point across Fact is .......he is a WR for the Bears that plays mostly ST. Now if you do understand football and i know you do......we only have 53 roster spots on the team and we have starters playing ST as well as 2nd and 3rd stringers playing st ....so players have to play ST as an added value to the team.....not a their main position Hilarious. You couldn't be more wrong. Weems is less a WR than Tebow is a QB. Get it through your thick skull: He is a ST player. Period! It's possible to be just a ST player. Many do it. Sure, in a pinch they might ask him to run a route as the 5th or 6th WR, but he makes virtually zero impact as a WR...which means he's not a WR. The 53-man roster allows for this privilege. 11 on offense, 11 on defense. That's 22. Figure in backups and that's 44. Figure in specialists (e.g. Punter, kicker, long snapper), and that's 47ish. There is room for a pure ST player...which is what Weems plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 Hilarious. You couldn't be more wrong. Weems is less a WR than Tebow is a QB. Get it through your thick skull: He is a ST player. Period! It's possible to be just a ST player. Many do it. Sure, in a pinch they might ask him to run a route as the 5th or 6th WR, but he makes virtually zero impact as a WR...which means he's not a WR. The 53-man roster allows for this privilege. 11 on offense, 11 on defense. That's 22. Figure in backups and that's 44. Figure in specialists (e.g. Punter, kicker, long snapper), and that's 47ish. There is room for a pure ST player...which is what Weems plays. He is listed on the roster and depth chart as a WR, we know he isnt any good at it but you have to be listed as something. There are several players that play only STs that are listed at some position, it is splitting hairs. Your both right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 Weems is less a WR than Tebow is a QB. I could be wrong but I believe one of them has a job in the NFL. Now I'm going over to the Rodriguez thread and request thoughts on signing Tebow as our new H-back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesson44 Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 Hilarious. You couldn't be more wrong. Weems is less a WR than Tebow is a QB. Get it through your thick skull: He is a ST player. Period! It's possible to be just a ST player. Many do it. Sure, in a pinch they might ask him to run a route as the 5th or 6th WR, but he makes virtually zero impact as a WR...which means he's not a WR. The 53-man roster allows for this privilege. 11 on offense, 11 on defense. That's 22. Figure in backups and that's 44. Figure in specialists (e.g. Punter, kicker, long snapper), and that's 47ish. There is room for a pure ST player...which is what Weems plays. Hilarious is what your response is and I quote "Sure, in a pinch they might ask him to run a route as the 5th or 6th WR if they ask him to run a route as a WR then he is a WR. So using logic Bowman plays nothing but ST...but what is he...... a CB and is listed as so, Weems plays ST but is a WR first and ST player second. Now since he has top players in front of him he might not see the field as a WR unless its in a pinch but he was a standout WR in college and got drafted as a WR by the Falcons has caught passes and scored TDS as a WR......so he is a WR So stop contradicting yourself trying to be right on this when you are clearly wrong by saying he is not a WR. The impact he makes has no bearing,.....Bowman, Walters, Costanzo, and others that play ST .......they are positional players first then ST second.....PERIOD!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 Hilarious is what your response is and I quote "Sure, in a pinch they might ask him to run a route as the 5th or 6th WR if they ask him to run a route as a WR then he is a WR. So using logic Bowman plays nothing but ST...but what is he...... a CB and is listed as so, Weems plays ST but is a WR first and ST player second. Now since he has top players in front of him he might not see the field as a WR unless its in a pinch but he was a standout WR in college and got drafted as a WR by the Falcons has caught passes and scored TDS as a WR......so he is a WR So stop contradicting yourself trying to be right on this when you are clearly wrong by saying he is not a WR. The impact he makes has no bearing,.....Bowman, Walters, Costanzo, and others that play ST .......they are positional players first then ST second.....PERIOD!!!!!! Pretty clear you're not thinking very deeply on this. If Cutler goes down, and the backup goes down, and the backup's backup goes down...is the next guy a QB? Sure, in a pinch they might have that guy throw a pass when he's lined up at QB, but is he a QB? Obvious answer is no. Same as Weems. By that same respect, I guess the late, great Walter Payton was a QB, because he threw some passes. I know all those pesky rushing yards get in the way of his clear definition as a QB, but since he threw a pass he's a QB. Right? I guess by your definition, if both pilots on a plane pass out, and one of the passengers take control of the plane, that makes them a pilot. Or maybe when a little kid gets to visit the cockpit and they grab the sticks or push a button that makes them a pilot as well. Hell, I once was in the front seat and got to "steer" for about two seconds. I'm a pilot. I'd say it's just passengers who are impersonating pilots, but if you want to see it your way, fine. Weems can call himself a WR. He can be listed on websites as a WR. But he makes next to zero impact as a WR and nearly all of his impact as a ST player. Therefore, he's a ST player. Unless, of course, you're going to hang your hat on Walter as a QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 His momma named him Clay, I'm going to call him Clay... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesson44 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Pretty clear you're not thinking very deeply on this. If Cutler goes down, and the backup goes down, and the backup's backup goes down...is the next guy a QB? Sure, in a pinch they might have that guy throw a pass when he's lined up at QB, but is he a QB? Obvious answer is no. Same as Weems. By that same respect, I guess the late, great Walter Payton was a QB, because he threw some passes. I know all those pesky rushing yards get in the way of his clear definition as a QB, but since he threw a pass he's a QB. Right? I guess by your definition, if both pilots on a plane pass out, and one of the passengers take control of the plane, that makes them a pilot. Or maybe when a little kid gets to visit the cockpit and they grab the sticks or push a button that makes them a pilot as well. Hell, I once was in the front seat and got to "steer" for about two seconds. I'm a pilot. I'd say it's just passengers who are impersonating pilots, but if you want to see it your way, fine. Weems can call himself a WR. He can be listed on websites as a WR. But he makes next to zero impact as a WR and nearly all of his impact as a ST player. Therefore, he's a ST player. Unless, of course, you're going to hang your hat on Walter as a QB. Now this post of yours just shows how far in left field you will go to make you look like you know what you are talking about....Walter Payton as a QB....really..... is that the best you can do in non support of your point? Walter was drafted as a RB played RB ,ran a little as you say and threw a few passes so what is he.... a RB.You being a pilot....HA ha ha that's funny.....but no not a plane I would get on and does not support your point. So if all the QB'S go down do you really think the Bears will let uuummmm lets see Bennett(TE) throw the ball? Hell no they will go get a QB from somewhere.....once again you have no point here. Now Peppers(DE) Izzy(DE) and Tillman(CB) all played ST does that make them ST players? No they are DE'S and CB playing ST spots. Weems is a WR playing MOSTLY ST.....the only players that are drafted as ST players are long snappers and punters/Kickers and some KR/PR guys. All other players are drafted for their position first then for the needs of the team play ST.......the quickest way to make the team if they are not starters is ST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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