Mongo3451 Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 ...Between Trestman and Lovie...? I'll start with draft choices and free agents from Emery within the respective years. How about the balls to start two rooks on the right side? There's more but I want to see your thoughts! I like what I'm seeing and hearing about the new staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connorbear Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Some great big cojones to play two rookies on the right side and he looks to have possibly hit the jackpot. Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Some great big cojones to play two rookies on the right side and he looks to have possibly hit the jackpot. Peace Yeah I was thinking that's some major balls to start 2 rooks. Then to see it possibly pay off? Unreal. Plus this rookie crop looks good so far. Though it is just per season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Yeah I was thinking that's some major balls to start 2 rooks. Then to see it possibly pay off? Unreal. Plus this rookie crop looks good so far. Though it is just per season Remember guys, its preseason. Doesn't take much guts to step out of the box in the preseason. The proof is in the pudding and the lt results. Lots to be encouraged about yesterday but it was the preseason and it was against a really terrible team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 ...Between Trestman and Lovie...? I'll start with draft choices and free agents from Emery within the respective years. How about the balls to start two rooks on the right side? There's more but I want to see your thoughts! I like what I'm seeing and hearing about the new staff. In regards to "having cajones", sure perhaps. But we should probably temper it a bit with a few more games and consider that the Chargers aren't considered a "top flight" defense (word used in Chicago Tribune article I just read). I will agree that a few of the last two years' draft picks look pretty good; namely Hardin (on ST), McClellin and Bostic. Still waiting to see Cutler actually make progress. Instead I'm seeing stagnation or even regression. That concerns me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 You mean from a coach and an extra from "Walking Dead"? Sorry, you set me up for that one... ...Between Trestman and Lovie...? I'll start with draft choices and free agents from Emery within the respective years. How about the balls to start two rooks on the right side? There's more but I want to see your thoughts! I like what I'm seeing and hearing about the new staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted August 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 You mean from a coach and an extra from "Walking Dead"? Sorry, you set me up for that one... Ha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted August 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 You mean from a coach and an extra from "Walking Dead"? Sorry, you set me up for that one... Ha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Remember guys, its preseason. Doesn't take much guts to step out of the box in the preseason. I'm going to disagree here because it takes some solid brass to put your star QB behind two rookies side-by-side against a team that has a new head coach with plenty of players, 1st stringers, etc. fighting for jobs and starting roles. These days the preseason isn't what it used to be when teams didn't blitz. On top of that we had a QB, RB, and WR learning a totally different offense so hot reads and other blitz pickups were not likely to be done right. off to the OP topic... Yes, I see the difference. I see coaches who aren't afraid to state the facts. Need to learn to play special teams and tackle players? We all hear it. Need to learn to read defenses and not throw INTs? Need to learn to catch the ball in traffic? Whatever it is this coaching staff is articulate in laying it out and that's to the media and they do it in non-degrading way. I have no reason to doubt players are not getting very specific coaching on their weaknesses. We had some of this with Lovie's staff...Marinelli, Toub, Hoke (very happy we kept him and more on that later) but there is a much quicker sense of accountability with the new coaches. Accountability only goes so far unless you have a valid replacement. What is clear is these coaches can develop those replacements. Where I've seen significant improvement: Coach Groh WR Anderson ... is he ready to replace Earl Bennett? Coach Hoke.. Peanut and Jennings hit the Pro Bowl last year for starters but behind them we have CB Frey ...anyone miss Hayden? CB Zach Bowman crazy I know but he is actually covering WRs and defending passes. Didn't see that in his first go-round with the team. Coach Kromer Plenty of threads talking about the rookies. We also have to consider Brown who seems to be developing into a solid backup player and might just be a year away from starting at LG. Coach Phair DE Wootton who is poised to make everyone forget how to spell Idonije DE McClellin who seems to handle blocks better and has definitely improved his pass rush moves. Somebody will point out that I've mentioned a couple of Lovie's guys but yes, that's the point. These coaches were targeted for retention early by the new staff and it points to what they want in their position coaches. I know these coaches can't make every player good and we can use Webb as exhibit #1. Plus it is still early but so far I do think they are better teachers overall and the probability of developing more young players has gone up significantly IMO. What we haven't seen yet is can they game plan and when caught off guard (it will happen in the NFL) can they adapt within the game to what the opponent is doing. OTOH Trestman isn't giving out any clues either so nobody has really seen our offense yet. http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post...-marshall-focus "We were on a short field, and we were limited in some of the plays we wanted to call in the first 15. We really limited ourselves," Bears coach Marc Trestman said. "We knew going in that if we had as many red zone opportunities that we had, we were gonna have to run the ball because we didn't go in with the normal number of plays necessary or that we would want to use in a preseason game. So we were left to third-down runs, and doing other things to try to split a defense without exposing or using much of our red zone offense. As I look back, you always want to be able to score touchdowns there. We tried to do it. We really didn't do it with a full complement of plays." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted August 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 I'm going to disagree here because it takes some solid brass to put your star QB behind two rookies side-by-side against a team that has a new head coach with plenty of players, 1st stringers, etc. fighting for jobs and starting roles. These days the preseason isn't what it used to be when teams didn't blitz. On top of that we had a QB, RB, and WR learning a totally different offense so hot reads and other blitz pickups were not likely to be done right. off to the OP topic... Yes, I see the difference. I see coaches who aren't afraid to state the facts. Need to learn to play special teams and tackle players? We all hear it. Need to learn to read defenses and not throw INTs? Need to learn to catch the ball in traffic? Whatever it is this coaching staff is articulate in laying it out and that's to the media and they do it in non-degrading way. I have no reason to doubt players are not getting very specific coaching on their weaknesses. We had some of this with Lovie's staff...Marinelli, Toub, Hoke (very happy we kept him and more on that later) but there is a much quicker sense of accountability with the new coaches. Accountability only goes so far unless you have a valid replacement. What is clear is these coaches can develop those replacements. Where I've seen significant improvement: Coach Groh WR Anderson ... is he ready to replace Earl Bennett? Coach Hoke.. Peanut and Jennings hit the Pro Bowl last year for starters but behind them we have CB Frey ...anyone miss Hayden? CB Zach Bowman crazy I know but he is actually covering WRs and defending passes. Didn't see that in his first go-round with the team. Coach Kromer Plenty of threads talking about the rookies. We also have to consider Brown who seems to be developing into a solid backup player and might just be a year away from starting at LG. Coach Phair DE Wootton who is poised to make everyone forget how to spell Idonije DE McClellin who seems to handle blocks better and has definitely improved his pass rush moves. Somebody will point out that I've mentioned a couple of Lovie's guys but yes, that's the point. These coaches were targeted for retention early by the new staff and it points to what they want in their position coaches. I know these coaches can't make every player good and we can use Webb as exhibit #1. Plus it is still early but so far I do think they are better teachers overall and the probability of developing more young players has gone up significantly IMO. What we haven't seen yet is can they game plan and when caught off guard (it will happen in the NFL) can they adapt within the game to what the opponent is doing. OTOH Trestman isn't giving out any clues either so nobody has really seen our offense yet. http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post...-marshall-focus "We were on a short field, and we were limited in some of the plays we wanted to call in the first 15. We really limited ourselves," Bears coach Marc Trestman said. "We knew going in that if we had as many red zone opportunities that we had, we were gonna have to run the ball because we didn't go in with the normal number of plays necessary or that we would want to use in a preseason game. So we were left to third-down runs, and doing other things to try to split a defense without exposing or using much of our red zone offense. As I look back, you always want to be able to score touchdowns there. We tried to do it. We really didn't do it with a full complement of plays." Good post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 I 2nd that Good post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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