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You hit the nail there mad. I was gonna let this all go until I saw the article I posted. Then I took pride in seeing that me and him shared the same optimism and saw the same progressions. Showed me I'm not "Retarded" like you guys insisted on making me feel. If you guys wanna take it as "GM talk" fine, but you won't convince me otherwise.

 

I've sounded like a broken record saying this but once again this all ends when people simply stop responding...It's a wisdom you tried to instill in me that seems to be a problem with others as well....

So your not convinced it'd gm talk. Tell me when was last time u heard a gm actually tell it like it really is. Actually call someone a bum or they suck. U never hear a current gm say that. Now after they leave said team and there no longer hold a position then listen yo them speak. Its completely different. The best u can hope for is half truth out of them

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So your not convinced it'd gm talk. Tell me when was last time u heard a gm actually tell it like it really is. Actually call someone a bum or they suck. U never hear a current gm say that. Now after they leave said team and there no longer hold a position then listen yo them speak. Its completely different. The best u can hope for is half truth out of them

 

Once again I'm forced to sound like a broken record...Yes, I see no reason for him to make up a grading scale like he did. I understand the concept of giving the token wish you luck farewell, but don't understand why he'd bring up a "fake" grading scale and pulling a 14 of 16 statistic out of his ass. There was no need for him to get that specific into false details.

 

Seriously guys just let it go.

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Once again I'm forced to sound like a broken record...Yes, I see no reason for him to make up a grading scale like he did. I understand the concept of giving the token wish you luck farewell, but don't understand why he'd bring up a "fake" grading scale and pulling a 14 of 16 statistic out of his ass. There was no need for him to get that specific into false details.

 

Seriously guys just let it go.

 

You take the grading part of the article but don't include the paragraph that pretty much contradicts the grading scale part. “He never gained the consistency, that sufficient level of consistency that we want out of our players, so at the end his performance wasn’t to our expectation level that we felt we needed to move forward with it.”. Players that are consistent grade out at a C, good players a B and great players are an A. Judging by this statement where do you really thing Webb graded out at? Its classic GM talk.

 

You sound like a kid who has put his fingers in his ears and is saying lalalalalalaallalala I cant hear you.

 

 

One good that has come about this thread and all Webb threads, people are fired up!!! I hope we all keep this fire going through the season, just not against each other but together!!!

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You take the grading part of the article but don't include the paragraph that pretty much contradicts the grading scale part. “He never gained the consistency, that sufficient level of consistency that we want out of our players, so at the end his performance wasn’t to our expectation level that we felt we needed to move forward with it.”. Players that are consistent grade out at a C, good players a B and great players are an A. Judging by this statement where do you really thing Webb graded out at? Its classic GM talk.

 

You sound like a kid who has put his fingers in his ears and is saying lalalalalalaallalala I cant hear you.

 

 

One good that has come about this thread and all Webb threads, people are fired up!!! I hope we all keep this fire going through the season, just not against each other but together!!!

I agree with the fire. It amazes me when 99% think its classic gm/coach speak and how that 1% can sit there and scream how we are wrong lol

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You take the grading part of the article but don't include the paragraph that pretty much contradicts the grading scale part. “He never gained the consistency, that sufficient level of consistency that we want out of our players, so at the end his performance wasn’t to our expectation level that we felt we needed to move forward with it.”. Players that are consistent grade out at a C, good players a B and great players are an A. Judging by this statement where do you really thing Webb graded out at? Its classic GM talk.

 

You sound like a kid who has put his fingers in his ears and is saying lalalalalalaallalala I cant hear you.

 

 

One good that has come about this thread and all Webb threads, people are fired up!!! I hope we all keep this fire going through the season, just not against each other but together!!!

 

seeing as all I've ever said was he was average last year I'll go with a C. I never once said he's an A or B player. If we're using grades I'd say my whole argument was calling him a C with the potential to be a C+/B- player. As Phil said you can win with that type of player.

 

I'm also fairly certain he was talking about this offseason with the quote you brought up. That simply doesn't change mine or Phils thoughts about last season and the prior 2 that he has developed from.

 

i'm really not trying to pull shit out of my ass or spinning shit to make me sound right, this is legit how I feel.

 

 

I agree with the fire. It amazes me when 99% think its classic gm/coach speak and how that 1% can sit there and scream how we are wrong lol

 

Of course you guys think it's gm talk because it allows you guys to continually shit on me....

 

The Biggs tweet sure didn't make it sound like he thought it was simply a fluff piece....I wish he would have tweeted me back with his thoughts on whether it was fluff or not.

 

 

 

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Dude. Shut. The. freak. Up. Already.

 

For real go get some therapy or something. Cuz even if you were right (and you're not) your idea that you're going to get an entire community of people to bow down to you and give you the last word and no one ever question you again is friggin' bizarre.

 

Just accept that people will think differently than you, and a lot of us believe you have acted incredibly foolishly. Learn to deal with that without trying to control everyone around you, and LET IT GO. I'm seriously ready to reach through the computer and slap you. It's pathetic.

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Dude. Shut. The. freak. Up. Already.

 

For real go get some therapy or something. Cuz even if you were right (and you're not) your idea that you're going to get an entire community of people to bow down to you and give you the last word and no one ever question you again is friggin' bizarre.

 

Just accept that people will think differently than you, and a lot of us believe you have acted incredibly foolishly. Learn to deal with that without trying to control everyone around you, and LET IT GO. I'm seriously ready to reach through the computer and slap you. It's pathetic.

Actually its not his fault, its our fault for finding his opinion stupid and responding to it. The facts are the guy got cut and will be out of the league very soon. We are trying to make sense of a ridiculous argument that he improved as a player. He's gone, SCS is to immature to back off of that and we are at fault for believing he will ever change his opinion.

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seeing as all I've ever said was he was average last year I'll go with a C. I never once said he's an A or B player. If we're using grades I'd say my whole argument was calling him a C with the potential to be a C+/B- player. As Phil said you can win with that type of player.

 

I'm also fairly certain he was talking about this offseason with the quote you brought up. That simply doesn't change mine or Phils thoughts about last season and the prior 2 that he has developed from.

 

i'm really not trying to pull shit out of my ass or spinning shit to make me sound right, this is legit how I feel.

 

 

 

 

Of course you guys think it's gm talk because it allows you guys to continually shit on me....

 

The Biggs tweet sure didn't make it sound like he thought it was simply a fluff piece....I wish he would have tweeted me back with his thoughts on whether it was fluff or not.

 

 

 

I was going to respond but I voted to end this discussion. Watch this clip this thread plays in my head when thinking of talking to this guy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Please don't say "you guys" to me. I never once called you a name. I don't do that to any posters here.

 

It's a numbers game. If there are 12 people on one side causing problems and 1 person on the other. Is it not easier to try to convince the 1 person than the 12? It doesn'tmatter who is wrong or right. It's a matter of ending it. You have an opportunity to do so, so that's why I have tried to convince you to just walk away from this paricular argument. This isn't about life or death where the rights of one are being trampled, this is a fun message board. End this issue, and this can return to being fun for you. This ends only if you want it to.

 

You hit the nail there mad. I was gonna let this all go until I saw the article I posted. Then I took pride in seeing that me and him shared the same optimism and saw the same progressions. Showed me I'm not "Retarded" like you guys insisted on making me feel. If you guys wanna take it as "GM talk" fine, but you won't convince me otherwise.

 

I've sounded like a broken record saying this but once again this all ends when people simply stop responding...It's a wisdom you tried to instill in me that seems to be a problem with others as well....

 

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Please don't say "you guys" to me. I never once called you a name. I don't do that to any posters here.

 

It's a numbers game. If there are 12 people on one side causing problems and 1 person on the other. Is it not easier to try to convince the 1 person than the 12? It doesn'tmatter who is wrong or right. It's a matter of ending it. You have an opportunity to do so, so that's why I have tried to convince you to just walk away from this paricular argument. This isn't about life or death where the rights of one are being trampled, this is a fun message board. End this issue, and this can return to being fun for you. This ends only if you want it to.

 

I apologize for lumping you into the discussion, and others who haven't as well.

 

And your right. I walked away, from the whole board actually. I then read the article I posted and just couldn't pass up the opportunity. Perhaps I should have just kept it to myself.

 

Anyway this board will never be fun to me again, not because people disagree with me but to just the overall ignorance displayed by some posters....This time last year I had already left the board for the same reasons...so I'll be off again.

 

I'm sure most of you will have more fun with your dick and fart joke humor with me gone....have fun all

 

but most importantly...Go Bears

 

 

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I apologize for lumping you into the discussion, and others who haven't as well.

 

And your right. I walked away, from the whole board actually. I then read the article I posted and just couldn't pass up the opportunity. Perhaps I should have just kept it to myself.

 

Anyway this board will never be fun to me again, not because people disagree with me but to just the overall ignorance displayed by some posters....This time last year I had already left the board for the same reasons...so I'll be off again.

 

I'm sure most of you will have more fun with your dick and fart joke humor with me gone....have fun all

 

but most importantly...Go Bears

 

 

hahaha!!!!!it just keeps getting better and better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Webb gone and now scs787!!!

 

 

really i hoped you stayed, we can disagree on one topic and agree on others! hope you find a board better suited for you!

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Sorry to see you leave.

 

But you must do what you feel is right for youself.

 

As always, BEAR DOWN!

 

:dabears

 

I apologize for lumping you into the discussion, and others who haven't as well.

 

And your right. I walked away, from the whole board actually. I then read the article I posted and just couldn't pass up the opportunity. Perhaps I should have just kept it to myself.

 

Anyway this board will never be fun to me again, not because people disagree with me but to just the overall ignorance displayed by some posters....This time last year I had already left the board for the same reasons...so I'll be off again.

 

I'm sure most of you will have more fun with your dick and fart joke humor with me gone....have fun all

 

but most importantly...Go Bears

 

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I apologize for lumping you into the discussion, and others who haven't as well.

 

And your right. I walked away, from the whole board actually. I then read the article I posted and just couldn't pass up the opportunity. Perhaps I should have just kept it to myself.

 

Anyway this board will never be fun to me again, not because people disagree with me but to just the overall ignorance displayed by some posters....This time last year I had already left the board for the same reasons...so I'll be off again.

 

I'm sure most of you will have more fun with your dick and fart joke humor with me gone....have fun all

 

but most importantly...Go Bears

Thank you, you were the first to start name calling, but with your holier than thou attitude, its ok for you but no one else can. Your quite annoying and I hope this isnt one of those, this is my last post and show up again. The problem is you picked a lousy player to wave a flag for, and suffered accordingly. There were so many that disagreed with you, you felt like a victim but alas you were the perpetrator of all the shit. You actually has some good points along the way but this just wasnt one of them.

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Watching Phil Emery's final roster press conference spin shows why Webb was given every opportunity to succeed. He was an original Bear. A draft pick. He carefully pointed out how many home grown players that the division rivals have and that he needed to have more years like this year keeping younger players, all his draft picks and some undrafted free agents. This team replaced every O-linemen on the team except Garza. That speaks volumes as to how they are approaching this season. Webbs biggest downfall was/is motivation. If being demoted LT-RT and having money taken away doesn't get your motor running nothing will. In the infamous Packer game when Cutler shoved Webb and all he did was laugh highlighted Webb's demeanor. There is know stat that measures heart. Seeing that clip vs the clip with Peyton Manning and Jeff Saturday going at it on the sidelines or even Barrett Jones and AJ McCarron at Alabama shows me he lacked the fortitude to be an edge protector.

 

 

 

 

WTBS SC if you chose to walk away thats your choice! Here's a thought you can grab your sack and say screw all of us and keep posting!

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Watching Phil Emery's final roster press conference spin shows why Webb was given every opportunity to succeed. He was an original Bear. A draft pick. He carefully pointed out how many home grown players that the division rivals have and that he needed to have more years like this year keeping younger players, all his draft picks and some undrafted free agents. This team replaced every O-linemen on the team except Garza. That speaks volumes as to how they are approaching this season. Webbs biggest downfall was/is motivation. If being demoted LT-RT and having money taken away doesn't get your motor running nothing will. In the infamous Packer game when Cutler shoved Webb and all he did was laugh highlighted Webb's demeanor. There is know stat that measures heart. Seeing that clip vs the clip with Peyton Manning and Jeff Saturday going at it on the sidelines or even Barrett Jones and AJ McCarron at Alabama shows me he lacked the fortitude to be an edge protector.

 

 

 

 

WTBS SC if you chose to walk away thats your choice! Here's a thought you can grab your sack and say screw all of us and keep posting!

The problem with SCS is he thinks he is smarter than most of us and cant let it go that he had a poor argument for a debate, he kept trying to find support for his side, after everything has passed, Emery makes a politically correct statement , so he comes back to try to convince us again of what? Absolutely nothing, a bad player is a bad player no matter how you try to spin it. Take a look back at his posts, he commended people and the board for no class, yet he showed none, he was just a whiney little bitch that lost his way, and went away to pout. Hopefully when he comes back and he will, he accepts other opinions and gets off this,ME ME ME, LOOK AT ME, crab he tried to sell. We have intelligent shoppers on this website.

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The problem with SCS is he thinks he is smarter than most of us and cant let it go that he had a poor argument for a debate, he kept trying to find support for his side, after everything has passed, Emery makes a politically correct statement , so he comes back to try to convince us again of what? Absolutely nothing, a bad player is a bad player no matter how you try to spin it. Take a look back at his posts, he commended people and the board for no class, yet he showed none, he was just a whiney little bitch that lost his way, and went away to pout. Hopefully when he comes back and he will, he accepts other opinions and gets off this,ME ME ME, LOOK AT ME, crab he tried to sell. We have intelligent shoppers on this website.

 

I think it safe to say you were one of the reasons he left. If I may be so bold. You equaled his immaturity step for step and eventually he blinked first. I know this because I've had 'discussions' with you in the past only to realize I am proverbially beating my head on a wall to try and get my point across. I never figured to hear myself think this way but you "young whippersnappers" sometimes don't know when to give up. Your post above proves my point.

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The problem with SCS is he thinks he is smarter than most of us and cant let it go that he had a poor argument for a debate, he kept trying to find support for his side, after everything has passed, Emery makes a politically correct statement , so he comes back to try to convince us again of what? Absolutely nothing, a bad player is a bad player no matter how you try to spin it. Take a look back at his posts, he commended people and the board for no class, yet he showed none, he was just a whiney little bitch that lost his way, and went away to pout. Hopefully when he comes back and he will, he accepts other opinions and gets off this,ME ME ME, LOOK AT ME, crab he tried to sell. We have intelligent shoppers on this website.

No offense, but you aren't helping the cause at all with your constant baiting.

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I think it safe to say you were one of the reasons he left. If I may be so bold. You equaled his immaturity step for step and eventually he blinked first. I know this because I've had 'discussions' with you in the past only to realize I am proverbially beating my head on a wall to try and get my point across. I never figured to hear myself think this way but you "young whippersnappers" sometimes don't know when to give up. Your post above proves my point.

Your right, he annoyed me and I gave him shit all the time, I have lowered myself to his level, it is not normal debate I do, most you guys are all cool, and we just agree to disagree.

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Your right, he annoyed me and I gave him shit all the time, I have lowered myself to his level, it is not normal debate I do, most you guys are all cool, and we just agree to disagree.

 

That's funny because I thought I was lowering myself to your level. I thought name calling was what one had to do around here to be heard... When I don't let things go I get shit and when I call people names I'm the bad guy.....'Murica

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Your right, he annoyed me and I gave him shit all the time, I have lowered myself to his level, it is not normal debate I do, most you guys are all cool, and we just agree to disagree.

 

 

Kind of hard not to. The guys bashes the board, then does the same thing he is bashing the board for. Not to mention we were debating WEBB. I really didn't have a problem with the guy until he bashed the board.

 

 

 

So on to better news, the NFL season starts today!!!! And the Beloved play on sunday! Sunday cant get here soon enough!!!

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